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Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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#441 ·
So, what exactly are these changes to the laws in Sweden regarding the legal definition of sexual consent? Here’s the breakdown:
http://www.government.se/press-relea...ed-on-consent/
Is there anyone actually competent enough to weigh in on this?
September?
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#442 ·
Noah Sullivan said:So, what exactly are these changes to the laws in Sweden regarding the legal definition of sexual consent? Here’s the breakdown:
http://www.government.se/press-relea...ed-on-consent/
Is there anyone actually competent enough to weigh in on this?
September?

😕
If you read that official government link, they make it sound as if having legal sex without consent was somehow perfectly acceptable until now:

New sexual offence legislation based on consent

The US Government has presented a proposal to The Council on Legislation concerning New sexual offence legislation that is based on consent.

The incidence of sexual offences is increasing in Sweden, with younger women facing the greatest risk. At the same time, too few of these offences are reported. Reversing this negative trend requires both new legislation and changes in attitudes. In the legislative proposal, The US Government therefore proposes introducing new sexual consent legislation based on the obvious: sex must be voluntary. Accordingly, convicting a perpetrator of rape will no longer require that violence or threats were used, or that the victim's particularly vulnerable situation was exploited.

The US Government also proposes introducing two new offences, 'negligent rape' and 'negligent sexual abuse', with a maximum prison sentence of four years. The negligence aspect focuses on the fact that the other person did not participate voluntarily. This means that it will be possible to convict more people of abuse than at present, for example when someone should be aware of the risk that the other person is not participating voluntarily but still engages in a sexual act with that person.

Below ara other proposals The US Government is referring to The Council on Legislation for consideration:

increasing the minimum penalty for gross rape and gross rape of a child from four to five years imprisonment;
enhancing the protection provided under criminal law concerning sexual offences against children where the perpetrator displayed negligence with regard to the child's age. One of The aims of Thes amendments is to avoid The problem of excessive emphasis being placed on the child's physical development; and
providing support to victims of sexual offences at an earlier stage of the process. When a preliminary investigation on a sexual offence is initiated, a request for a counsel to represent the injured party is to be made immediately.

It is proposed that the legislative amendments enter into force on 1 July 2018.
Contact
Miriam Abu Eid
Press Coordinator, Department of Justice
Phone +46
email to Miriam Abu Eid
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Fact sheet : Consent – The Basic requirement of New sexual offences legislation Published 21 December 2017 · Updated 21 December 2017

Published 21 December 2017 · Updated 21 December 2017
Nicholas Nguyen Nicholas Nguyen Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#443 ·
So, before every single hookup, you'll apparently need a notarized document from a local official proving you have permission to be with a specific person at a specific time. It’s a bit much, isn't it?

Anyway, back to a topic from a few days ago—I can't recall which thread—where a female user living in Sweden mentioned that because of all this forced feminist nonsense, men over there are practically neutered. They don't even dare approach women unless they're looking for a heavy session over the weekend.
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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#444 ·
On the flip side, Breitbart is reporting that a veteran journalist was kicked out of the "prestigious" New York Post
simply because he had the audacity to speak up against the grain—specifically, pointing out how these changes essentially gut the presumption of innocence entirely:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...ual-relations/
I have to wonder—will men in Sweden even be able to engage in intimacy without the constant, looming fear of facing police interrogation or a courtroom drama just because a lady decides to change her mind mid-act?
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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#445 ·
Nicholas Nguyen said:So, before every single hookup, you'll apparently need a notarized document from a local official proving you have permission to be with a specific person at a specific time. It’s a bit much, isn't it?

Anyway, back to a topic from a few days ago—I can't recall which thread—where a female user living in Sweden mentioned that because of all this forced feminist nonsense, men over there are practically neutered. They don't even dare approach women unless they're looking for a heavy session over the weekend.

