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Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

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dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
238 messages
joined Nov 2015
#401 ·
gentlestag15 said:They haven't picked up my trash for the second Friday in a row. Looks like they slashed the service from twice a week down to once, though who knows what the deal is.
My bin has been sitting out on the curb since Friday.

I can't remember a single time in the fifteen years I've been managing the bills, bins, and all that nonsense at home where they missed the mixed waste pickup.

Why are you guys even complaining?
In Savannah, they only pick it up once every two weeks, and from what I can tell, we're paying more than you guys are.

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gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#402 ·
dustymarlin10 said:Why are you guys even complaining?
In Savannah, they only pick it up once every two weeks, and from what I can tell, we're paying more than you guys are.

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Over in Ethiopia, they never bother with trash pickup anyway, so who really cares about this stuff🤣
I get a monthly bill from $93New York City
that covers sewage, sanitation fees, and trash collection all lumped together—pretty sure half of it is just for garbage.
Frank Martin13 Frank Martin13 Member
23 messages
joined Jun 2024
#403 ·
...the goal was achieved—a little "bone" tossed to the masses, the "old school" way of doing things. Meanwhile, most people here are busy writing long-winded essays about minor details while the "full assembly" is seated. There are still far too many "drummers" out there with their pots and pans who need to be integrated somewhere 🤦, and just as many associations that need to be "taken care of." This isn't some small-time operation anymore; we’re talking about a scale comparable to a platform on an 🤦 aircraft carrier. It’s all much more complicated than just saying "love you" to 000,000,000 🤦 people—think about how many new preschools or other essential city services that money could actually cover... I don't want to cause a misunderstanding here 🤔, but look, utility services are obviously important, but it’s just... well, it’s a broken system when things that should be "normal" and "routine" require such massive debate 🤦. Whenever you criticize the current administration (which right now is Eric Adams and his crew of activists), it really gets under my skin how they constantly try to justify themselves by pointing at what happened in the past. The past doesn't matter; the present and the future are what count 👍. So, why should "King Thomas or Zane" be blamed for the current state of affairs in New York City and the USA 🤦? It’s a strange phenomenon that nobody from this "group" seems to critique the era of the dictators, damn it 🤔. In fact, back in those days, the mountain known as "Jakuševac" first started growing...

...oh, and I almost forgot—if anyone here happens to have a "connection" within Eric Adams' and his crew's circle, please do me a favor and suggest this: when that day finally comes that they actually start building the new football stadium on the site of the old one, starting from the foundations, they MUST design the entire stadium to be shifted as FAR AS POSSIBLE from Maximilian Street. We’re talking a minimum of 30 meters or more toward the South. There is plenty of space behind it, and the current location right next to Maximilian is a total nightmare for traffic, especially when you get 40,000 to 50,000 people converging on the area all at once 🤦
Rachel Barrett8 Rachel Barrett8 Active Member
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joined Apr 2023
#404 ·
dustymarlin10 said:Why are you guys even complaining?
In Savannah, they only pick it up once every two weeks, and from what I can tell, we're paying more than you guys are.

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It’s just part of the social policy aimed at those struggling residents in New York City.
velvetskipper11 velvetskipper11 Member
14 messages
joined Sep 2024
#405 ·
Harold Phillips54 said:Oh, please, stop talking. You NYC folks don't have to deal with this. I actually got a threatening phone call from my local Waste Management rep the other day. He basically told me if I didn't put my mixed waste bin out for the next collection, I’d be fined. Apparently, their records show I haven't put it out in two months, even though I'm supposed to do it at least once every couple of months.
And I’m such a stickler—I sort everything perfectly. I even peel the paper labels off the bags; if I can't peel them, I just cut them off with scissors. I separate the paper part of bread bags from the plastic film, cut up packaging made of different materials, sort it all, and crush everything down to save space... everything else goes into recycling, so there’s hardly anything left for the mixed waste. And now they want to fine me? Fine. So, I just stuffed a bunch of random stuff in there to bulk it up, threw it in the bin, and now I'm just waiting. If they want to play that game, let them.

