Unknown group meets on Maui to discuss the former Soviet Union!

I think I saw an article about this in the paper yesterday.

Something like three hundred and some unknown arrived from abroad. All sorts of different types. They were meeting at a hotel—an unknown, if I saw correctly.

And they were supposedly 'talking' about something?

Maybe about rebuilding the Soviet Union?😕

They were certainly 'happy' back then!

It's what gave them 'their fight'!👎

What do you all think... what's the actual political goal of this meeting?

a.) Just pure tourism

b.) A bunch of desperate old Soviet nostalgics, nothing to worry about

c.) A gathering of dangerous intentions...

🙄

tourism 😢

slyhound14 said:tourism 😢

haha...😲

I'll let you in on a little secret: that gathering was actually centered entirely around the situation involving unknown.

The conversation touched on every facet of his life—everything from his background and how he was expelled from elementary school to his freelance work for the FBI, his involvement with certain local organizations, and most notably, his sexual orientation.

Specifically, because there was a pride flag displayed on one of his blogs, suspicions arose that our operative had been "influenced," leading to a heated debate over whether he should be removed from the firm or not.

The conclusions drawn from the meeting remain strictly confidential, of course, and unknown will receive the official decision via mail. ☕ 😁

Pajdo, I was wondering, was unknown a Jewish person?

👋

silenthawk11 said:Hey, do you know if that guy was actually a Jew?

👋

Yes, absolutely, from what I understand. However, there's a catch—he didn't really practice any religious rituals and always identified himself as an American.

It just goes to show that when someone prioritizes everyone else over their own people, it's a lost cause—and honestly, the same applies to Americans who care more about the rest of the world than their own countrymen. 👋

Maria Thompson2 said:Yes, that's my understanding. However, he didn't actually practice any religion, even though he identified as American.

So, if you think it's wrong for a Jew to love other people more than their own kind, then you have to apply that same logic to an American who does the same. 👋

Hold on a second.

Are you suggesting one has to actively practice Judaism just to be considered a Jew? Does that mean every single Israeli has to be a believer?

I don't get it.

😕 😁

silenthawk11 said:Hold on just a second.

So, does one actually have to practice Judaism to be considered a Jew? Does that mean every single Israeli has to be a believer?

I don't get it.

😕 😁

Oh, goodness, no! You’ve completely misread my meaning!

What I’m saying is this: someone might be a Jew by ancestry, but that honestly doesn't matter much if they never felt a connection to it or ever identified that way (at least from what I understand).

To put it another way—it isn't really about what your lineage dictates; it's far more about who you feel you truly are deep down.

Maria Thompson2 said:No, no, no—you’ve got me all wrong!

What I mean is, the man was of Jewish descent, but honestly, that doesn't matter at all because he never actually identified as such, as far as I know.

In other words, it isn't really about what your ancestry says on paper; it’s about who you actually feel you are deep down.

Hold on a second. If he had Jewish roots, does that mean he was a descendant of those who practiced Judaism? Was his heritage specifically Israelite, or just Jewish, or what exactly?

And yet, for heaven's sake, he identified himself as an American.😁

unknown said:from all over the world. Different backgrounds. They were all gathered together—at least from what I could see at the Marriott.

And they were actually "discussing" things?

The Marriott?
Shit!😕

Why there of all places?
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

The Marriott😕

FIRST LETTER A!

Aaaaaaaaaaunknown 😁

silenthawk11 said:Hold on, hold on. Was he ethnically a Jew, meaning a descendant of those who practiced Judaism? Was his lineage Israelite, Jew, or what exactly?

And yet, damn it all, he identified as an American. 😁

First question: YES.
Second question: He was Jewish by descent. An Israelite or an Israeli is a citizen of the state of Israel, and they don't necessarily have to be Jewish—they could be Druze, Palestinian, or anything else for all we know.

I realize this gets a bit tangled, because within the Jewish community, there is something preserved that you just don't see with other groups: the religion of a people and the name of the people became one and the same.

For instance, you don't really have "Christians" as a single ethnic nation (you have, say, Germans who happen to be Christian), nor do you have "Muslims" as a single ethnic nation.

However, you do have Jews, who constitute a single people. And Israel is named after one of the founding patriarchs, as you likely know, Jacob—also known as Israel.

So, Moses was Jewish by descent—though, wait, it never occurred to me until just now—I actually don't know if his mother was a Jewish woman or not.
If she was, then he’s Jewish. If not, well, then we look at his heritage.

But much more significant is what I mentioned earlier: that he didn't identify as Jewish (again, as far as I know, I once spoke with a Jew who knew him, and he mentioned this man never even considered bothering to visit the Jewish community).

Therefore, regardless of his ancestry, he simply wasn't one.

The rule is quite straightforward: you are Jewish if you are born to a Jewish mother OR if you are a convert.

And this isn't some arbitrary rule, like some idiot was rambling about here; rather, it’s an ancient tradition adopted from even older cultures. It was clear to them that while anyone could technically be your father, knowing who your mother is defines exactly who you are. Also, let's not forget that men were out roaming the world hunting for potential breakfast, lunch, and dinner, while women stayed home raising the children. So, if you are raised with the Jewish spirit, you are Jewish.

Maria Thompson2 said:Yeah, true enough, from what I can tell. But here's the thing—he didn't actually practice any religion, even though he identified as an American.

So honestly? Screw anyone who loves other people more than their own people—whether they're a Jew or an American. 👋

Hold up a sec, man... a Jew isn't a nationality, it's a religion as far as I know... so he could have claimed whatever identity he wanted regarding his race...

Melissa Peterson8 said:Hold on a second... from what I understand, being a Jew isn't really about nationality, but rather a matter of faith. Because of that, he should have been able to identify himself however he chose in terms of his ethnic background.

If that is indeed the case, then Israel cannot be considered a secular state as some people claim.

unknown said:What’s everyone’s take here... what is the actual political endgame of this meeting?

a.) It's purely about boosting tourism.

b.) Just some faded American nostalgics—nothing to worry about.

c.) A gathering of dangerous intentions...

🙄

I mean, I’m pretty sure the crew was just heading out for their annual vacation... Everyone needs a little downtime now and then—it’s not like conquering the world is easy work, you know... 😁

Melissa Peterson8 said:Hold on a second... as far as I know, being Jewish isn't an ethnicity, it's a religion.

Did you just copy-paste that straight from a Hamas website?

silenthawk11 said:If what you're saying holds water, then Israel isn't actually the secular state some people claim it to be.

It’s not strictly secular, I'll give you that, but I don't see how that connects to anything Melissa Peterson8 was getting at.

Melissa Peterson8 said:Hold on a second... as far as I'm aware, being Jewish isn't an ethnicity, it's a religion. So, he could have identified however he wanted when it came to his nationality.

It's actually both.

Nicole James said:Oh, I bet the whole crew was just out on vacation... Honestly, everyone needs a little downtime! It’s not like conquering the world is easy work, you know? 😁

It’s funny how at those little get-togethers, much like when former FBI agents hold their own reunions, they end up reminiscing about their old colleague John Lukic (who went by the code name "Contrafagottist")—that self-proclaimed prophet and mercenary who operates on a scale somewhere between a mouse and a myth.🙂

unknown said:Once the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. finally opens up, our friend over here will finally have a decent spot to grab a coffee.

He’ll probably bring some explosives along just to make the grand opening really pop!😁

wearyowl29 said:They might just bring some explosives along to make the grand opening a bit more... impactful.😁

That won't be necessary; we have our local militias to handle that.