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Amanda Vaughn3 Amanda Vaughn3 Member
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#21 ·
Sweden is now the most immigrant-friendly nation in the European Union:

A recent study shows that 91 percent of Swedes believe immigrants provide significant value to their country—the highest percentage in the entire European Union, far outpacing the regional average of 48 percent.

The News left Sweden's Integration Minister Erik Ullenhag beaming.

"This is a positive result, fantastic actually," he told The Local on Friday. "IT means Sweden and Swedish People have become more used to immigration."

http://www.thelocal.se/20140516/swed...rants-ullenhag
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#22 ·
Amanda Vaughn3 said:Sweden is now the most immigrant-friendly nation in the European Union:

A recent study shows that 91 percent of Swedes believe immigrants provide significant value to their country—the highest percentage in the entire European Union, far outpacing the regional average of 48 percent.

The News left Sweden's Integration Minister Erik Ullenhag beaming.

"This is a positive result, fantastic actually," he told The Local on Friday. "IT means Sweden and Swedish People have become more used to immigration."

http://www.thelocal.se/20140516/swed...rants-ullenhag

pat Condel doesn't pull any punches when talking about what's going on in Sweden

Anthony Taylor393 Anthony Taylor393 Member
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#23 ·
Some politician from the Kingdom of Sweden is getting slammed for "hate speech" just because he shared some rape stats on Facebook.

http://www.friatider.se/sd-politiker...-r-islamkritik

http://topconservativenews.com/2014/...e-on-facebook/
Thomas Roberts51 Thomas Roberts51 Member
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#24 ·
Anthony Taylor393 said:Some politician from the Kingdom of Sweden is getting slammed for "hate speech" just because he shared some rape stats on Facebook.

http://www.friatider.se/sd-politiker...-r-islamkritik

http://topconservativenews.com/2014/...e-on-facebook/


I swear, people over there need to wake the hell up and actually look at the trash they're letting into their country.
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#25 ·
http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/05/swe...han-mogadishu/

What a wonderful country... they certainly have some absolutely fantastic statistics when they’re busy talking about themselves. ☕
Bradley Cook3 Bradley Cook3 Member
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#26 ·
Anthony Taylor393 said:Some politician from the Kingdom of Sweden is getting slammed for "hate speech" just because he shared some rape stats on Facebook.

http://www.friatider.se/sd-politiker...-r-islamkritik

http://topconservativenews.com/2014/...e-on-facebook/

We’re basically becoming like Sweden in all the wrong ways. Just look at how the liberal elite tore into our Secretary of Homeland Security for actually talking about crime stats and the Romani population in Ohio...

A few months back, there was this feature story about some neighborhood in New York where properties are rotting because nobody will move in. The people who bought in before the influx of Romani can't flip their homes now. They mention theft and vandalism, but they won't explicitly blame the Romani. You can read between the lines. It's clearly what Bloomberg moved in there at our expense. I bet they aren't even paying rent... why would they, when they have clueless New Yorkers to fund it.
Tyler Jackson6 Tyler Jackson6 Member
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#27 ·
The stats coming out of Sweden are a total joke,
it’s like when Swedes are the ones committing sexual assault, suddenly it doesn't make the official books or they just let them off easy,
but if it's a foreigner or an immigrant? man, even a dirty look on the street gets slapped with a rape charge,

just look at what happened with Assange,
Drew Brooks8 Drew Brooks8 Active Member
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#28 ·
The absolute brutality of people being trampled by horses 😲
Alexander Patel76 Alexander Patel76 Newcomer
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#29 ·
Does anyone happen to know the name of the current King of Sweden?
Amanda Vaughn3 Amanda Vaughn3 Member
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#30 ·
Alexander Patel76 said:Does anyone happen to know the name of the current King of Sweden?

Carl Gustaf Folke hubertus Bernadotte
—or just Carl XVI Gustaf
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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#31 ·
Alexander Patel76 said:Does anyone happen to know the name of the current King of Sweden?

