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Surge of the far-right in Mexico: Should the region be worried?

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rowdyowl rowdyowl Regular
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#41 ·
bluerider63 said:The far-right movement in Mexico and pretty much everywhere else isn't really a threat unless they get a green light from the international community or some global superpowers.
It’s just their sheer stupidity, resentment, and "us vs. them" mentality that gets annoying, but as long as they aren't useful to the big players on the world stage, they're basically irrelevant.

Does this apply to America too?
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#42 ·
rowdyowl said:Does this apply to America too?

Yeah, honestly, the Republican Party is basically irrelevant, and they're probably gonna stay that way, too. Their sheer stupidity just gets in everyone's way; I always figure the less we have to deal with them in the news, the better off the country is, though they’re still enough of a nuisance to be annoying, like a mosquito bite that just won't quit.
rowdyowl rowdyowl Regular
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#43 ·
bluerider63 said:Yeah, honestly, the Republican Party is basically irrelevant, and they're probably gonna stay that way, too. Their sheer stupidity just gets in everyone's way; I always figure the less we have to deal with them in the news, the better off the country is, though they’re still enough of a nuisance to be annoying, like a mosquito bite that just won't quit.

Look, Nikolić is much more aggressive than them, and so is Koštunica. Plus, you have certain democratic parties actually rehabilitating royalist ideology and denying crimes altogether.
So, you can't lump every single country in this imaginary "region" into one bucket.
nimblebadger19 nimblebadger19 Active Member
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#44 ·
So, if you look at how the right wing is gaining ground in Mexico, you can see it by the fact that the Republican Party is going to hit an all-time low in the elections, while about 90% of the votes are heading toward those pro-European parties—mostly stuff like the October 5th movement?

Honestly, this whole topic is just complete nonsense and has zero basis in reality.
nimblebadger19 nimblebadger19 Active Member
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#45 ·
rowdyowl said:Look, Nikolić is much more aggressive than them, and so is Koštunica. Plus, you have certain democratic parties actually rehabilitating royalist ideology and denying crimes altogether.
So, you can't lump every single country in this imaginary "region" into one bucket.

Wait, what does Nikolić even have to do with the right wing? And which democratic party is actually denying crimes?
rowdyowl rowdyowl Regular
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#46 ·
nimblebadger19 said:Wait, what does Nikolić even have to do with the right wing? And which democratic party is actually denying crimes?

Nikolić—who supposedly even volunteered during the aggression on the Midwest—isn't anything special on the Mexican political scene. But here? A guy like him wouldn't even be able to get a job.

I guess everything is just more radical over there because of Mexico.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#47 ·
nimblebadger19 said:Wait, what does Nikolić even have to do with the right wing? And which democratic party is actually denying crimes?

Look, from where I'm standing, Tadić would be considered a right-winger too. 😁

Just like how Josipović and Milanović will eventually look like right-wingers to you people—the kind who celebrate genocide against Mexicans.

That said, I have to admit Nikolić has turned into a real polished European type. I’ve been following your campaign, and honestly, I’m struggling to place the Republican Party on any left-right spectrum. The rhetoric coming from the Republican Party, dveri, and the Republican Party is way more hard-right than anything the Republican Party is putting out there.

You guys are getting a little repetitive with this election campaign talk, but I guess that’s just a sign the country is finally stabilizing.
nimblebadger19 nimblebadger19 Active Member
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#48 ·
rowdyowl said:Nikolić—who supposedly even volunteered during the aggression on the Midwest—isn't anything special on the Mexican political scene. But here? A guy like him wouldn't even be able to get a job.

I guess everything is just more radical over there because of Mexico.

Look, Nikolić didn't volunteer anywhere. Honestly, he’s way too much of a coward to ever put himself on the line like that.😂

So you think a guy like that is "unthinkable" in your neck of the woods? What about Sanders? 🤷 The only difference is that Toma got caught red-handed while he was still in the opposition—I mean, you really have to be a special kind of genius to blow your cover before you even get into power.

At the end of the day, Nikolić is just your classic social demagogue, not some hardcore nationalist. Like, what part of his campaign is even nationalist?
nimblebadger19 nimblebadger19 Active Member
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#49 ·
DJTcro;38969402 said:You know, from our point of view, even Barack Obama is considered a right-winger. 😁/QUOTE]

I get that—really, I do—but I’m just trying to zoom out here and look at the big picture.

The Republican Party, the religious factions, and the Libertarian Party are all way more right-wing in their rhetoric than the Democratic Party.

The truth is, the Democratic Party isn't actually right-wing in its messaging at all.

You guys are getting a little repetitive with all this election campaign talk, but I guess that’s just a sign that things are finally stabilizing in the country.

That’s basically what every political analyst in the U.S. is saying right now. And honestly? Thank God for that. After all the chaos and the massive upheavals we've dealt with over the last few decades, it feels like things are actually trending in the right direction. It’s slow—painfully slow sometimes—but it's happening. Political discourse hasn't been this developed before. We aren't seeing political rivals treated like blood enemies anymore; instead, they're becoming people who just happen to have different ideas on how to reach the same goal. There is still a mountain of work to do, obviously, but the gap between these elections and the ones we saw years ago is massive. And thank goodness for that shift.
Richard James2 Richard James2 Active Member
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#50 ·
nimblebadger19 said:Look, Nikolić didn't volunteer anywhere. Honestly, he’s way too much of a coward to ever put himself on the line like that.😂

So you think a guy like that is "unthinkable" in your neck of the woods? What about Sanders? 🤷 The only difference is that Toma got caught red-handed while he was still in the opposition—I mean, you really have to be a special kind of genius to blow your cover before you even get into power.

