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The American Dream - A $5 Billion Project!

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nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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#41 ·
Honestly, looking at photos of these kinds of "developments" just gives me the creeps—it’s a visceral reaction. I can't wrap my head around the type of people who would actually choose to vacation in these hideous, grotesque complexes. It feels like something out of a fever dream.
goldenpilot15 goldenpilot15 Member
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#42 ·
I mean, this whole complex seems absolutely wild to me. Just who exactly is the target demographic here—the absolute top tier of the elite? I’m talking about people who already own massive estates around Lake Tahoe or sprawling castles tucked away in Germany and France. Who are they building this for?
I honestly have no idea what they're thinking.
frozenheron35 frozenheron35 Member
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#43 ·
Regarding the open letter published in the media by Vicenzo Blagajić—where he's basically calling out the Secretary of Housing, Marina Matulović Dropulić, to halt his "American Dream" project worth 1.5 billion euros—Jadranka Kosor suggested he just reach out to Secretary Dropulić directly so they can talk it through.

source: www.gOP.hr/default.aspx?id=1704

I'm really curious to see what that "dialogue" actually looks like, especially after everything Vicenzo has already said...
crimsongardener17 crimsongardener17 Member
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#44 ·
Just dropping some info here so this thread doesn't die out. It would be a damn shame if, in five or ten years, we couldn't dig through the archives to present this topic as a witness to an era in the States—a monument to sheer human stupidity from back when various snake oil salesmen basically owned the media landscape. And get this: this guy actually had the backing of Kosorica, Popijač, Vlahušić, and the entire county assembly...😵..:

Vicenzo Blagajić: ‘The American Dream’ turns into a sinkhole

In five to ten years, when the site at Three Sisters is still nothing but a pile of rubble, some people will be laughing while others are crying... personally, I think I'll just enjoy a good, sweet laugh...☕
Betty Palmer8 Betty Palmer8 Member
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#45 ·
Quote:>
crimsongardener17 says:
Just dropping some context here so this thread doesn't die out—it would be a tragedy if we couldn't dig this up in 5 or 10 years to serve as a historical record of how things used to be in the States. Think of it as a monument to pure human stupidity—back when various snake-oil salesmen basically owned the media landscape (and get this: this guy actually had the backing of Kosorica, Popijač, Vlahušić, and the entire county assembly...) 😵...:

Vicenzo Blagajić: ‘American Dream’ turns into a disaster>

In 5-10 years, when the site is still nothing but piles of dirt and rubble, some people will be laughing while others cry... personally? I'm just going to have a good laugh...☕
I'm dying to know what they mean by a "soon" start to construction... 🥳>
Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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#46 ·
The ultimate American dream is just paving over every inch of the Atlantic coastline to cram in a billion luxury condos and golf courses for the ultra-rich.👍
Betty Palmer8 Betty Palmer8 Member
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#47 ·
Henry Cox78 said:The ultimate American dream is just paving over every inch of the Atlantic coastline to cram in a billion luxury condos and golf courses for the ultra-rich.👍

And for some people—those who stand to profit from it—it is just as much so.

It’s not going to lead to anything regardless—but I would honestly love to see a detailed blueprint of what this "vision" actually looks like, complete with specific building designs and all that. If they’ve actually brought in world-class architects like Lovekind, then maybe we'd see some interesting solutions. Still, I just can't get behind it for that area—California has its own unique charm that needs to be preserved, rather than being turned into some miniature version of Dubai or something else entirely. 1.2 miles Honestly—they’ll never reach the heights of a place like Venice.

Perhaps a few of the buildings slated for this project could be relocated to Washington, D.C.—for instance. Actually... maybe the entire project should just be moved to the Thorn district in Washington, D.C.!? 😁
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#48 ·
Henry Cox78 said:The ultimate American dream is just paving over every inch of the Atlantic coastline to cram in a billion luxury condos and golf courses for the ultra-rich.👍

And he managed to sum up the entire disaster in just two sentences!
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#49 ·
Betty Palmer8 said:Quote:>
crimsongardener17 says:
Just dropping some context here so this thread doesn't die out—it would be a tragedy if we couldn't dig this up in 5 or 10 years to serve as a historical record of how things used to be in the States. Think of it as a monument to pure human stupidity—back when various snake-oil salesmen basically owned the media landscape (and get this: this guy actually had the backing of Kosorica, Popijač, Vlahušić, and the entire county assembly...) 😵...:

Vicenzo Blagajić: ‘American Dream’ turns into a disaster>

In 5-10 years, when the site is still nothing but piles of dirt and rubble, some people will be laughing while others cry... personally? I'm just going to have a good laugh...☕
I'm dying to know what they mean by a "soon" start to construction... 🥳>

Hey Betty Palmer8, where have you been hiding? And look at you, changing up the avatar too. Typical. 😁
Betty Palmer8 Betty Palmer8 Member
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#50 ·
gentleranger10 said:Hey Betty Palmer8, where have you been hiding? And look at you, changing up the avatar too. Typical. 😁

Where have *you* been? Haven't you noticed? I've had it for two or three months now... and you've clearly had a bit of a makeover yourself. 😁