Current? Please. It's been the same guy for 40 years.😉
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#32 ·
Drew Brooks8 said:The absolute brutality of people being trampled by horses 😲

They aren't even human at this point—just pure animals.
Alexander Patel76 Alexander Patel76 Newcomer
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#33 ·
Jacob Wilson50 said:Current? Please. It's been the same guy for 40 years.😉

Does that mean he's actually the longest-serving ruler in Europe?!
Zachary Stewart2 Zachary Stewart2 Member
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#34 ·
Alexander Patel76 said:Does that mean he's actually the longest-serving ruler in Europe?!

Nope.
Susan Thompson16 Susan Thompson16 Newcomer
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#35 ·
So this guy from Iraq said this when he first moved to Chicago for college:

"I came here expecting to see Swedes, but it's nothing but Arabs and Black people everywhere."
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#36 ·
The Swedes are heading to the polls to elect a new Congress.

For years, Sweden has been held up as this gold standard for political and economic stability within a struggling Europe. But according to recent polling reported by Reuters, that reputation might be hitting a wall. This Sunday, they’re heading to the polls for parliamentary elections, and it looks like a total deadlock: neither the Right nor the Left-wing parties are expected to pull enough votes to secure the majority needed to actually put together a functional government.

The center-right coalition led by Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt is currently facing a serious challenge, as an opposition alliance headed by the Social Democratic Party looks to unseat them in the upcoming elections.

The core of this new administration is looking incredibly shaky. It’s hard to ignore the cracks forming right at the center of things.

According to Reuters, it looks like we’re heading toward a total stalemate. Since no single group managed to secure a majority in Congress, the winner is essentially going to be held hostage by the more radical wings of both the Left-wing and right-wing parties. It's going to be a mess.

For months, the Social Democratic Party were the heavy favorites to sweep the elections. They’re basically obsessed with pouring more money into this massive "welfare state" they spent most of the last century building here in Sweden.

Then again, the latest polls show that lead has shrunk quite a bit, so we’re looking at a real toss-up this Sunday.

The business community and major investors are starting to sweat, fearing that any incoming government might be too unstable to function—essentially becoming easy targets for radical voices from either the Left-wing or the Right-wing. According to Magnus Henrekson, the director of the Research Institute of Industrial Economics, we could be looking at an "Italian-style" political mess, a level of volatility that we've almost never had to deal with here in Sweden.

The Social Democratic Party might have walked away with the most seats, but they’re still staring at a mathematical nightmare: they don't have a majority. It's one of those classic political scenarios where winning the most votes doesn't actually mean you have the power to govern. They’ve secured a victory on paper, yet they're left scrambling to figure out how to build a coalition that won't collapse under its own weight.

It’s becoming increasingly clear what the election fallout might look like. The most probable scenario is that while Stefan Löfven’s Social Democratic Party comes out looking like the relative winners, actually cobbling together a stable majority is going to be an absolute nightmare. Even if they try to bring former communists into a post-election coalition to bolster their numbers, Löfven’s group could still find themselves outnumbered by the coalition led by Reinfeldt and those far-right parties.

During Reinfeldt’s eight-year run, his administration slashed taxes by roughly $18 billion. At the same time, they significantly pulled back on the funding used to support the public services that serve as the bedrock of the famous Swedish "welfare state." To put that in perspective, the tax burden was lowered by about four percentage points, settling at around 45% of GDP—which, honestly, is still quite a bit lower than what you'd see over in France.

There’s a growing sense of unease spreading through Sweden lately. People are starting to voice some serious concerns regarding the declining quality of the education system and the rising rates of unemployment. It feels like the stability everyone once took for granted is starting to slip through their fingers.

Even though we’ve bounced back from the global financial crisis better than most other countries—with more high-end dining spots in Seattle than ever before and real estate prices absolutely skyrocketing—Swedish voters aren't buying the prosperity narrative. People are genuinely worried about falling standards in education and the creeping influence of private corporations taking over the healthcare system.