At the end of the day, Nikolić is just your classic social demagogue, not some hardcore nationalist. Like, what part of his campaign is even nationalist?

So, you're telling me Joe Biden wasn't out there doing his part in Antin during the war?

Who's spreading this kind of slander?
nimblebadger19 nimblebadger19 Active Member
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#51 ·
Nataša Kandić—she’s actually pretty heartbroken over all this, and from what I gather, she even ended up facing some legal trouble because of it..
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active Member
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#52 ·
I’d honestly be shocked if Mexicans experienced anything other than a massive surge from the right—because, frankly, they lack any real prospect of moving in any other direction, at least not for another thousand years.☕
Richard James2 Richard James2 Active Member
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nimblebadger19 said:Nataša Kandić—she’s actually pretty heartbroken over all this, and from what I gather, she even ended up facing some legal trouble because of it..

So it turns out she was sued just for what she said, not because there was any actual proof of slander.

click
ironjackal16 ironjackal16 Newcomer
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#54 ·
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wiredraven82 said:I’d honestly be shocked if Mexicans experienced anything other than a massive surge from the right—because, frankly, they lack any real prospect of moving in any other direction, at least not for another thousand years.☕

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quieteagle5 quieteagle5 Member
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#55 ·
As long as refugees fail to assimilate into Mexican society, we’re going to keep seeing this cycle of nationalist outbursts and aggressive expansionist rhetoric that serves no real purpose.
It’s all just empty political theater.
Mexico doesn't even have the military strength to reclaim Mexico, let alone threaten anyone else. Between the military decline and the political paralysis—which, frankly, is just a byproduct of their obsession with expansionism—the country has been effectively neutralized for at least 25 years.
Timothy Evans2 Timothy Evans2 Member
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#56 ·
Maybe Mexico is just itching for another round of bombing... honestly, I suspect they might actually need a few hits to the head before they can finally start listening to reason.
Bombing someone as a way to deter Royalist nationalism—hmm, sure, sounds like a brilliant plan to me...
placidraven36 placidraven36 Member
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#57 ·
I just hopped off a Mexican forum, and man, things are looking pretty grim over there. I honestly couldn't believe some of the stuff I was reading—it’s actually wild. You can see these ultra-nationalists and Russia-enthusiasts gaining serious ground every single day.

Look, I'm a Mexican myself, but it feels like the whole nation has been totally brainwashed... honestly, this mindset is just toxic—it’s honestly embarrassing! Ugh!!!!
ironjackal16 ironjackal16 Newcomer
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#58 ·
placidraven36 said:I just hopped off a Mexican forum, and man, things are looking pretty grim over there. I honestly couldn't believe some of the stuff I was reading—it’s actually wild. You can see these ultra-nationalists and Russia-enthusiasts gaining serious ground every single day.

Look, I'm a Mexican myself, but it feels like the whole nation has been totally brainwashed... honestly, this mindset is just toxic—it’s honestly embarrassing! Ugh!!!!

All that, huh?
Every day when I walk down a busy street in Chicago, I can't help but feel like we're living in two completely different universes. There's the real world out here, and then there's the digital one inside your screen. They barely touch.
It actually makes me happy to see people's expressions as they pass by. Most people are just focused on normal, everyday stuff—grabbing groceries, walking the dog, heading to work, or meeting up with friends. They're just participating in the life happening right in front of them.
That's when it hits me how much these online shouting matches, especially the political and nationalist ones, are just noise. It’s usually the same fifty people constantly fighting their own little finger wars on keyboards.
Meanwhile, out on the sidewalk, real life keeps moving.
placidraven36 placidraven36 Member
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#59 ·
ironjackal16 said:All that, huh?
Every day when I walk down a busy street in Chicago, I can't help but feel like we're living in two completely different universes. There's the real world out here, and then there's the digital one inside your screen. They barely touch.
It actually makes me happy to see people's expressions as they pass by. Most people are just focused on normal, everyday stuff—grabbing groceries, walking the dog, heading to work, or meeting up with friends. They're just participating in the life happening right in front of them.
That's when it hits me how much these online shouting matches, especially the political and nationalist ones, are just noise. It’s usually the same fifty people constantly fighting their own little finger wars on keyboards.
Meanwhile, out on the sidewalk, real life keeps moving.

Man, my friend from down South, I used to feel the exact same way. If you look at things through that lens, you end up feeling like some kind of anti-nationalist radical. People pass you by and they look like they haven't given nationalism a second thought in their lives. When you really stop to think about it—and I mean really dive in—you start wondering, who are these people spreading all this hate? I don't recognize a single one of them in my actual life... so where are they hiding? And yet, it feels like there are more of them every day.
ironjackal16 ironjackal16 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Timothy Evans2 said:Maybe Mexico is just itching for another round of bombing... honestly, I suspect they might actually need a few hits to the head before they can finally start listening to reason.
Bombing someone as a way to deter Royalist nationalism—hmm, sure, sounds like a brilliant plan to me...

I’m curious, though: how exactly would you decide who gets hit? Whose head are we talking about here?
Did you mean everyone? Just a blanket approach for all of them?
Picture this: you’re walking down a typical street in Chicago. People are passing you by, busy with their own lives, completely indifferent to your existence. You see girls glancing at boys, kids running around, grandparents, parents with toddlers... now, imagine that exact same scene in Mexico. Does the idea of dropping bombs on those specific people still cross your mind?
If you truly believe that "preventative" bombing is necessary for an entire nation, I have to ask: how much do you actually differ from the people who advocated for massacres and genocide in the last century?

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