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How can I grow $40,000 in a single year?

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wearybear13 wearybear13 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#21 ·
Justin Palmer45 said:I need to find a way to grow roughly $40,000 over the course of a year.
Or perhaps some other advice would be more appropriate. Thank you!😢

Invest in equities, specifically within the tourism sector. Approximately 95% of stocks on our domestic market are trending upward, making it remarkably unwise to mismanage your capital. The returns are substantial while the risk remains negligible.
(Think Maui, Golden Beach, unknown, Kraft Heinz...). It is nearly impossible to make a mistake here.
unknown was around 40 cents previously, now it sits at $1.93, and will likely reach approximately $133
before long. You should consult www.nyse.com for further details.
nimblegardener50 nimblegardener50 Newcomer
1 message
joined Mar 2006
#22 ·
Sending out some good vibes, but I’ve gotta ask: would you actually be gutsy enough to lay out all your own screw-ups just like that?
darkpanther24 darkpanther24 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2006
#23 ·
wearybear13 said:Just dump your money into stocks, especially tourism. Like, 95% of everything on our local market is climbing right now, so it’s honestly just common sense not to miss out. The returns are huge and there's basically zero risk.
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And then the hunter caught the wolf.
Man, if it were actually that simple, everyone playing the American stock market would be living in mansions by now—but we all know how reality works.
Just because certain big players or indices like BlackRock are hitting all-time highs right now doesn't mean they won't take a massive nose dive tomorrow.
One single headline—say, some major drama during negotiations with the European Union or a sudden shift in policy regarding the expansion of the European Union (which, let's be real, is already happening)—could flip those trends upside down in an instant.
Justin Palmer45 Justin Palmer45 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2004
#24 ·
Good grief... the sheer amount of negativity here is exhausting. I have zero intention of insulting anyone, and I certainly won't be stooping to that level. Honestly, I've taken enough insults personally today to last a lifetime—I mean, what did I even do to deserve this? Please, just go back and read my very first post, then follow everything from there to the end. Then tell me if I'm really in the wrong.
darkpanther24 darkpanther24 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2006
#25 ·
Justin Palmer45 said:Man... seriously... where is all this negativity coming from? Look, I’m not trying to insult anyone—really, I’m not. I don't have any intention of being rude, but honestly, I feel like I've taken enough heat already. Like, what did I even do wrong? Just go back and read my first post, then follow everything from there to the end... seriously, just look at the thread once more!

Nobody actually took issue with your very first post.
The problem is when you link that first one to your second post (post #17) where you started talking trash about everyone else.
You were the one who kicked things off by being dismissive, even though you were supposedly looking for feedback.
If you want to make things right, the least you could do is apologize to everyone caught in the middle between post #1 and post #17—otherwise, maybe it's best to just let this topic go.🙂
Justin Palmer45 Justin Palmer45 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2004
#26 ·
darkpanther24 said:Nobody actually took issue with your initial post.
If you look at your first and second posts together (post #17), where you go off on a tangent, it becomes clear.
You were the one who started the disparagement, even though you were ostensibly asking for opinions.
The very least you could do is offer an apology to everyone caught in the crossfire between post #1 and post #17, or simply stop weighing in on this thread altogether.🙂

Well, here are the actual responses to my first post—I'm not sure if you overlooked them intentionally or...

...just give it to me!

My advice to you would be to lock that money away in some bank account. If you're using dollars just to make the math easier, that's fine, but if you still have USD, even better. Because if you honestly believe you can do anything smart with that cash in a single year while keeping it safe, forget about it.

In a single year, I can generate a minimum of $30,000 for you. I only ask for 10% of the profit for myself. I realize this sounds too good to be true, but it's the reality. We need to meet so I can show you everything in writing before you decide. It isn't risky in the slightest; there is no need to worry about losing your principal. The only question is how much the profit will be, and based on recent years, there is zero chance it falls below $30,000.

Here is some other advice for you...
.......take that money and spend it on travel, maybe some business schools or workshops abroad, learning a foreign language, drinks, clubbing, clothes, and things like that......then come back home.......it’ll be the best investment you ever made.......trust me.


