Brutal arrest, American style

Jacob Evans55 said:Something about this doesn't sit right with me.

First;

it’s anyone's guess who actually targeted the neighbor with the air rifle—was it kids or Krčmarek?
If they're claiming it was children, I’m calling BS. The video clearly shows
they're way too young for this kind of thing.

Second;

if Krčmarek is the one being accused of using the air rifle, a few logical holes pop up. Why would he even bother? And when would he have done it? He was out at the protest Saturday night, and the police didn't show up until Sunday. Unless this happened much earlier?

Third;

anyone who’s ever had to file a report knows how passive local law enforcement can be. They don't exactly break a sweat over minor disputes. Honestly, I find it hard to believe they’d swarm someone this aggressively just because a neighbor made a complaint. Cops deal with endless piles of neighbors tattling on each other every single day; if there isn't hard evidence or something major going on, they usually just brush it off to avoid dealing with petty neighborhood drama. 🙂

Fourth;

how does it work out that they raided Krčmarek's place exactly one day after the protest? And the fact that one of them wasn't even wearing a badge—is that just a coincidence too?!

The real question is, where is the air rifle? Why hasn't it been seized? And who is this neighbor who made the report? These days, anonymous tips aren't really a thing anymore...

..

This is actually pretty interesting.
I’m positive that even during a routine traffic stop, an officer isn't allowed to
pull you over without being in uniform and stating their reason, because if they don't, you technically aren't obligated to stop.
I'm not saying everyone actually follows the book like that, but if we're being strictly legal about it, that's how it works.

The whole thing feels a bit like intimidation to me, especially since the hosts reacted so perfectly in sync,
acting like they were playing the victim, almost as if they knew exactly why those guys showed up in the first place. That's just my take.

If these are actual cops, they should definitely be suspended
for acting so unprofessional, and honestly, they deserve a heavy fine.

Since there hasn't been an official police report released yet (at least none I've seen),
there's going to be plenty of room for people to speculate.

For now, it's just one massive, embarrassing display of misconduct by the cops, but we'll see how it plays out...

The pre-election "games" are officially underway—I’ve been spending quite a bit of time wading through the comment sections on various news sites lately, and frankly, it's exhausting. Everything feels like a calculated spin these days; it has become incredibly difficult to separate actual facts from the noise. It seems the primary goal for certain "individuals" is simply to crank up the tension among the public—don't let them get under your skin so easily. 😉

Jacob Evans55 said:Something about this doesn't sit right with me.

First;

it’s anyone's guess who actually targeted the neighbor with the air rifle—was it kids or Krčmarek?
If they're claiming it was children, I’m calling BS. The video clearly shows
they're way too young for this kind of thing.

Second;

if Krčmarek is the one being accused of using the air rifle, a few logical holes pop up. Why would he even bother? And when would he have done it? He was out at the protest Saturday night, and the police didn't show up until Sunday. Unless this happened much earlier?

Third;

anyone who’s ever had to file a report knows how passive local law enforcement can be. They don't exactly break a sweat over minor disputes. Honestly, I find it hard to believe they’d swarm someone this aggressively just because a neighbor made a complaint. Cops deal with endless piles of neighbors tattling on each other every single day; if there isn't hard evidence or something major going on, they usually just brush it off to avoid dealing with petty neighborhood drama. 🙂

Fourth;

how does it work out that they raided Krčmarek's place exactly one day after the protest? And the fact that one of them wasn't even wearing a badge—is that just a coincidence too?!

Fifth:
the harvest season ended a long time ago.😉

crimsonridge49 said:Fifth:
the harvest season ended a long time ago.😉

Maybe the neighbor filed a complaint a month back, and the police responded with their usual, leisurely pace. 😬

But seriously though: I just finished off the very last bit of salad made with homegrown tomatoes from my garden the day before yesterday. 🙂

Jacob Evans55 said:Something about this doesn't sit right with me.

First;

it’s anyone's guess who actually targeted the neighbor with the air rifle—was it kids or Krčmarek?
If they're claiming it was children, I’m calling BS. The video clearly shows
they're way too young for this kind of thing.

Second;

if Krčmarek is the one being accused of using the air rifle, a few logical holes pop up. Why would he even bother? And when would he have done it? He was out at the protest Saturday night, and the police didn't show up until Sunday. Unless this happened much earlier?