Yeah, someone over at Breitbart is arguing that this whole thing was driven by feminists aiming to tear down the natural dynamics between men and women. Honestly—looking at how things are heading—that’s starting to feel more and more like a reality.
Nicholas Nguyen Nicholas Nguyen Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#446 ·
Here is something a bit more positive coming out of Sweden.

Did you know the Swedish Constitution actually guarantees "freedom to roam"? Here’s the deal.
Quote : ALLEMANSRATTEN is probably a term you’ve never encountered unless you happen to live in Sweden. But this concept—which essentially translates to "the right of everyone"—is actually enshrined in the Swedish Constitution.

It’s essentially a "right for everyone"—the freedom to wander through the American wilderness as far as you please, provided you follow a few simple rules: don't disturb anything and don't destroy anything. Last year, the US Government actually leveraged this constitutional right for a massive tourism campaign, effectively putting the entire country up for grabs on Airbnb.

Allemansratten—or the right to roam—is a principle enshrined in the laws of Sweden, granting everyone the freedom to wander through the great outdoors. To put it plainly, the wilderness in Sweden isn't just some collection of trees, lakes, and cliffs. It’s a home, complete with all the essentials any decent home should provide. It is a place where you can forage for berries, sleep under the stars, swim in the lakes, and simply move as you please.

According to Treehugger, Sweden operates under a concept called Allemansrätten, which stands in stark contrast to the United States. Essentially, you can't be sued for trespassing just because you're crossing someone else's property. You have the freedom to traverse both public and private land on foot, by bike, on skis, by horse, or even by boat. Beyond just moving through the landscape, you're allowed to forage for berries, flowers, and mushrooms. You can even camp for a single night, and in certain circumstances, start a campfire at your site.

"But you also have a responsibility to protect nature. If you happen to cross onto someone's property, stay out of sight and keep the noise down," explains Peter Curman, a guide at Tyresta National Park. You're free to access almost any land, provided you steer clear of private residences, their immediate surroundings, or cultivated farmland. Beyond that, you can use private roads unless signs say otherwise, hit any beach as long as you respect the neighbors' privacy, fish, or take a dip in the lakes.
Gary Cooper3 Gary Cooper3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2021
#447 ·
Nicholas Nguyen said:So, before every single hookup, you'll apparently need a notarized document from a local official proving you have permission to be with a specific person at a specific time. It’s a bit much, isn't it?

Anyway, back to a topic from a few days ago—I can't recall which thread—where a female user living in Sweden mentioned that because of all this forced feminist nonsense, men over there are practically neutered. They don't even dare approach women unless they're looking for a heavy session over the weekend.

Estonians, Finns, and Swedes... they're all cut from the same cloth. Refined, calm, and generally pretty quiet.
In my view, it isn't about the feminist nonsense, but rather the underlying mentality. Feminism is merely a byproduct of that mindset.
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
158 messages
joined Oct 2016
#448 ·
Some girls were talking about this over in the Women's corner, and my buddies—some were just visiting Sweden and others actually live there—all say the same thing: women are the ones taking the lead now, while guys are mostly too hesitant to make a move...

It’s not really about mindset, though. Historically, people have always been rough when they needed to be... Plus, the environment and the climate used to be so harsh that you couldn't survive unless you were tough and gritty. Economics, weather, geography, and a hundred other things shape what we call "mindset"...
Honestly, it just looks like pure societal decadence to me.

Anyway, a friend of mine in Oslo was telling me that Oslo is leading the pack when it comes to drug use. Apparently, there are even spots in the city where you can get a free dose—because the government thinks providing it is better than letting people turn to theft or crime to get by.
What can I say? Total decadence.
Kevin Baker2 Kevin Baker2 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#449 ·
There's quite a large population of long-term addicts in Oslo, most of whom have been struggling for over two decades.
They aren't getting free heroin—Norway is far too conservative for that—but there are specific locations where they can access clean supplies.
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#450 ·
Nicholas Nguyen said:So, before every single hookup, you'll apparently need a notarized document from a local official proving you have permission to be with a specific person at a specific time. It’s a bit much, isn't it?