My second post was specifically addressing responses LIKE those listed above... so I am genuinely confused as to why you feel personally targeted by it. To everyone who responded to me in good faith: I apologize if my tone seemed directed at you.
Since I have personally benefited from various online forums, I felt compelled to share my own experience publicly, hoping that someone inexperienced or unguided in this field might find some value in it. I consider myself part of that community, which is precisely why I drafted my first post.
I don't understand why YOU feel offended, or perhaps you are the one behind the comment
..just give it to me.
Justin Palmer45 Justin Palmer45 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2004
#27 ·
Here goes my "grand" insult to all of you:
"Expert advisors"... you lot were just talking nonsense

Take a look at how people responded:

Tupac multiplied 40k by 1.3 (130%) and came up with 52k.

This is the most polite way I can put it to you... you clearly struggle with elementary school math, let alone the complexities of stock trading...

Based on how you carry yourself, I’d wager you haven't even seen $40,000 if it was drawn out on paper.

..as the poet would say. It doesn't matter, though; I forgive everyone who decided to write such insulting replies.
It seems I am indeed the "Tupac" here, trying to defend what was clearly a naive, beginner, and perhaps "suspicious" question.
My best to you all (traditional Greetings from Chicago)
velvetmason35 velvetmason35 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2007
#28 ·
Look, I'll chime in too since things are getting personal... but honestly, I’m still standing by everything I said earlier. Maybe I should’ve phrased it a bit more politely, I guess, but let's be real—you just don't seem to have enough of a handle on this subject yet. I mean, hey, you can learn eventually, right?🙂
dustyscout53 dustyscout53 Regular
310 messages
joined Dec 2005
#29 ·
Justin Palmer45 said:Here’s my "huge" insult to you guys:
"you little advisors"... you're all just talking nonsense

So, here's how people responded:

Tupac multiplied 40k by 1.3 (130%) and ended up with 52k.

this is the nicest comment I can give you... you aren't quite smart enough for elementary school math, let alone stock trading...

based on how you talk, I'd say you haven't even seen $40,000 drawn on paper

..as the poet would say. Doesn't matter though—to everyone else who wrote those insults, I say forgive them.
Guess I'm the "Tupac" here, trying to defend my naive, beginner, maybe even "suspicious" question.
Sending love (old-school Greetings from Chicago)

If I may, I'm actually gonna side with Justin Palmer45. The guy just came on here and said if you put $40,000 into Era back in 2004, you could have made $52,000—there's nothing wrong with that. Whether you believe him or not isn't really the point. If you want, just take it as a hypothetical example of what was possible with US stocks. And if you want to argue, go ahead and show us a different stock where people lost money—though there aren't many like that.

Anyway, we've gone way off track. To get back to the main point, I'll try to answer the original question myself:

Invest in anything. Just don't blow it on a new car, a vacation to the Bahamas, or drinking, drugs, or gambling it all away. 😁
darkpanther24 darkpanther24 Member
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joined Mar 2006
#30 ·
Justin Palmer45,
you just won't admit that you went way overboard. You dismissed basically every bit of advice as total nonsense, but let's be real—not all of it was junk. Especially not the stuff highlighted in blue.

The whole "give it to me" thing was clearly just a joke, and you really shouldn't have taken it so seriously.

Suggesting a high-yield savings account or a CD at the bank is perfectly sound advice—it was explicitly stated as an option if you just wanted to keep your cash safe. Do you honestly think your money was "safe" in ERNT or any other stock?! Look, you obviously wanted to chase higher returns than what a standard bank interest rate offers, so you bought stocks and you made money. Great! Awesome! But that doesn't mean suggesting a safe savings route was some kind of delusional rambling.

And that third suggestion? Also totally fine. The guy had an idea and he was looking for a 10% cut. He reached out to meet up and walk you through his reasoning. That’s completely legitimate business, and I don't see what the problem is there. You don't have to buy into his idea, and you don't even have to meet him. But that doesn't make him a crackpot just because you didn't listen to him. In that case, you could just politely say thanks and pass, or simply ignore the post altogether.

Fourthly, whether people believed it or not—and whether they relied on their own gut or others' experiences—that wasn't a bad idea at all (especially for younger folks). Specifically the part about going to business school, hitting up workshops, or picking up a second language... the experience and knowledge gained from those things can lead to serious money later in life.