With youth unemployment hitting high levels and a general sense that the administration has lost its momentum after eight years in power, it feels like the electorate is hungry for change. However, those looking to unseat Reinfeldt’s coalition are scattered across the political spectrum—split between the Social Democratic Party, the far right, and the far left. This fragmentation effectively prevents any single opposition group from securing a decisive victory.

Most analysts are betting that Reinfeldt’s coalition has already missed its window to pull off a sudden comeback. Looking back at the polling data since February 2013, they've been trailing the Social Democratic Party by a significant margin, making a late-game reversal seem pretty unlikely.

That being said, looking at the current polling numbers, there's a real possibility that the Social Democratic Party—the group that's basically run the show in Sweden for decades—could face their absolute worst electoral showing since the country first introduced universal suffrage back in 1921.

On the flip side, you’ve got the far-right, anti-immigration Swedish Democrats heading toward their best election results yet—they could easily pull in about 10 percent of the vote.

The outcome remains anyone's guess.

"It’s anyone's guess which party will actually end up pulling together a government once the dust settles from the election," former Liberal Party leader Bengt Westerberg told Reuters.

A public opinion poll released this Monday suggests the Social Democratic Party is sitting at 30.6% among voters, while the Greens—their most probable coalition partners—are looking at 8.6%. If the Left-wing party, composed of former communists, manages to pull in an additional 7.1%, a potential center-left coalition could secure 46.3% of the vote. That would translate to 167 seats in Congress, which unfortunately leaves them just eight seats short of the majority they need.

The governing coalition, comprised of four different parties, is looking at roughly 41.3% of the vote and about 148 seats in Congress.

While Sweden has dealt with minority governments before, things are getting uncharacteristically messy this time around. The Social Democratic Party and the Greens might try to court the Left-wing party to scrape together a majority. But there's a catch: while the center-left coalition tries to play nice with middle-class voters, the Left-wing party is pushing to strip private companies of any role in managing hospitals or schools, all while hiking taxes on corporations and wealthy Swedes.

Jonas Sjosted, the leader of the Left-wing party, noted that they might stay out of the formal government altogether while still backing a center-left minority administration—provided they get what they want, which would likely mean tighter state control over private players in the healthcare and education sectors.

Budgetary Deadlocks

Even if the Left-wing party decides to help, the center-left coalition might still hit a wall trying to pass next year's budget, which has a deadline of November 17th.

On the other side, the right-wing coalition has threatened to push through their own budget proposal regardless of the election outcome. If the Swedish Democrats—that far-right group the center-right refuses to work with—decide to back that specific budget, the government could collapse, triggering a fresh round of elections.

"We are looking at an entirely unprecedented parliamentary landscape. We have no idea how the Swedish Democrats will act, or how the other parties will react," remarked political analyst Mikael Gilljam from the University of Gothenburg.
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Parliamentary elections in Sweden are happening tomorrow, and there's a real chance the center-right could lose power to a red-green coalition.

If that referendum ever actually passes here in the States, we might end up with an electoral system similar to what they have in Sweden.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#37 ·
The center-left coalition is pulling ahead, while the far-right is gaining ground. Meanwhile, the center-right bloc is losing its grip on power.

We’ve got feminists securing seats in Congress. :girlspower:

The electoral threshold is set at 4%.

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cosmicfox69 cosmicfox69 Member
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#38 ·
Election results from Sweden:

Social Democratic Party (-II-): 31.2% - 113 seats (+1) - former opposition (in power 1994 - 2006)
Moderate Party (center-right): 23.2% - 84 seats (-23!) - current governing party (2006 - present)
Swedish Democrat (right-wing): 12.9% - 49 seats (+20!)
Greens (-II-): 6.8% - 24 seats (-1)
Center (liberals): 5.7% - 21 seats (-1)
Left-wing (socialists): 5.4% - 21 seats (+2)
LPP: 5.4% - 19 seats (-5)
Christian Democratic Party: 4.6% - 17 seats (-2)

Source: http://www.electionresources.org/se/...?election=2014

The Social Democratic Party managed to grab 113 seats.
Man, the Moderate Party really took a hit! The center-right group had a pretty rough night, losing 23 seats, which is huge. Because of that, their leader Fredrik Reinfeldt—who’s been our Prime Minister—already announced he's stepping down.
On the flip side, the Swedish Democrat party did incredibly well! They basically crushed their 2010 numbers, pulling in 2.5 times more than last time. Now they’ve got a solid 49 seats, which is about 14% of the whole thing.