Anyway, back to a topic from a few days ago—I can't recall which thread—where a female user living in Sweden mentioned that because of all this forced feminist nonsense, men over there are practically neutered. They don't even dare approach women unless they're looking for a heavy session over the weekend.

In Scandinavia, if you actually want to feel like a man, you’ve basically got two paths. Option A: Become a cop. You can play the tough guy, act however you want when nobody's looking, and then pull that classic "barking orders" routine like some drunk hooligan once you make an arrest. It's pretty much the norm for most of them, honestly. The law basically gives them a free pass, too. The Probability of actually winning a case against the police in court? Pretty much zero. Option B: Join a biker gang—you know, sign up for one of those Harley-Davidson clubs filled with "rockers" and actual criminals. Your other options are just to pack your bags and move away, or simply stop giving a damn. 😁 It’s low. Like, barely even two percent, but literally.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#451 ·
Rachel Allen55 said:In Scandinavia, if you actually want to feel like a man, you’ve basically got two paths. Option A: Become a cop. You can play the tough guy, act however you want when nobody's looking, and then pull that classic "barking orders" routine like some drunk hooligan once you make an arrest. It's pretty much the norm for most of them, honestly. The law basically gives them a free pass, too. The Probability of actually winning a case against the police in court? Pretty much zero. Option B: Join a biker gang—you know, sign up for one of those Harley-Davidson clubs filled with "rockers" and actual criminals. Your other options are just to pack your bags and move away, or simply stop giving a damn. 😁 It’s low. Like, barely even two percent, but literally.

Lately in Sweden, it seems like cops are quitting their jobs left and right. It’s probably because the "normal" ones—if they even exist—are tired of getting punched in the face every time they arrest the wrong person or try to step in in certain neighborhoods. Instead, they're expected to just crack down on peaceful citizens.
It feels like we're heading toward a future where the police force just adopts the mindset of being another street gang. 🤔

B) join a biker gang, you know, sign up for one of those Harley-Davidson clubs filled with so-called rockers and criminals. The only other alternative is to just pack your bags and leave or simply not 😁. Though, honestly, there isn't even a two percent chance of that happening.

Basically, you join a wild mob where the members will hunt you down if you report them for anything. Especially if some party girl decides she didn't enjoy the sex.

So, all that's left is to wait for the expansion of "no-go zones" ruled by gangs of motorized Vikings.

A truly wonderful future for Swedish women, I guess.

They'll get to choose between three types of zones: no-go zones run by immigrant groups, no-go zones controlled by biker gangs, and then the zones governed by anarchist police who don't follow any laws at all...
🤔 🤣

Go Sweden!
🍿
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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#452 ·
It might be on the horizon, but let’s not hold our breath just yet—everything is still very much up in the air... But what exactly is the deal with these legal amendments? I mean, our own laws regarding non-consensual sex were allegedly modeled after the Swedish standard, and this sounds suspiciously similar to that... 😕 ...So, what is actually changing here, and should we expect a similar wave of legislation to hit us next?
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#453 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:Lately in Sweden, it seems like cops are quitting their jobs left and right. It’s probably because the "normal" ones—if they even exist—are tired of getting punched in the face every time they arrest the wrong person or try to step in in certain neighborhoods. Instead, they're expected to just crack down on peaceful citizens.
It feels like we're heading toward a future where the police force just adopts the mindset of being another street gang. 🤔

B) join a biker gang, you know, sign up for one of those Harley-Davidson clubs filled with so-called rockers and criminals. The only other alternative is to just pack your bags and leave or simply not 😁. Though, honestly, there isn't even a two percent chance of that happening.

Basically, you join a wild mob where the members will hunt you down if you report them for anything. Especially if some party girl decides she didn't enjoy the sex.

So, all that's left is to wait for the expansion of "no-go zones" ruled by gangs of motorized Vikings.

A truly wonderful future for Swedish women, I guess.

