Would you get your kids vaccinated against COVID?

I’m currently watching Diana Meyer discuss childhood vaccinations on Studio 4 over at AT&T, and honestly, it is absolutely appalling. She sounds completely hypnotized, just mindlessly parroting the same old COVID talking points. The host isn't much better either; she keeps baking her own opinions right into the questions, basically setting traps just to get Diana Meyer to validate them. It feels like such a cheap, dishonest campaign. They're even trying to justify vaccinating kids by using data from the 70+ demographic. What a blatant manipulation. Disgusting.

swiftotter46 said:Wait, I’m lost now too... there’s no way the gap is this massive.

How does this even work?

Looking at the data from June 10, 2021:

960 million people received a shot, but only 490 million are fully vaccinated.

That adds up to 1.45 billion doses administered.

So how on earth did they use 2.3 billion doses?

It's impossible that nearly a billion people died, so these numbers clearly don't add up.😕

Look, it works like this: 😁

It seems some nations (China, for instance) have been reporting nothing more than the total number of doses administered to the statistics, rather than clarifying how many actual people were vaccinated or providing a breakdown of those who received partial versus full vaccinations.

So, for example, when China reports 845 million doses, those figures get lumped into the global tally of 2.3 billion doses used, yet because the data aggregators tracking individual vaccination counts don't have specific numbers to credit them with, they effectively show up as zero in the count for people vaccinated... which is where this massive discrepancy begins to emerge.

But if you take those 845 million Chinese doses and look at them from another angle—assuming there’s a mix of single and double doses in that pile—you wouldn't even say they've managed to reach more than 40% of their population just yet.
Which is actually quite surprising when you consider this is a country that serves as a massive vaccine manufacturer, and one that is famously known for being able to pack an entire apartment complex's worth of people through a single doorway without breaking a sweat, or any other similar feats of crowded logistics... it really does leave one wondering...

Megan Green72 said:Look, I get it, but clearly people don't grasp how long-term monitoring works once you actually get approval—that stuff happens during Phase 4.

Developing a vaccine and testing one are two totally different beasts. Yeah, the development side dragged on way longer for a ton of reasons, but that wasn't because of the testing phase itself.

Also, you have to realize that the number of participants in Phase 3 for typical drugs and vaccines used to be about ten times smaller than what we're seeing with these new shots.

Regardless of whether you're talking about a medication or just picking up a new habit, you can only truly spot the consequences or side effects as time passes.

Honestly, smartphones are doing more damage to kids than COVID-19 ever did.
Kids are struggling with motor skills, focus, speech, and developing some pretty intense addictions.

..Following an organized vaccination drive at the Downtown clinic this past Sunday, the rollout for adolescents aged 12 to 18 continued. Roughly 10 kids were vaccinated during the session...

There wasn't exactly a stampede...😁

The previous ones weren't bad either. I wasn't expecting much to begin with, but like someone else pointed out above, they probably just padded the numbers at the County level.

Whoever wants to go toe-to-toe with lead...
We aren't playing around.

Germany has officially decided that children should only be vaccinated if they fall into a specific high-risk category for COVID:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2021-06-10/

HoD said:This is actually a great chance for all the altruists on this sub to step up. When everyone was busy trying to shut down work and restrict movement, they certainly weren't quiet about it. Now, why not take the kids by the hand and head straight to the nearest stadium or whatever? I'm sure you'll be feeling incredibly grateful for the government and the taxpayer-funded budget.

Most of these folks didn't even get vaccinated themselves, let alone their kids.
But I bet they'll be the first ones making noise about vaccinating other people's children.🐔

"Good luck" with that—even those who are vaccinated can still carry the virus. Honestly, it seems like the people shouting about how dangerous kids are or how schools are breeding grounds for infection really just wanted an excuse to work from home, using "little bioterrorists" as their perfect cover story.🥳

So, 85% of you are Flat Earthers, huh? Honestly, it’s embarrassing—how can you just ignore science and refuse to step up for the greater good? I'm genuinely pissed. This whole thing feels way too much like that forum debate we had back in January, and seeing how things always blow up... I really want to know which side everyone's going to jump to when this exact same issue gets shoved down your throats by some stinky news outlets in a few months.

Dennis Hall41 said:So, 85% of you are Flat Earthers, huh? Honestly, it’s embarrassing—how can you just ignore science and refuse to step up for the greater good? I'm genuinely pissed. This whole thing feels way too much like that forum debate we had back in January, and seeing how things always blow up... I really want to know which side everyone's going to jump to when this exact same issue gets shoved down your throats by some stinky news outlets in a few months.