At the end of the day, everyone who replied to you after your 17th post was just reacting to your ignorant attitude and that whole "look how much I made in ERNT" ego trip—which, let's face it, was likely backed by someone else's solid advice or just pure luck. Don't get me wrong, I'm not being salty—I was also "sailing pretty smooth" during that period since it wasn't exactly rocket science with the market climbing like that. But that's no reason to rub someone's nose in your gains just because they kept their cash in a bank. My investments could have tanked, and if they did, what then? Who would've been the smart one then—me, or the guy who kept his cash under his mattress?

P.S. I didn't take offense, mostly because I didn't even bother engaging with that condescending post of yours.
darkpanther24 darkpanther24 Member
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joined Mar 2006
#31 ·
dustyscout53 said:I’m actually inclined to side with Justin Palmer45 here, if you don't mind me jumping in. Look, the guy showed up and said that if you put $40,000 into Era back in 2004, you could have walked away with $52,000—and hey, nobody's disputing those numbers. Whether you personally believe him or not isn't really the point of this discussion. If it helps, just look at it as a hypothetical scenario—like a case study of what was possible with certain blue-chip stocks on the NYSE. If you want to push back, go ahead and bring up a different stock where people actually lost money. Though, let's be real, there aren't a whole lot of those out there.

Anyway, we've drifted pretty far from the main topic. To get us back on track, I'll try to tackle the original question myself:

Just invest it. Seriously. Just don't blow it on a shiny new Ford, or fly off to a vacation in the Bahamas, or waste it all on drinking, drugs, or hitting the casino. 😁

Look, you’re totally free to take whoever's side you want. It’s awesome that the guy made some bank, I’m not hating on that—it’s just that if you're going to share that kind of info, there are much better ways to phrase it so you don't come off wrong. Besides, the first person to throw a bit of attitude in this thread was Justin Palmer45 when he started calling people naive and talking about "BS."
Other than that, I feel like if someone starts a thread—especially when they're actively asking for advice—they need to have a bit more thick skin when dealing with the "experts" chiming in. After all, they're the ones who asked for help, not the other way around.
dustyscout53 dustyscout53 Regular
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joined Dec 2005
#32 ·
darkpanther24 said:Look, you can obviously take whoever side you want. It's great that he made some serious cash—no argument there—I'm just saying there are way classier ways to announce it if you're gonna brag. Honestly, the first person to actually get nasty in this thread was even earlier when they started calling people suckers and naive.
Plus, if you're the one starting a thread—especially if you're asking for advice—you kind of gotta have thicker skin for the "experts" jumping in, right? He asked for help, not a lecture.

Man, I totally get where he's coming from personally. Dude made a killing on Apple stock and just wanted to flex a little. That's just human nature, isn't it? You hit a big win and you get hyped. Then eventually life happens and you take a hit, and suddenly you're feeling a bit defensive. 😁
darkpanther24 darkpanther24 Member
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joined Mar 2006
#33 ·
dustyscout53 said:Look, man, I totally get where he's coming from on a personal level. The guy hit it big on some massive trade—maybe some tech stocks or crypto or whatever—and he just wanted to brag about it. That’s just being human, right? It’s only natural to get a little cocky when you're riding high like that. But then, life happens, you take a hit, and suddenly you're feeling a bit humbled—or maybe just a little salty about it. 😁

It’s funny how things work out—one day you're on top of the world, and the next, you're just trying to find your footing again...🙂
Justin Palmer45 Justin Palmer45 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2004
#34 ·
Alright, alright, I think we’ve finally gotten back on the right track.
My dear adversary, you are mistaken if you think I was the one who initiated the insults—you clearly skimmed over the previous threads too quickly. TUPSTON was actually the first to take a swing at me after my initial post, followed by that "give me your money" guy. If his comments are being laughed off as mere jokes, then I’d argue my second post deserves that same level of grace.😛 To be honest, I realized pretty quickly that I was being treated like an idiot just for asking some clumsy, poorly timed questions.
Perhaps I’m not quite as clueless or unrefined as I made myself out to be in that first post. I was simply leaning into my usual persona: the bumbling, inexperienced novice. It’s actually a brilliant little tactic you can use with auto mechanics. When you walk into a shop acting like you know everything about cars, they have zero interest in giving you the full rundown of what could go wrong with an older model. But if you present yourself as a complete amateur? They’ll open up and reveal so many tiny details that, if you play your cards right, you can actually use that information to your advantage. Let’s not get bogged down in a debate about that, though; I was speaking figuratively.😍
Eventually, I’ll write a proper piece explaining the circumstances of why I decided to go with IBM back then. Not because I feel the need to defend the "stupidity" of my earlier posts, but perhaps just so it might be helpful to someone else out there.
Best regards!🙂
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2008
#35 ·
Justin Palmer45 said::
I suppose I should probably start by explaining exactly how and why I decided to go all-in on IBM back during that specific period. I'm not really looking to rehash or justify any of my previous blunders from past posts—that feels a bit redundant—but I figured this might actually be useful for someone else, if anyone is even listening.
Greetings to everyone.🙂