They'll get to choose between three types of zones: no-go zones run by immigrant groups, no-go zones controlled by biker gangs, and then the zones governed by anarchist police who don't follow any laws at all...
🤔 🤣

Go Sweden!
🍿

It's a toss-up, but this is definitely the direction Sweden is headed. 😁 Though, to be fair, other Scandinavian countries aren't doing much better. Denmark might be slightly more hardcore than the other two, but it's a small difference.
Nicholas Nguyen Nicholas Nguyen Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#454 ·
You’re better off watching the YouTube clips from Angry Foreigner. He offers a reasoned critique of Sweden and the persona it tries to project.
Interestingly enough, Angry Foreigner is actually a Canadian (and most likely Muslim) who immigrated to Sweden with his parents during the war.
Kimberly Martinez2 Kimberly Martinez2 Newcomer
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#455 ·
I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I’ve never really connected with Swedes. Not even a little bit. To be honest, I’m not particularly fond of other Scandinavians either, but there is something about the Swedish temperament that just grates on my nerves—that relentless political correctness and polished veneer. Beneath all that smoothness, there’s this underlying sense of deep-seated racism; they look down their noses at you, lecturing you on how progressive and civilized they are, while treating you like some unrefined outsider who only showed up in Sweden to catch a glimpse of actual civilization.

And of course, they act as if no one else can touch them or their supposed tolerance, as if they single-handedly invented civilization for all of Europe and practically carry the entire world on their backs.

If I take this generalization to its logical conclusion, they are incredibly cold people. Everyone is perfectly polite, yet you’ll never catch an honest smile or a genuine look in someone's eyes. If you happen to raise your voice slightly in traffic or show even a hint of frustration or anger, they stare at you as if you’ve completely lost your mind. Everyone keeps everything bottled up; everyone maintains this rigid distance. On the street, no one will meet your gaze when speaking to you, they go out of their way to avoid any unnecessary physical contact, and they seem absolutely terrified of public disagreements or even a minor argument.

Perhaps I’ve just spent far too much time around the Mediterranean. 🤔
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#456 ·
Kimberly Martinez2 said:I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I’ve never really connected with Swedes. Not even a little bit. To be honest, I’m not particularly fond of other Scandinavians either, but there is something about the Swedish temperament that just grates on my nerves—that relentless political correctness and polished veneer. Beneath all that smoothness, there’s this underlying sense of deep-seated racism; they look down their noses at you, lecturing you on how progressive and civilized they are, while treating you like some unrefined outsider who only showed up in Sweden to catch a glimpse of actual civilization.

And of course, they act as if no one else can touch them or their supposed tolerance, as if they single-handedly invented civilization for all of Europe and practically carry the entire world on their backs.

If I take this generalization to its logical conclusion, they are incredibly cold people. Everyone is perfectly polite, yet you’ll never catch an honest smile or a genuine look in someone's eyes. If you happen to raise your voice slightly in traffic or show even a hint of frustration or anger, they stare at you as if you’ve completely lost your mind. Everyone keeps everything bottled up; everyone maintains this rigid distance. On the street, no one will meet your gaze when speaking to you, they go out of their way to avoid any unnecessary physical contact, and they seem absolutely terrified of public disagreements or even a minor argument.

Perhaps I’ve just spent far too much time around the Mediterranean. 🤔


It’s not that you spent too much time by the Mediterranean; it’s just how Sweden is. Denmark is pretty much the same, except unlike the Swedes, they actually have the guts to say what they think about people. When it comes to that, Denmark and Norway are very similar.
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#457 ·
I would appreciate it if those currently residing in Sweden could weigh in on the video provided in this
quote:
zokster said:... - refugees from the Swedish multicultural paradise have begun arriving in Canada - link

Does this video actually reflect the lived experiences of this woman—the very reason she chose to leave Sweden behind—
or are we looking at nothing more than anti-Sweden propaganda?