Before you go tossing around labels like "Flat Earther" at everyone—which is funny, because somehow you don't get banned for that, but if I used the actual term, I'd probably be kicked off the forum in a heartbeat—you might want to actually look at what the experts in Germany are saying:

STIKO stated in their official guidance that they only recommend vaccination for teenagers who have underlying medical issues that increase their risk of developing a severe case of coronavirus.

They clarified that they aren't currently advising the vaccine for healthy 12-to-17-year-olds, though they did mention that doctors still have the discretion to administer the shot if the patient is willing to accept the risks involved.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2021-06-10/

AngryNomad said:Yeah, I don't have an issue with vaccinating my own kids. If there end up being consequences, I can always just make another one.

Omni-Man

Lately, I’ve been doing a lot of soul-searching regarding my purpose and what I owe to the community. When I look back at my contribution to this country, it feels pretty thin—just paying taxes, a year of service in the Army, a couple of speeding tickets, and the occasional local cleanup or charity drive. It’s made me think about the deeper themes found in the Bible, specifically the Old Testament, and the story of Abraham, who was willing to offer his most precious possession, his firstborn son, to God. It really puts things into perspective. If he could do that, what am I supposed to do to show my devotion to my country, the Republican Party, the Holy Season, our underpaid essential workers, and Vilije Beroš? Honestly, all I have left to offer is the strength of my children. That’s why I cast my vote in favor of the vaccination (admins, feel free to double-check my entry!).
Bring it on, Vili. Three innocent little shoulders are waiting for you!

Matthew Jackson2 said:Before you go tossing around labels like "Flat Earther" at everyone—which is funny, because somehow you don't get banned for that, but if I used the actual term, I'd probably be kicked off the forum in a heartbeat—you might want to actually look at what the experts in Germany are saying:

STIKO stated in their official guidance that they only recommend vaccination for teenagers who have underlying medical issues that increase their risk of developing a severe case of coronavirus.

They clarified that they aren't currently advising the vaccine for healthy 12-to-17-year-olds, though they did mention that doctors still have the discretion to administer the shot if the patient is willing to accept the risks involved.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2021-06-10/

You clearly haven't read my work, so I get why you missed the irony—the "general thing" phrase was the only real giveaway.

I was pointing somewhere else entirely. I know this poll number isn't going to match what we actually see playing out soon—just like how that supposedly massive group of COVID skeptics basically evaporated like mist in the sun. These press studies serving whatever power structure they want either make me die laughing or serve as toilet paper after a long trip to the bathroom, depending on how they're served up—especially when they're presented as "the truth" that'll be totally debunked by opposite arguments in a week. Just look at how fast the mask narrative shifted. Me, and people like me, have longer memories than just the last few weeks.

It seems the kids have arrived on the forum to start fighting for their rights.

In truth, it’s a bit unfair to them, since they are at least the ones you might actually be able to teach something to.

Yesterday’s coverage on FOX was honestly a total joke, watching them film those kids over in Cleveland talking about how they "believe in science," including this 12-year-old girl named Mara who claims she's "finally free."

bluerider63 said:Yesterday’s coverage on FOX was honestly a total joke, watching them film those kids over in Cleveland talking about how they "believe in science," including this 12-year-old girl named Mara who claims she's "finally free."

What a lovely little piece of journalism. I truly hope children from all the other states find the courage to follow in little Mara's footsteps.

Alex Morales47 said:What a lovely little piece of journalism. I truly hope children from all the other states find the courage to follow in little Mara's footsteps.

Are you seriously suggesting that American news outlets possess more medical expertise than the scientists over in Germany? Because, last I checked, those German experts were quite clear: unless a child has specific underlying conditions that spike their risk for severe COVID-19, vaccination isn't even being recommended.

slyfox43 said:It seems the kids have arrived on the forum to start fighting for their rights.

In truth, it’s a bit unfair to them, since they are at least the ones you might actually be able to teach something to.

Exactly. That is how they taught little Mara what she was supposed to recite in front of the cameras.
Using children to push a divisive agenda is beneath contempt. Even for the campaign headquarters.

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mellowskipper said:Exactly. That is how they taught little Mara what she was supposed to recite in front of the cameras.
Using children to push a divisive agenda is beneath contempt. Even for the campaign headquarters.

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History shows us time and again how totalitarian regimes weaponize children to sell their system, and honestly, it hasn't changed much today.

little Mara claims she's finally free 🤦

It’s just pathetic how they have no shame manipulating kids like this.