Usually, they’re actually pretty good—on time, every time, and most often right on the dot.


It might feel pointless sometimes, but it isn't. Change starts with the individual. We don't know each other, but your post really hits home for me, and I'm proud of people like you.
Personally, I think you should send them an email, even if they never bother to read it. If enough people reach out, maybe they'll eventually realize that in this city and this country, there are conscientious citizens who actually care—people who exist outside of this insane bureaucracy that demands trash.

Then there's the whole zero-waste movement where people live producing absolutely no waste. You wouldn't last a week in New York City trying that.
I'm going to send them an email myself, just to let them know such a thing exists and to ask what they plan to do about those "lunatics."
vividbear12 vividbear12 Member
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joined Oct 2012
#406 ·
Frank Martin13 said:As the saying goes, "you missed the whole game," but 🤔 it's sweltering today and I really don't feel like typing any more, so just go back and read my previous post to find your answers.👍

You're just throwing everything at the wall at this point... one little issue pops up and suddenly you're bringing up politics, social issues, foreign dictators, whatever...
I mean, probably 90% of our leaders, from local mayors to heads of state, haven't actually done anything anyway...

Since you seem to be struggling with the heat, I won't push you to explain those random terms that have nothing to do with the topic....
Gregory Hall66 Gregory Hall66 Active Member
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joined May 2024
#407 ·
Slowly but surely 😁 :

NEW YORK CITY REPUBLICAN PARTY AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY UNITE: Tired of waiting, they demand this from Eric Adams!
Driven by the public interest, media scrutiny, and the urgent necessity to overhaul Alphabet Inc. along with its various subsidiaries and commercial entities—where New York City or Alphabet Inc. holds significant stakes—there is a pressing call for accountability. To ensure responsible, transparent, and efficient management of the municipal administration, its commercial holdings, and its vast assets, we believe it is imperative that data regarding the salaries and employment benefits of the CEO and board members of Alphabet Inc., as well as the heads of its subsidiaries and directors of all companies where New York City or Alphabet Inc. maintains business interests, be made fully accessible to the public...

Some within the Democratic Party would prefer a slower pace, while others push for more speed. Perhaps Merrick Garland feels he hasn't quite secured enough cronies just yet, or maybe his relationship with Robert E. Lee isn't quite as stable as he'd like.

A rift has emerged at the law firm of Leon Jaworski, splitting the office between the first and fifth floors: Merrick Garland is seemingly attempting to prevent Robert E. Lee and his associates from severing ties with Eric Adams.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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joined Jul 2016
#408 ·
velvetskipper11 said:It might feel pointless sometimes, but it isn't. Change starts with the individual. We don't know each other, but your post really hits home for me, and I'm proud of people like you.
Personally, I think you should send them an email, even if they never bother to read it. If enough people reach out, maybe they'll eventually realize that in this city and this country, there are conscientious citizens who actually care—people who exist outside of this insane bureaucracy that demands trash.

Then there's the whole zero-waste movement where people live producing absolutely no waste. You wouldn't last a week in New York City trying that.
I'm going to send them an email myself, just to let them know such a thing exists and to ask what they plan to do about those "lunatics."

And for what purpose? Even if they roll out some shiny new system, you’ll still be the one stuck picking up the tab.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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joined May 2024
#409 ·
Sam Wright21 said:And for what purpose? Even if they roll out some shiny new system, you’ll still be the one stuck picking up the tab.

The single folks living in studio apartments who barely produce any trash are going to end up paying way more than double what they used to.
That flat fee is basically identical to—or maybe even higher than—what they were shelling out for trash collection originally.
Plus, they’ve got to deal with buying those mandatory trash bags on top of everything else.
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active Member
136 messages
joined Jun 2024
#410 ·
driftingtinker said:The bins were just sitting there, totally overflowing because the trucks couldn't get through that massive line of vehicles backed up in front of the blocked landfill. And honestly, even back during Delatorov's time, they didn't exactly have a surplus of extra trucks lying around. I mean, I still remember them spraying everything down with chemicals just because all that built-up methane from sitting out in the sun for days could've basically turned the whole place into a ticking time bomb.