Third;

anyone who’s ever had to file a report knows how passive local law enforcement can be. They don't exactly break a sweat over minor disputes. Honestly, I find it hard to believe they’d swarm someone this aggressively just because a neighbor made a complaint. Cops deal with endless piles of neighbors tattling on each other every single day; if there isn't hard evidence or something major going on, they usually just brush it off to avoid dealing with petty neighborhood drama. 🙂

Fourth;

how does it work out that they raided Krčmarek's place exactly one day after the protest? And the fact that one of them wasn't even wearing a badge—is that just a coincidence too?!

Of course it’s not a coincidence. Johnson couldn't care less about wearing a badge if his life depended on it, and even the LAPD didn't bother addressing it in their official statement—they acted like it was perfectly normal behavior. 🙄

Good grief...

Just wonderful parenting right there—raising kids who go around blasting neighbors with rifles.

It starts with airsoft today, but you know it’ll be real firearms tomorrow.

😳

frozendrifter7 said:@ Eric Richardson49

From where I’m sitting—and I mean this quite literally—there was no actual, legitimate conversation taking place here. They failed to identify themselves properly, show any official credentials, or even state their business. That alone is more than enough justification to pull out your phone. Honestly, in certain parts of the country—or frankly, in most developed nations—people wouldn't just reach for a smartphone; they might reach for a shotgun.

Think about it: if someone knocks on your door dressed like a cop—but they have no badge, no hat, no warrant, and they’re just staring at you through sunglasses—what on earth would you do? Would you just... let them in?

This honestly reminds me of that one scene in Wire where Stringer Bell sends Wee Baya and his crew over to pick up Omar's kid from the Greek, all while pretending to be law enforcement. 😁

But seriously, I think we should just pass a law that stops the police from doing those random ID checks for no reason, kind of like how things are handled here.

Who knows? Maybe there are even cops involved from that "Not in the EU" group, especially if they’re following the ideology of Sačić's party... where you find all sorts of former and current "officers" in the membership, though I guess it's mostly the ex-cops.

Terry Kern5 said:The pre-election "games" are officially underway—I’ve been spending quite a bit of time wading through the comment sections on various news sites lately, and frankly, it's exhausting. Everything feels like a calculated spin these days; it has become incredibly difficult to separate actual facts from the noise. It seems the primary goal for certain "individuals" is simply to crank up the tension among the public—don't let them get under your skin so easily. 😉

The man wearing the beret and holding the flag in this photo is actually the subject of this entire thread.
http://i56.tinypic.com/1078f3q.jpg
This was a shot of the group during those protests back in the spring—on this particular occasion, they actually tried to divert the march toward a cathedral where people were praying. At first, they were all carrying crosses, but then they suddenly decided to just toss them into shopping carts at a Target. They seemed extremely sensitive about being on camera and would pose perfectly for any lens, even though they spent most of the actual protest bickering with one another and heckling other demonstrators, which ended up driving most people away from their vicinity.

It seems pretty obvious that they have a massive appetite for attention, whether it's through the media or otherwise.

Sarah Wilson95 said:The man wearing the beret and holding the flag in this photo is actually the subject of this entire thread.
http://i56.tinypic.com/1078f3q.jpg
This was a shot of the group during those protests back in the spring—on this particular occasion, they actually tried to divert the march toward a cathedral where people were praying. At first, they were all carrying crosses, but then they suddenly decided to just toss them into shopping carts at a Target. They seemed extremely sensitive about being on camera and would pose perfectly for any lens, even though they spent most of the actual protest bickering with one another and heckling other demonstrators, which ended up driving most people away from their vicinity.

It seems pretty obvious that they have a massive appetite for attention, whether it's through the media or otherwise.

To put it bluntly? This guy is just some right-wing thug who finally got a taste of his own medicine.

😳

Eric Collins5 said:To put it bluntly? This guy is just some right-wing thug who finally got a taste of his own medicine.

