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hiddenbear4 hiddenbear4 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2016
#101 ·
Nicholas Nguyen said:Long-form piece on Sweden over on Index

The myth of Scandinavian socialism success: why Sweden remains one of the wealthiest nations on Earth

Since I’m pretty sure the author of this piece is actually hanging out here on the forum, I just have one question—who exactly is poisoning the minds of the Swedes? Let me explain what I mean:

Usually, when domestic hardline capitalists make their arguments, they claim that people in America are being brainwashed by various leftist media outlets or "old-school bureaucratic parasites" into thinking capitalism is a failure—which supposedly makes them skeptical of free markets (though, granted, the trauma of massive industrial collapses in the 90s isn't irrelevant).

But now I'm genuinely curious—who or what is influencing the Swedes so that they've spent the last 80 years voting for Social Democrats? It seems like Sweden enjoyed a century-long golden era of essentially free-market conditions, which is exactly how they managed to become so incredibly wealthy. Yet, for some reason, from the 1930s onward, the people have stubbornly stuck with the Social Democrats, who have basically been in power ever since. So... what on earth is wrong with these people? Why won't they just enjoy the wealth they built?

The author mentions that back in 1950—a time when most of Europe was still busy picking up the pieces from WWII, though obviously, war doesn't always have a permanent impact on a specific country's economy—the nation was already one of the richest in the world. During those years, the Social Democrats were in charge (with Tage Erlander serving as Prime Minister from 1946 until 1969, when he was succeeded by Olof Palme). So, seriously, what is the deal with these Swedes? Who is misleading them? Who is pulling the strings?
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
95 messages
joined Oct 2016
#102 ·
hiddenbear4 said:Since I’m pretty sure the author of this piece is actually hanging out here on the forum, I just have one question—who exactly is poisoning the minds of the Swedes? Let me explain what I mean:

Usually, when domestic hardline capitalists make their arguments, they claim that people in America are being brainwashed by various leftist media outlets or "old-school bureaucratic parasites" into thinking capitalism is a failure—which supposedly makes them skeptical of free markets (though, granted, the trauma of massive industrial collapses in the 90s isn't irrelevant).

But now I'm genuinely curious—who or what is influencing the Swedes so that they've spent the last 80 years voting for Social Democrats? It seems like Sweden enjoyed a century-long golden era of essentially free-market conditions, which is exactly how they managed to become so incredibly wealthy. Yet, for some reason, from the 1930s onward, the people have stubbornly stuck with the Social Democrats, who have basically been in power ever since. So... what on earth is wrong with these people? Why won't they just enjoy the wealth they built?

The author mentions that back in 1950—a time when most of Europe was still busy picking up the pieces from WWII, though obviously, war doesn't always have a permanent impact on a specific country's economy—the nation was already one of the richest in the world. During those years, the Social Democrats were in charge (with Tage Erlander serving as Prime Minister from 1946 until 1969, when he was succeeded by Olof Palme). So, seriously, what is the deal with these Swedes? Who is misleading them? Who is pulling the strings?

To make matters worse, every single Swede I've talked to insists they live in a socialist nation... so who's the crazy one here? Even in the States, you see people on TV constantly fearing that Obama wants to import Swedish-style socialism...

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/yk...syndrome-pt--1

Some even joke that Swedish women are half the size of American women because there isn't enough food to go around under socialism...
urbanorca8 urbanorca8 Member
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joined Nov 2016
#103 ·
So, Margot Wallström just announced that her government officially recognized a Palestinian state this Thursday—making Sweden the first Western nation in the European Union to pull the trigger on that decision.

http://www.bljesak.info/rubrika/vije...u-drzavu/99657
Sandra Turner2 Sandra Turner2 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2016
#104 ·
urbanorca8 said:So, Margot Wallström just announced that her government officially recognized a Palestinian state this Thursday—making Sweden the first Western nation in the European Union to pull the trigger on that decision.

http://www.bljesak.info/rubrika/vije...u-drzavu/99657

Hardly surprising at all.🤔
Sam Jones4 Sam Jones4 Member
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joined Oct 2016
#105 ·
Sweden is now the 112th country to officially recognize a Palestinian state 😲

Seriously though, where are our spineless politicians in America? Do they even remember what happened back in '91?
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#106 ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsv...TO4SCLfSlosjgg 👏
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#107 ·
Sam Jones4 said:Sweden is now the 112th country to officially recognize a Palestinian state 😲

Seriously though, where are our spineless politicians in America? Do they even remember what happened back in '91?

To hell with Palestine... what even is Palestine?
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#108 ·
The government in Sweden didn't technically collapse, but their budget is such a disaster right now that the opposition is basically calling all the shots.