If this is indeed propaganda, how much truth can be salvaged from it, and how much—in your estimation—is purely fabricated?
Furthermore, who might be pulling the strings behind such propaganda, and what would their motive be?
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#458 ·
Noah Sullivan said:I would appreciate it if those currently residing in Sweden could weigh in on the video provided in this
quote:

Does this video actually reflect the lived experiences of this woman—the very reason she chose to leave Sweden behind—
or are we looking at nothing more than anti-Sweden propaganda?

If this is indeed propaganda, how much truth can be salvaged from it, and how much—in your estimation—is purely fabricated?
Furthermore, who might be pulling the strings behind such propaganda, and what would their motive be?

I know Sweden inside out—it’s basically my second home. Honestly, the media censorship there is 100%. You can’t just say whatever you want in the big news outlets. Sure, you can vent on blogs or random sites, but the major media houses? Forget it. They overanalyze everything to keep things sterile and politically correct. It’s like the Swedish mindset is hardwired that way. People act like ultra-religious zealots, weighing every single word because they're terrified of being punished if they step out of line. I live right across from Malmö; on a clear night, I can literally see the city lights. There are massive issues happening that the Swedish authorities just don't seem to have a handle on yet. I can back up the doctor situation too—over the last decade, we've seen a massive influx of Swedish doctors in Denmark, partly due to the language and easy credential recognition, but honestly, the numbers are so high they're starting to throw the whole system out of whack. Since she's half Canadian and half Swede, I think what she said is 100% spot on. I can't speak to specific incidents in Stockholm since I'm not there constantly, but I do know Malmö has become a real flashpoint—it's starting to feel a bit like East Harlem or parts of the Bronx in NYC. From what I read in Danish media, all the major Swedish cities are becoming problematic so fast that the police and security agencies just can't keep up.

They don't even release crime statistics publicly in Sweden anymore. The last real report back in 2005 showed that crime rates among immigrants were double those of Swedes. For Africans, it was five times higher.
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
68 messages
joined Nov 2018
#459 ·
Thanks for the reply, Rachel Allen55!

Does anyone else have thoughts on this?

For instance, where is September—our resident expert living in Sweden—to say: "Country calling Dr. Rujanka, get in touch!"
Walter Long7 Walter Long7 Active Member
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joined Jul 2017
#460 ·
Noah Sullivan said:Thanks for the reply, Rachel Allen55!

Does anyone else have thoughts on this?

For instance, where is September—our resident expert living in Sweden—to say: "Country calling Dr. Rujanka, get in touch!"

I’ve followed what’s happening in Sweden quite closely enough to give you an idea. They have their own version of Reddit/Flashback, so if your Swedish isn't up to par, you can always try running things through Google Translate... Generally speaking, people there talk pretty openly about migration, though censorship is still massive and they lock down threads constantly. You see topics like "When will Malmö fall?", "When will war break out in Sweden?", "Somalians in Sweden and crime," "7 bombs in 5 days in Malmö," or "Bomb dropped on a police station in Stockholm," and so on.

Most of those grenades originate from the North America—standard smuggling stuff used for local gang turf wars, even if innocent bystanders are getting caught in the crossfire more often lately. If I recall correctly, they dropped about 30 of them by September last year... As for what to say about Sweden, it looks like a collective national suicide to me. The situation is so absurd that you had the Swedish right wing actually advocating for pride parades through Muslim neighborhoods in Malmö, while the left was busy arguing that doing so would be considered racism against Muslim migrants... When the right starts backing pride parades and the left gets so lost in their own logic that they label such moves as racism, you know the social fabric has completely snapped and the state has spiraled.
In the last three years alone, there have been over 350,000 migrants. The popularity of the name Muhammad among newborns jumped from 35th place in 2016 to 21st in 2017, and it had climbed by more than 50 spots in the years prior to that.
And don't even get me started on how this is all being funded... For the most part, Swedes are at least partially desperate, but the brainwashing is just too intense. They lack the backbone to push back because they seem more terrified of being labeled as bigots than they are of watching their entire society collapse.

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