😳

If you've got the guts, let's go settle the score with those left-wing bullies. 🙄

I’m sick of this country, but honestly, I’m more disgusted by the people living in it. ☕

There’s a lot more to this than meets the eye;

- First off, where is this neighbor who supposedly filed the complaint?
- These kids are way too young to even hold an air rifle, let alone use one.
- Why is the police department claiming there's a warrant when there clearly isn't one?!
- And what gave them the right to trespass onto his property in the first place?
- From what I can tell, you're only allowed to use force under specific circumstances,
Smith didn't commit any crime, wasn't violent, and was merely offering
passive resistance.
- Filing a complaint against Smith for disturbing the peace,
while he was standing on his own damn property.
- Then they go after the person filming, which basically means I could get reported
if I filmed a cardinal on my porch with my phone.
- You can clearly hear Smith asking the officer why they were there,
which is a perfectly normal question, yet the cop loses it the moment he sees a camera.
- The police claim Smith insulted the officers, so if that were actually true, he’d be charged
with insulting a public official—but it simply didn't happen.
- Local news sites are already flooded with suspicious comments claiming the video
was edited to make it look like Smith was insulting the cops to justify
their little stunt.

In my view, the police were sent in on an intimidation mission that blew up once the camera started rolling and things spiraled out of control.
The government just didn't want some veteran organizing protests right before the election.

Eric Collins5 said:Good grief...

Just wonderful parenting right there—raising kids who go around blasting neighbors with rifles.

It starts with airsoft today, but you know it’ll be real firearms tomorrow.

😳

Can you at least give us a hint about what kind of air rifle they actually seized?

hollowtrucker77 said:Can you at least give us a hint about what kind of air rifle they actually seized?

Even if he could,

would that actually prove the kids were firing it?

And even if they were, does that give a cop the right to barge into someone's backyard and act like this? ☕

I don't know, I was under the impression we had things like courts, laws, and due process. Has anyone in this circus ever heard of those concepts? Honestly, it seems like the neighbor's only mistake was calling the cops instead of just handing them a heavy dose of street justice, calling up his buddies, and teaching that guy a lesson for failing to raise his own kids properly. 🤦 Just the way we do things back home. 🤦 Let him feel a little bit of that payback.

Eric Collins5 said:To put it bluntly? This guy is just some right-wing thug who finally got a taste of his own medicine.

😳

I wouldn't quite put it that way myself, because honestly, the whole situation feels incredibly muddled and it’s a real struggle to wrap your head around what everyone is actually thinking or planning. But if you strip everything else away, the fundamental question we have to address is why on earth the police have been dragged into this mess in such an utterly bizarre fashion.🤷

Jacob Evans55 said:There’s a lot more to this than meets the eye;

- First off, where is this neighbor who supposedly filed the complaint?
- These kids are way too young to even hold an air rifle, let alone use one.
- Why is the police department claiming there's a warrant when there clearly isn't one?!
- And what gave them the right to trespass onto his property in the first place?
- From what I can tell, you're only allowed to use force under specific circumstances,
Smith didn't commit any crime, wasn't violent, and was merely offering
passive resistance.
- Filing a complaint against Smith for disturbing the peace,
while he was standing on his own damn property.
- Then they go after the person filming, which basically means I could get reported
if I filmed a cardinal on my porch with my phone.
- You can clearly hear Smith asking the officer why they were there,
which is a perfectly normal question, yet the cop loses it the moment he sees a camera.
- The police claim Smith insulted the officers, so if that were actually true, he’d be charged
with insulting a public official—but it simply didn't happen.
- Local news sites are already flooded with suspicious comments claiming the video
was edited to make it look like Smith was insulting the cops to justify
their little stunt.

In my view, the police were sent in on an intimidation mission that blew up once the camera started rolling and things spiraled out of control.
The government just didn't want some veteran organizing protests right before the election.

Honestly, you hit the nail on the head!

Our elite class basically signed a deal with the European Union just to save their own skins, regardless of how much that whole entity is falling apart right in front of us. A government that's already handed over our heroes doesn't see any issue with arresting veterans or setting up these little mini-tribunals. It's obvious this political crowd decided they need to quietly settle scores with the veterans who actually still stand up for national interests—they've embraced this dirty, traitorous playbook.

We're seeing firsthand how the police can just ignore the rules, ditching the badge and the respect, and go full thug mode on citizens who actually love this country.Let all the Euro-skeptics see exactly what's coming for them.It's pathetic and shameful. But hey, what do you expect from a government that extradites its most decorated generals to The Hague? And what do you expect from a public that keeps handing their trust back to the very people doing the extraditing?

Are we really expecting this sold-out crew to protect our national interests??

Like I've said plenty of times on this forum, we're gonna pay dearly for the European Union!
we're gonna pay dearly for the European Union! we're gonna pay dearly for the European Union! we're gonna pay dearly for the European Union! we're gonna pay dearly for the European Union! we're gonna pay dearly for the European Union! ...