Welcome to the Swedish problem. Cheers!
Sandra Turner2 Sandra Turner2 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2016
#109 ·
They have nobody to blame but themselves. They allowed a minority government—consisting of just two parties—to hold the reins while pushing vague demands and reckless stunts, such as their premature recognition of Palestine...
Justin Patel8 Justin Patel8 Active Member
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joined Mar 2014
#110 ·
Let's just hope the Sweden Democrats manage to pick up a few more seats in the US Congress.
Zachary Stewart2 Zachary Stewart2 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#111 ·
Personally, I’m really hoping that doesn't happen—I just want to see Sweden stay a free and open country.
Thomas Roberts51 Thomas Roberts51 Member
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joined May 2016
#112 ·
Justin Patel8 said:Let's just hope the Sweden Democrats manage to pick up a few more seats in the US Congress.

I’m on board too. It’s a solid party, though if you ask me, they’re just a little too pre-liberal. That's my take, anyway.
Justin Patel8 Justin Patel8 Active Member
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joined Mar 2014
#113 ·
Thomas Roberts51 said:I’m on board too. It’s a solid party, though if you ask me, they’re just a little too pre-liberal. That's my take, anyway.

Fair point. It really comes down to the fact that they aren't quite as hardcore as UKIP, for instance—mostly because basically every Swedish party over there ends up being left-leaning and pro-immigration (even the ones sitting on the center-right).
Casey Booth97 Casey Booth97 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2017
#114 ·
URGENT matter here.

So, I’m scheduled to head out to Sweden on a business trip in about two weeks for a couple of months, but I just realized my passport has expired... Is it actually possible to travel there using nothing but a state ID? I'm talking specifically about flying.
frozenranger52 frozenranger52 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#115 ·
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/komm...-is-krigare-1/

Sweden is actually planning to offer psychological support and job placement programs to those returning ISIS fighters... 😁

It sounds almost surreal when you consider that these are some of the most wanted individuals in all of Europe, but then again, that’s just how things work in Sweden. If they end up sidelined in isolated ghettos, they might only become more radicalized and less loyal to society. There is a certain danger in having unemployed immigrants with nothing to do all day and nothing left to lose; often, crime becomes the only path available to them...

The alternatives would be to strip them of their citizenship or establish a Swedish version of Guantanamo Bay, but this is Sweden, after all...

The real sticking point is how much the taxpayers in this socialist paradise should be footing the bill for radicals who actively fight against the very values—freedom, democracy, and tolerance—that Swedes hold sacred. It is worth noting that Scandinavian "progressivism" is arguably the most extreme in Europe, making it several magnitudes larger than what you see in France...
redridge35 redridge35 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#116 ·
frozenranger52 said:http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/komm...-is-krigare-1/

Sweden is actually planning to offer psychological support and job placement programs to those returning ISIS fighters... 😁

It sounds almost surreal when you consider that these are some of the most wanted individuals in all of Europe, but then again, that’s just how things work in Sweden. If they end up sidelined in isolated ghettos, they might only become more radicalized and less loyal to society. There is a certain danger in having unemployed immigrants with nothing to do all day and nothing left to lose; often, crime becomes the only path available to them...

The alternatives would be to strip them of their citizenship or establish a Swedish version of Guantanamo Bay, but this is Sweden, after all...

The real sticking point is how much the taxpayers in this socialist paradise should be footing the bill for radicals who actively fight against the very values—freedom, democracy, and tolerance—that Swedes hold sacred. It is worth noting that Scandinavian "progressivism" is arguably the most extreme in Europe, making it several magnitudes larger than what you see in France...

Honestly, these Swedes seriously need an intervention for their obsession with multiculturalism, otherwise, they might just watch their country fall apart under the weight of it all. 🤦
Anthony Taylor393 Anthony Taylor393 Member
38 messages
joined May 2016
#117 ·
The Audubon Society decided they're renaming some bird species because the old names had racist undertones.

🙏🙏
http://www.thelocal.se/20150220/raci...nned-by-sweden

I guess I'm getting a little worried about Sweden. Like, where are the Vikings when you actually need them?
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
158 messages
joined Oct 2016
#118 ·
They’ve honestly gone way too far with this nonsense. 🤦 I guess life is just too easy when you spend all your time on stuff like this 😁.
It never leads to anything good—but then again, fools rarely learn from anyone's mistakes but their own.

At this rate, they'll probably get bored and try to ban words like "black," "white," or "yellow" next, just because they relate to race.
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
66 messages
joined May 2017
#119 ·
It looks like more posts are being taken down...
Maybe a formal complaint from the Swedish Embassy?...
rapidmason22 rapidmason22 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2017
#120 ·
DANGEROUS GAMES OVER THE BALTIC SEA Swedish fighter jets intercept Russian nuclear bombers en route to the Åland Islands

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