So, the Swedish Congress has 349 total seats, and you need at least 175 to actually run things. Even though the opposition narrowly beat out the center-right coalition, they can't quite pull together a majority on their own (the Social Democratic Party, Greens, and Left-wing groups combined only have 155 seats). But, hey, maybe that won't be such a big deal after all.

Before the voting even started, every single party said they wouldn't work with the Swedish Democrat party. In fact, Reinfeldt even mentioned he'd be okay with letting a Left-wing coalition form, just to make sure those Swedish Democrats stay far away from any real power.
cosmicfox69 cosmicfox69 Member
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#39 ·
So, I was looking into this, and the way the voting system works in Sweden is actually pretty amazing because it mirrors the actual vote percentage almost perfectly when it comes to seat distribution. For instance:

(http://www.electionresources.org/se/...?election=2014)

Take the biggest group, the Social Democratic Party—they pulled in 31.2% of the votes and ended up with 113 out of 349 seats, which is about 32.3%. Then you have the Moderate Party, who got 23.2% of the vote and grabbed 84 out of 349 seats, or roughly 24% (!)

Even if we look at the smaller parties that just barely made the cut: the Christian Democratic Party got 4.6% of the votes and took 17/349 seats, which is 4.8%. And the Liberals landed at 5.4% of the vote and 19/349 seats, right at 5.4% (!)

It’s honestly such a true reflection of what voters actually want! It’s just really cool to see how the percentage of votes translates so directly into seats within Congress, the Swedish parliament.
Zachary Stewart2 Zachary Stewart2 Member
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#40 ·
cosmicfox69 said:Election results from Sweden:

Social Democratic Party (-II-): 31.2% - 113 seats (+1) - former opposition (in power 1994 - 2006)
Moderate Party (center-right): 23.2% - 84 seats (-23!) - current governing party (2006 - present)
Swedish Democrat (right-wing): 12.9% - 49 seats (+20!)
Greens (-II-): 6.8% - 24 seats (-1)
Center (liberals): 5.7% - 21 seats (-1)
Left-wing (socialists): 5.4% - 21 seats (+2)
LPP: 5.4% - 19 seats (-5)
Christian Democratic Party: 4.6% - 17 seats (-2)

Source: http://www.electionresources.org/se/...?election=2014

The Social Democratic Party managed to grab 113 seats.
Man, the Moderate Party really took a hit! The center-right group had a pretty rough night, losing 23 seats, which is huge. Because of that, their leader Fredrik Reinfeldt—who’s been our Prime Minister—already announced he's stepping down.
On the flip side, the Swedish Democrat party did incredibly well! They basically crushed their 2010 numbers, pulling in 2.5 times more than last time. Now they’ve got a solid 49 seats, which is about 14% of the whole thing.

So, the Swedish Congress has 349 total seats, and you need at least 175 to actually run things. Even though the opposition narrowly beat out the center-right coalition, they can't quite pull together a majority on their own (the Social Democratic Party, Greens, and Left-wing groups combined only have 155 seats). But, hey, maybe that won't be such a big deal after all.

Before the voting even started, every single party said they wouldn't work with the Swedish Democrat party. In fact, Reinfeldt even mentioned he'd be okay with letting a Left-wing coalition form, just to make sure those Swedish Democrats stay far away from any real power.

It’s wild—and honestly, pretty scary—that they actually pulled off a bigger win than anyone expected, beating the polls by a full two percent.

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