Why should I care about the logistics? As a customer, all I care about is that the trash actually gets picked up on time. Whatever nonsense they did with the truck schedules wasn't my problem.

But this current mess is mental. I've got maggots crawling in my bin for ten damn days because nobody shows up. Paper pickup is skipped, recycling is skipped, everything is skipped.

I’m out here hauling heavy bins up and down the street like an idiot every other day. Back when the Whistleblower was in charge—despite all the shady deals and graft—I never felt this headache.

So now I’m supposed to celebrate all this:

- NYC "saving money" even though nothing is getting cheaper for me
- cutting parent leave benefits while my taxes stay exactly the same
- less frequent grass cutting while everyone still pays full price for utilities
- less frequent trash pickup despite my bills not dropping one cent
- fewer subway trains even though the fare isn't any lower

Can someone please explain why we were so hyped about changing the administration? Because as a citizen, I’m stuck with worse, slower, more inefficient service for the same—or higher—price.

Dammit, just bring back the Whistleblowers and let them steal... at least the service was better back then. 🤷
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#411 ·
For the hundredth time now—this flat tax system is legally mandated, and $15 falls right among the lower tiers here in the USA.

Naturally, someone living in a cramped 250-square-foot studio, especially if they actually bother to separate all their waste (though I suspect very few people truly do), will end up paying more.

P.S. Of course, if they don't bother with sorting at all, the bill will be even higher.


I’ll be paying less since my place is about 650 square feet. Waste production is an inevitability of modern life, and there really isn't a more equitable way to handle billing than basing it on actual volume.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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joined May 2024
#412 ·
Sam Wright21 said:For the hundredth time now—this flat tax system is legally mandated, and $15 falls right among the lower tiers here in the USA.

Naturally, someone living in a cramped 250-square-foot studio, especially if they actually bother to separate all their waste (though I suspect very few people truly do), will end up paying more.

P.S. Of course, if they don't bother with sorting at all, the bill will be even higher.


I’ll be paying less since my place is about 650 square feet. Waste production is an inevitability of modern life, and there really isn't a more equitable way to handle billing than basing it on actual volume.

My wife has a 230 sq ft apartment and pays trash fees based on $8.25
but starting now, her tenant will be stuck with that minimum flat fee $15 plus having to buy specific bags, which basically means a price hike of over 100% disguised as a "low" flat fee.
Since when was this $15 flat fee legally mandatory?
Stop trying to spin this, Sam Wright21.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#413 ·
He certainly benefits from it, I’ll give you that, but if you ask me, it’s quite the opposite; I’m looking at a much lighter wallet. Honestly, have you noticed how every single price tag seems to have drifted toward the stratosphere lately?

By the way, the law has been updated, so they're stuck having to get everything aligned with the new regulations.
Gregory Hall66 Gregory Hall66 Active Member
70 messages
joined May 2024
#414 ·
I suspect you are perhaps overextending yourself by placing so much faith in these "emerging models"

The reality remains that neither the production lines for these bags have been established, nor do any viable distribution channels exist. By the time this concept actually gains momentum, a Swiss person will have likely developed three entirely different iterations 😁

And we shall find ourselves, once again, forced to begin the entire process from scratch.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#415 ·
Sam Wright21 said:He certainly benefits from it, I’ll give you that, but if you ask me, it’s quite the opposite; I’m looking at a much lighter wallet. Honestly, have you noticed how every single price tag seems to have drifted toward the stratosphere lately?

By the way, the law has been updated, so they're stuck having to get everything aligned with the new regulations.

https://www.congress.gov/documents/example-link
Here's the latest version of the law. I can't seem to find where they mention the minimum flat tax of $15—actually, it doesn't even mention it at all.
Maybe you've got a better eye for this stuff than I do.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#416 ·
Hopefully, we’ll see some movement on this in the near future... It's high time Eric Adams stood up at City Hall and explained why this wasn't completed on schedule, and more importantly, when we can actually expect it to be finished.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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joined Jul 2016
#417 ·
gentlestag15 said:https://www.congress.gov/documents/example-link
Here's the latest version of the law. I can't seem to find where they mention the minimum flat tax of $15—actually, it doesn't even mention it at all.
Maybe you've got a better eye for this stuff than I do.

