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frozenranger52 frozenranger52 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#401 ·
According to the most recent polling data, the Swedish Democrats—that anti-immigration party—are actually seeing the highest levels of support right now. Even though their numbers sit at just 24.9%, it’s still the largest single share of the vote, even edging out the Social Democrats who currently lead the governing coalition:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7649506.html
redridge35 redridge35 Member
40 messages
joined Sep 2016
#402 ·
frozenranger52 said:According to the most recent polling data, the Swedish Democrats—that anti-immigration party—are actually seeing the highest levels of support right now. Even though their numbers sit at just 24.9%, it’s still the largest single share of the vote, even edging out the Social Democrats who currently lead the governing coalition:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7649506.html

I feel like the questions I was asking earlier regarding the AfD and what's going on in Germany could totally apply to the situation with the Sweden Democrats too.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
232 messages
joined Oct 2018
#403 ·
Reports coming in about a terrorist attack in Sweden just a half hour ago:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-crowds-sweden

Apparently, some terrorist used a truck to plow into people in a pedestrian zone. There are multiple injuries reported, and I guess they're saying there might be three dead so far.
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
66 messages
joined May 2017
#404 ·
Word is they finally caught him. I just can't wrap my head around how he could have strolled out so casually, almost like he was playing Steven Seagal in one of those movies...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7673401.html
Betty Ross6 Betty Ross6 Active Member
58 messages
joined Sep 2016
#405 ·
Are we even sure this is terrorism? The Swedish authorities always flip the script after a few hours... usually turns out to be some mafia hit job instead.
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#406 ·
shadowhawk31 shadowhawk31 Member
45 messages
joined Jan 2019
#407 ·
Nothing surprising here.
It was bound to happen sooner or later.
The whole country is just bursting at the seams.
restlesshound26 restlesshound26 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Oct 2018
#408 ·
Betty Ross6 said:Are we even sure this is terrorism? The Swedish authorities always flip the script after a few hours... usually turns out to be some mafia hit job instead.

It’s almost certainly organized crime, which explains why they haven't released any identifying details about the suspect—all we know is his name is Olaf and he has blue eyes...
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
232 messages
joined Oct 2018
#409 ·
restlesshound26 said:It’s almost certainly organized crime, which explains why they haven't released any identifying details about the suspect—all we know is his name is Olaf and he has blue eyes...

Supposedly an Uzbek.
Four dead, and they're saying about fifteen people were seriously injured... some of them even had limbs amputated.
nimblemoose2 nimblemoose2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2019
#410 ·
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ter_mailonline

Swedish anti-terror police—including a Muslim officer highly respected by his peers—faced a barrage of stones during the arrest of Stockholm attack suspects near the migrant district Trump called a 'no-go zone'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4dgmUp4Rw
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | Daily Mail on Facebook

It seems people were quick to label Trump as crazy whenever he pointed out how dire things had become in Sweden.
Scott Jones4 Scott Jones4 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2019
#411 ·
I’m pretty sure everyone out here slamming Sweden's immigration policy has a rock-solid backup plan for how to actually fund social security and pensions.

Check it out, here's the "alternative" approach they're taking over in Denmark:



Look, the video is hilarious, no doubt, but I was hoping for something a little more substantial from you guys. If you’ve got enough energy to tear down migration policies, you should have just as much juice to come up with actual solutions.

And just so we're clear—not that I'm claiming to be some expert here—the core issue is still whatever's happening in the places people are fleeing from, whether it's Somalia or somewhere like Mexico.
Betty Ross6 Betty Ross6 Active Member
58 messages
joined Sep 2016
#412 ·
So, Germany is docking your pay by 30% just because you're single... basically telling you to deal with it. Meanwhile, people with partners get all the perks. There's your solution right there.
Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
125 messages
joined Apr 2019
#413 ·
Betty Ross6 said:So, Germany is docking your pay by 30% just because you're single... basically telling you to deal with it. Meanwhile, people with partners get all the perks. There's your solution right there.

Honestly, what they achieved in Germany is just a total disaster🤣. Their birth rate is even lower than Japan's
.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
232 messages
joined Oct 2018
#414 ·
Scott Jones4 said:I’m pretty sure everyone out here slamming Sweden's immigration policy has a rock-solid backup plan for how to actually fund social security and pensions.

Check it out, here's the "alternative" approach they're taking over in Denmark:



Look, the video is hilarious, no doubt, but I was hoping for something a little more substantial from you guys. If you’ve got enough energy to tear down migration policies, you should have just as much juice to come up with actual solutions.