So, are you finally back in Washington, D.C., or are you turning into one of those expats living abroad? 😁
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#51 ·
Betty Palmer8 said:Where have *you* been? Haven't you noticed? I've had it for two or three months now... and you've clearly had a bit of a makeover yourself. 😁

So, are you finally back in Washington, D.C., or are you turning into one of those expats living abroad? 😁

I'm definitely back in D.C., though everything else has gone completely to hell. 😁
Betty Palmer8 Betty Palmer8 Member
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#52 ·
gentleranger10 said:I'm definitely back in D.C., though everything else has gone completely to hell. 😁

Everywhere has its charm, but there’s truly no place like home. 🙂
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#53 ·
Betty Palmer8 said:Everywhere has its charm, but there’s truly no place like home. 🙂

Man,
that's the gospel truth. 😁
goldenpilot15 goldenpilot15 Member
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#54 ·
Betty Palmer8 said:And for some people—those who stand to profit from it—it is just as much so.

It’s not going to lead to anything regardless—but I would honestly love to see a detailed blueprint of what this "vision" actually looks like, complete with specific building designs and all that. If they’ve actually brought in world-class architects like Lovekind, then maybe we'd see some interesting solutions. Still, I just can't get behind it for that area—California has its own unique charm that needs to be preserved, rather than being turned into some miniature version of Dubai or something else entirely. 1.2 miles Honestly—they’ll never reach the heights of a place like Venice.

Perhaps a few of the buildings slated for this project could be relocated to Washington, D.C.—for instance. Actually... maybe the entire project should just be moved to the Thorn district in Washington, D.C.!? 😁

Look, those architects he’s talking about? They aren't building anything remotely close to that level of nonsense. Honestly, it just feels like pure foolishness—a blatant attempt to mask some deep-seated inferiority complex. Take the coast in HR, for instance; the architecture there is worth a hundred times more than anything they're putting up in Dubai. Seriously, props to Bruce or whatever that Arab fellow's name is, but come on. Just give me one beautiful Gothic-Renaissance summer villa in Florida or near Venice, and I won't ask you for another thing until Judgment Day.🙏(If we’re really going to talk about luxury...)
What about this whole project and all that talk about luxury? Honestly, it feels like a total waste of time. You don't achieve true luxury just by throwing ten different hotels onto a map, right? Real luxury isn't about quantity or how many buildings you can cram into one area. It’s about quality—it's about the details. At its core, luxury is defined by rarity. If everyone can have it, is it even luxury anymore?
Megan Lewis45 Megan Lewis45 Newcomer
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#55 ·
A total fairy tale. I'm not buying it.
crimsongardener17 crimsongardener17 Member
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#56 ·
The "Investor" Project

"Where on earth are these investors who were supposedly lining up just because this project was allegedly designed by "the most renowned architects and consultants from America and around the world" (will they actually bother to publish those prestigious names in an ad next time?) once it finally gets the green light and the necessary acreage for development (since 30 hectares was nowhere near enough to make the math work)?
Dreams have a nasty habit of blurring reality. There’s an old saying for it: "If you dream it, you can believe it." But does the dream ever actually manifest? Eventually, the waking world hits. With Orc, it was a brutal crash landing. So, what’s actually going to be left of this supposed "American dream" over at the sister site?"


Does the lady in question not realize that the investor is actually Santa Claus?😁
I suppose he'll just show up in December and drop 5 billion euros... even Dubai will look like a pauper compared to this...🙏
crimsongardener17 crimsongardener17 Member
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#57 ·
We were particularly interested in verifying the claims Blagay is pitching to foreign investors, specifically the idea that this whole "American Dream" project is slated for a massive 5,000-hectare plot of land. According to his pitch, we’re looking at a sprawling empire of hotels, a casino, two marinas, a business park, a film studio, a theme park, sports arenas, recreation centers, museums, a vineyard, and five different golf courses.

Except instead of 5,000 hectares, it’s actually just 40!!!

"After several rounds of discussions with the investor and public hearings regarding the amendments to the Dubrovnik-Neretva County spatial plan, a 40-hectare tourist zone has been added at the Thorn location, which allows for the construction of hotels and apartments (zones T1 and T2). There is also provision for a nautical tourism marina with up to 400 berths. You could potentially tack on a golf course of about 100 hectares," Dobroslavic told Index, noting that it’s unlikely any actual construction on a golf course would happen anytime soon.

In fact, he pointed out that given the bureaucratic nightmare of amending spatial plans followed by the actual permitting process, there is very little chance any of this will materialize by the end of the year.

As for what exactly Blagay was "selling" to those Americans? Unfortunately, we couldn't get a straight answer from the man himself. We were simply told that he is still currently in the USA.

5,000 hectares! 😂
What was he selling to the Americans? Pure smoke and mirrors, obviously...☕
crimsongardener17 crimsongardener17 Member
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#58 ·
According to his grand announcements, construction was supposed to kick off sometime this year. ...

Today: So, did they actually break ground?...

2012...Are we finally seeing some movement on this?..
2013...Is anything actually happening now?...
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2020...Well, any sign of progress yet?...
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2050...Total disaster, an asteroid hits Earth!, and we still haven't seen a single bit of that American Dream coming true..🙂

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