Article 76.

Quincy:
Mandatory Minimum Public Service

Article 76.

(1) The mandatory minimum public service refers to the amount secured to ensure economic sustainability, safety, regularity, and quality of service delivery, allowing the municipal waste collection system to fulfill its intended purpose.

(2) The price of the mandatory minimum public service constitutes part of the overall public service fee.

(3) Within the service area, the following applies:

1. a uniform price for the mandatory minimum public service for users categorized as households, and

2. a uniform price for the mandatory minimum public service for users categorized as non-households.

(4) If a user at the same billing location qualifies as both a household and a non-household, they are only obligated to pay the mandatory minimum public service price calculated for the non-household category.
Each individual service provider determines their own rate for this mandatory minimum public service—essentially, the flat fee.

There is already a dedicated thread regarding waste collection in New York City; this conversation really belongs over there.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#418 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Article 76.

Quincy:
Mandatory Minimum Public Service

Article 76.

(1) The mandatory minimum public service refers to the amount secured to ensure economic sustainability, safety, regularity, and quality of service delivery, allowing the municipal waste collection system to fulfill its intended purpose.

(2) The price of the mandatory minimum public service constitutes part of the overall public service fee.

(3) Within the service area, the following applies:

1. a uniform price for the mandatory minimum public service for users categorized as households, and

2. a uniform price for the mandatory minimum public service for users categorized as non-households.

(4) If a user at the same billing location qualifies as both a household and a non-household, they are only obligated to pay the mandatory minimum public service price calculated for the non-household category.
Each individual service provider determines their own rate for this mandatory minimum public service—essentially, the flat fee.

There is already a dedicated thread regarding waste collection in New York City; this conversation really belongs over there.

So the flat fee amount isn't actually set by law like you claimed,
it's just whatever they feel like charging.
Basically, if a tenant's landlord goes on vacation for three months, they’ve been paying $8.25 for absolutely nothing up until now, and from here on out, it'll cost them $15 every month
even if they haven't tossed a single trash bag into the bin.
Anyway, since we've settled the whole "pay for what you actually throw away" thing, I'm done with that topic.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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joined Jul 2016
#419 ·
I wasn't suggesting that any specific dollar amount is mandatory, but rather that the flat fee itself is an obligatory charge.
A tenant staying for only three months isn't going to be out there buying trash bags; they’re just going to settle the flat fee. Though, if they want to get technical, they could probably put the service on hold due to vacancy—they should probably give the Department of Sanitation a call to iron out those specifics.

Besides, don't you see the sheer absurdity of it all? He was essentially paying $8.25 despite producing absolutely no waste, because at the end of the day, it's people who generate trash, not square footage.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#420 ·
Sam Wright21 said:I wasn't suggesting that any specific dollar amount is mandatory, but rather that the flat fee itself is an obligatory charge.
A tenant staying for only three months isn't going to be out there buying trash bags; they’re just going to settle the flat fee. Though, if they want to get technical, they could probably put the service on hold due to vacancy—they should probably give the Department of Sanitation a call to iron out those specifics.

Besides, don't you see the sheer absurdity of it all? He was essentially paying $8.25 despite producing absolutely no waste, because at the end of the day, it's people who generate trash, not square footage.

This is basically a tax on the little guy. They're the ones with the smallest apartments.
Anyone living in a studio or a small one-bedroom under 500 sq ft is going to end up overpaying for trash by default because of this flat fee, even if they never buy a single bag.
They'll end up paying almost the same as the wealthy folks—take someone like Tom Hanks with his massive estate, for example. He used to be shelling out over $333 but now he'll just pay $15 plus the cost of bags.
If the whole goal here is to make sure the rich pay less while the poor pay more, then I guess Tom's plan is working perfectly.

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