And just so we're clear—not that I'm claiming to be some expert here—the core issue is still whatever's happening in the places people are fleeing from, whether it's Somalia or somewhere like Mexico.

And why shouldn't we be allowed to talk about this?

For starters, just give me the actual numbers—how many people from this recent wave of non-European immigrants have actually landed jobs?

How is bringing millions of people onto social welfare supposed to sustain a retirement fund?
It might just accelerate its destruction instead, which... if I'm not mistaken... is exactly what's already happening over in Sweden.
Scott Jones4 Scott Jones4 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2019
#415 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:And why shouldn't we be allowed to talk about this?

For starters, just give me the actual numbers—how many people from this recent wave of non-European immigrants have actually landed jobs?

How is bringing millions of people onto social welfare supposed to sustain a retirement fund?
It might just accelerate its destruction instead, which... if I'm not mistaken... is exactly what's already happening over in Sweden.

I don't have those specific stats, but I do think Sweden went overboard—and not just with the sheer number of immigrants. They went from 3% in the 1950s to 20% immigrant population today, yet they still boast one of the highest employment rates in the European Union. Check it out:

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist..._statistics/us

Doesn't exactly look like their immigration policy was a total disaster, does it? It’s simple logic: if you have people, you have people to hire. If you don't, you don't. There's no doubt that the money spent on initial social support for many immigrants pays off in the long run. The population in Europe is aging fast, and that’s the one thing that's truly unstoppable and unsolvable. We don't have immigrants, and look at the mess we're in regarding the ratio of workers to retirees.
Betty Ross6 Betty Ross6 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#416 ·
Sandra Johnson58 said:Honestly, what they achieved in Germany is just a total disaster🤣. Their birth rate is even lower than Japan's
.

not sure about that, but people from the old America who move there usually pop a kid out immediately just to grab those extra benefits😬 It's all about protecting the paycheck...
Betty Ross6 Betty Ross6 Active Member
58 messages
joined Sep 2016
#417 ·
Scott Jones4 said:I don't have those specific stats, but I do think Sweden went overboard—and not just with the sheer number of immigrants. They went from 3% in the 1950s to 20% immigrant population today, yet they still boast one of the highest employment rates in the European Union. Check it out:

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist..._statistics/us

Doesn't exactly look like their immigration policy was a total disaster, does it? It’s simple logic: if you have people, you have people to hire. If you don't, you don't. There's no doubt that the money spent on initial social support for many immigrants pays off in the long run. The population in Europe is aging fast, and that’s the one thing that's truly unstoppable and unsolvable. We don't have immigrants, and look at the mess we're in regarding the ratio of workers to retirees.

nothing is unsolvable. free healthcare for families with three or more kids while childless people pay higher premiums, cutting pensions in half for anyone with fewer than three kids, giving extra points during hiring for parents of three or more to bump them up the ladder—just a few ideas to force most people to have kids purely for the perks. even back in the day, people didn't just have kids because of love; they needed hands to plow fields, mow grass, move hay, and tend to the livestock. kids have always been an economic move. the only time they weren't was recently, when people actually had them for love...

and let's be clear, forcing people to have kids isn't the answer, and neither is bringing in millions of immigrants just to fund pension funds. better to just scrap the whole system and let everyone save for themselves, rather than watching a society slowly commit suicide...
Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
125 messages
joined Apr 2019
#418 ·
Betty Ross6 said:not sure about that, but people from the old America who move there usually pop a kid out immediately just to grab those extra benefits😬 It's all about protecting the paycheck...

Germany’s birth rate is sitting at like 1.38, which tells you everything about this whole baby boom thing. Honestly, even in Germany, it doesn't look like immigrants are cranking out kids nearly as much as everyone claims, especially when you look at places like the United Kingdom or France that dealt with massive immigration too and actually have way higher rates. Like, realistically? There isn't some magic way to force people to have kids. People in the West have been living pretty comfortably for a long time now, and I guess kids are starting to feel more like this unwanted burden that just cuts into your freedom and quality of life. I mean, let's be real—people in the West just don't want to deal with the headache of raising kids, so they'd rather just blow their cash on shopping, traveling, getting pets, or whatever else, I guess.
Betty Ross6 Betty Ross6 Active Member
58 messages
joined Sep 2016
#419 ·
Sure, there's a way to do it, but then you're basically tossing democracy and human rights out the window...
frozenranger52 frozenranger52 Member
40 messages
joined Dec 2012
#420 ·
The Kingdom of Sweden far-right groupsare looking to organize a Pride parade right through the heart of Muslim neighborhoods in New York City

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/0...180328656.html

I recall a similar attempt being discussed a few years back, though it never actually came to fruition...

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