Come on, please, please, please...🙂 🙂 🙏
Robin Rodriguez5 Robin Rodriguez5 Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#36 ·
I’m dying to know what went through your head when you pulled the trigger on IBM. Specifically, why on earth would you bet the entire farm on a single stock? Come on, give me something here 🙂
Justin Palmer45 Justin Palmer45 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Jul 2004
#37 ·
I’m not entirely sure what you’re getting at with "banderas," but if we're talking about flags—whether it's the stars and stripes or just some random signal flying in the wind—it’s funny how much weight we put on those symbols. They represent everything from national pride to a simple warning, yet we often overlook the nuance behind them. If there’s a specific point you were trying to make, I’d love to hear it. kaže:
I find myself genuinely curious about what led you to pull the trigger on IBM at that specific moment, and I’m especially interested in the reasoning behind deciding to sink every single cent of your capital into one solitary stock. Come on, please, walk me through it. 🙂

I have a few things on my plate at the moment, but as soon as I can carve out some breathing room, I’ll sit down and write up my own firsthand account of how everything went.
Fair enough. I’ll be sure to watch my step this time—making sure I don't offend anyone, and more importantly, making sure nobody takes aim at me either.
I suppose I should probably mention that, from my perspective as an absolute... It’s honestly a bit amusing watching people stumble through this, isn't it? It feels like we're watching a complete amateur try to navigate a high-stakes situation without even reading the manual. I finally made the call to go all-in on a single stock. It was a massive move, but I decided to put everything on one horse. As for what drove that decision—and exactly which data points or schools of thought I leaned on—well, let's just say I wasn't flying blind. I spent a significant amount of time digging through various investment forums and following the deep dives shared by those communities, which played a huge role in shaping my conviction. Well-intentioned. Staying within the established parameters of this discussion... I'll provide my response.
Tyler Wells7 Tyler Wells7 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2006
#38 ·
If I actually sat down and told you guys my story, I’m pretty sure you’d all just tear me apart, because I guess in this country, it’s somehow considered a crime to actually make a decent living. My situation is still playing out on the NYSE, where I manage to pull in about $55,000 a year, but hey, feel free to keep insulting me instead of actually doing something productive with your lives.
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2008
#39 ·
zivot_u_zivo said:If I actually laid out my full story, I suspect I’d get just as much grief from you all, because apparently, in this country, even making an honest living is considered some kind of offense. In my case, I’m still pulling in about $55,000 a year through my trades on the NYSE. So, by all means, feel free to keep insulting me instead of actually doing something productive with your lives.

So, you've finally discovered water is wet, have you?🙏
darkpanther24 darkpanther24 Member
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joined Mar 2006
#40 ·
zivot_u_zivo said:If I actually told you guys my story, you’d probably tear me apart just the same—because in this country, apparently even making an honest living is considered a crime. My situation is still playing out on the NYSE, where I’m pulling in about $55,000 a year. So go ahead, keep insulting people instead of actually doing something productive.

🙂

Look, I’m not sitting here feeling happy or miserable because you're clearing $55k a year off the stock market, and I don't care one bit that Justin Palmer45 managed a 130% return over a year or so. Honestly, if you both woke up tomorrow and lost everything, I wouldn't be happy or sad about it either.
Your wins—and your losses—don't move the needle for me. It doesn't affect my wallet, so why should I care?
I mean, how much energy would someone have to waste to be jealous of everyone making money in the capital markets? Especially lately, with this massive bull market we've been seeing in the States, there are plenty of people doing just fine.
Nobody was coming for Justin Palmer45 until he dropped that condescending post acting like he's some kind of genius. That’s when things got heated—people were reacting to the ego, not the profit.
At the end of the day, nobody is forcing anyone to do anything here, including you. If you want to enlighten us with your "success story," that's totally your call. This is a free country.

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