We used to sing about a leader rising up; nowadays, we should be singing for Franjo to rise up, because this country desperately needs him, and so does a people that's already lost in a thick fog...

Dennis Bailey2 said:Even if he could,

would that actually prove the kids were firing it?

And even if they were, does that give a cop the right to barge into someone's backyard and act like this? ☕

I don't know, I was under the impression we had things like courts, laws, and due process. Has anyone in this circus ever heard of those concepts? Honestly, it seems like the neighbor's only mistake was calling the cops instead of just handing them a heavy dose of street justice, calling up his buddies, and teaching that guy a lesson for failing to raise his own kids properly. 🤦 Just the way we do things back home. 🤦 Let him feel a little bit of that payback.

yeah, that would mean the police acted correctly
if someone is doing something dangerous, the police have every right and duty to rush in and clear the situation out
but primarily, that means they should act professionally and establish the facts before taking action

Dennis Bailey2 said:Even if he could,

would that actually prove the kids were firing it?

And even if they were, does that give a cop the right to barge into someone's backyard and act like this? ☕

I don't know, I was under the impression we had things like courts, laws, and due process. Has anyone in this circus ever heard of those concepts? Honestly, it seems like the neighbor's only mistake was calling the cops instead of just handing them a heavy dose of street justice, calling up his buddies, and teaching that guy a lesson for failing to raise his own kids properly. 🤦 Just the way we do things back home. 🤦 Let him feel a little bit of that payback.

Even if they can't pull it off, it doesn't mean they aren't actually there. 🤷

Dennis Bailey2 said:Even if he could,

would that actually prove the kids were firing it?

And even if they were, does that give a cop the right to barge into someone's backyard and act like this? ☕

I don't know, I was under the impression we had things like courts, laws, and due process. Has anyone in this circus ever heard of those concepts? Honestly, it seems like the neighbor's only mistake was calling the cops instead of just handing them a heavy dose of street justice, calling up his buddies, and teaching that guy a lesson for failing to raise his own kids properly. 🤦 Just the way we do things back home. 🤦 Let him feel a little bit of that payback.

It’s not even about whether they ought to be responsible; it’s about whether they’re actually allowed to be. That’s the only question that matters here. All this other stuff people are bringing up—like waiting for tomatoes to ripen or worrying about how tall a kid needs to be to hold a nebulizer—is just noise. It’s all just a bunch of vague, pointless distractions from the actual point. 🙄

Look, everyone needs to just accept it once and for all—and I’m looking at you, Turbulent Fluid—there is absolutely no point in trying to argue that Krčmarek is some innocent little lamb. He isn't. But the real issue here is... When we talk about how the police operate in a true constitutional democracy, things get interesting. It’s not just about catching the bad guys; it’s about the framework that keeps everything from sliding into chaos. In a country like America, the whole point of having a legal system is to ensure that power isn't just exercised on a whim. There has to be accountability. You can't just have officers acting as judge, jury, and executioner without any oversight. I was thinking about this the other day while watching a documentary about civil rights litigation. It really drives home the fact that in a free society, the rules apply to the enforcers just as much as they apply to the citizens. When the police act outside those boundaries, it doesn't just hurt the individual involved—it erodes the trust that holds the entire community together. If people don't believe the badge represents fairness, then the social contract starts to fray at the edges. It’s a delicate balance, honestly. You need effective law enforcement to maintain order, but you also need strict checks and balances to prevent overreach. It shouldn't be an "either-or" situation. We should be able to demand both public safety and absolute adherence to the rule of law. It’s easy to get caught up in the heated debates you see on the news, but when you strip away the noise, it really comes down to whether or not the institutions are actually following the playbook we wrote for them. Keeping that standard high is the only way to ensure the system remains legitimate.It’s not even about pointing fingers or deciding who’s at fault here—it's really just about figuring out who's actually right. 🙄

hollowtrucker77 said:yeah, that would mean the police acted correctly
if someone is doing something dangerous, the police have every right and duty to rush in and clear the situation out
but primarily, that means they should act professionally and establish the facts before taking action

First off, the officers weren't even on the scene while the shooting was actually happening, so they didn't have any grounds to just "rush in" at that point.

Second, if you watch the video, it’s pretty obvious the officer isn't following any standard operating procedure. This wasn't a planned tactical move; it looks purely impulsive, like he just lost his cool because someone was filming him.