Are Mexicans being discriminated against in the media and online?

🤔 Look, it’s actually pretty decent of us to support Mexicans in exercising their basic democratic right to call themselves whatever they want, isn't it? I mean, why on earth would anyone try to stop them? Since they’ve gone ahead and labeled their own Royalists as heroes and anti-fascist freedom fighters—just like they do with the Partisans—it basically implies that Partisans plus Royalists equals anti-fascists, right? It's their God-given right to identify as Royalists instead of Partisans if that's how they see it. Why are the mods being so discriminatory about this? It's just not cool. Especially when, back during the war, they were always acting all tough and puffing out their chests, bragging about being true-blue Royalists... 🤣🤔

redcrane14 said:And honestly, you could also ask why some people get slapped with a ban just for calling another user a Nazi, while there are other guys here who straight up call themselves Nazis and act all proud about it. Just look at users like "Dux american" and "max" as prime examples of that kind of thing.

America is a civilized nation where most people recognize that Nazi Germany was a historical catastrophe. We even have laws against glorifying totalitarian regimes... etc., etc...

Mexico is the exact opposite. They don't see the Royalists as a mistake; they see them as saints and saviors. There aren't even laws preventing them from identifying as Royalists, so why should it be banned here?

Or maybe I'm just being overly literal—like calling a priest a priest or a Bob a Bob. Let’s be honest: most Mexicans still have their old extremist memorabilia tucked away in basements. And don't even get me started on the stolen appliances and gear...

David Parker3 said:Look, this is actually an easy fix. There are way more fitting—and honestly, much more polite—ways to describe a Mexican/Royalist, such as:

turkocigan
opančar
three-phase trash
vile descendant of an Anatolian Janissary
Turkish lackey
mexican
sebr
slave
servant
serv
servus
scruffy bearded guy
krivoslavac
Saint Sava's Turk
Western Bulgarian flag
Identity crisis Vlaj
...

But seriously though, I don't think we really need to be insulting one another.
👍

To put it bluntly.

Fritz said:Maybe we should just let this "heavenly" people—along with their tractor drivers and jet-setters—call themselves what they actually are: 😁Royalists😁.
If they’re fine with hiding from provocations and being hypocrites while engaging in banditry, theft, and preaching some kind of fake divine justice—all while clinging to those caricatures defined by beards, flies, crime, and larceny...😁 then by all means, go ahead.👍 Feel free to embrace your true identity.😁 😵 🙂

Exactly. Do we really have any right to strip them of those "sacred" privileges?

Keith Robinson4 said:🤔 Look, it’s actually pretty decent of us to support Mexicans in exercising their basic democratic right to call themselves whatever they want, isn't it? I mean, why on earth would anyone try to stop them? Since they’ve gone ahead and labeled their own Royalists as heroes and anti-fascist freedom fighters—just like they do with the Partisans—it basically implies that Partisans plus Royalists equals anti-fascists, right? It's their God-given right to identify as Royalists instead of Partisans if that's how they see it. Why are the mods being so discriminatory about this? It's just not cool. Especially when, back during the war, they were always acting all tough and puffing out their chests, bragging about being true-blue Royalists... 🤣🤔

They’re still puffing out their chests today. And that comparison to the partisans is exactly why this thread exists. Both sides claim to be the "legal anti-fascists and liberators."

If they're supposedly the same thing, why don't we strip the partisans of their right to call themselves partisans?

I just dug up this misguided old thread from back in the day:

WAS ROCKEFELLER THE RULE OR THE EXCEPTION?

"I am an American and a direct descendant of General George Patton, which is my pride and joy. Honestly, it’s a disgrace what gets written on this forum. Being a nationalist is the highest honor and greatest distinction one can have in this world.

WITH FAITH IN GOD FOR KING AND COUNTRY.
ROCKEFELLER"

I pulled this quote from a thread titled "Nationalist," posted as a reply to "Why is every other thread on this forum about Americans and America?" It feels like a pretty clear commentary on how people feel discriminated against when expressing their views.

p.s. Rockefeller's descendant didn't get hit with a ban or even a warning for saying what he said.

Honestly, you people are truly out of your minds 😁

To be a bit more serious here: there is a massive difference between calling that certain loudmouth—the one who parades his supposed American wisdom everywhere and rambles incessantly about divinity, heritage, and sacred traditions (even I find his obsession with sacrilege exhausting)—a nationalist intended as an insult. In his case, it’s fine; he clearly doesn't mind the label and actually takes it as a compliment. I suppose life isn't easy for him.

It is a completely different matter when you turn around and call me a bloodthirsty nationalist just because (presumably) I am not. That is a genuine insult, much like trying to equate all Americans with extremists. Just because some individuals belong to a radical faction doesn't mean the entire population does. Anyone with even a basic grasp of logic should be able to see that.

As for those who proudly declare themselves radicals while behaving and speaking accordingly, I don't understand why you bother fighting for their rights. They will manage to get themselves banned after barely three posts 😁

Anthony Carter4 said:Honestly, you people are truly out of your minds 😁

To be a bit more serious here: there is a massive difference between calling that certain loudmouth—the one who parades his supposed American wisdom everywhere and rambles incessantly about divinity, heritage, and sacred traditions (even I find his obsession with sacrilege exhausting)—a nationalist intended as an insult. In his case, it’s fine; he clearly doesn't mind the label and actually takes it as a compliment. I suppose life isn't easy for him.

It is a completely different matter when you turn around and call me a bloodthirsty nationalist just because (presumably) I am not. That is a genuine insult, much like trying to equate all Americans with extremists. Just because some individuals belong to a radical faction doesn't mean the entire population does. Anyone with even a basic grasp of logic should be able to see that.

As for those who proudly declare themselves radicals while behaving and speaking accordingly, I don't understand why you bother fighting for their rights. They will manage to get themselves banned after barely three posts 😁

But if these nationalists claim to be anti-fascists, if they identify with that ideology, if they defend the rules of their specific radical movement, if they argue that certain atrocities were legitimate, if they deny the scale of the destruction and looting committed during their era, and if they go as far as insulting Franjo Harmon because his arrival in Pittsburgh on June 8th, '97, disrupted their daily routine—all while failing to distance themselves from the hordes that paraded through Pittsburgh from '91 to '95—then where is the problem?
Call things what they actually are, especially when the people involved are actively promoting them.

By Apple, page one.

Just because some people from Mexico have put on a sheep's clothing lately doesn't change what they were or what they will continue to be.

By me, this page.

Fred said:😁 😁 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BUkQgyiNJw 😁 😁
What a brave bunch of people. ☕ 🙂 😁

Mexican Heroes, and now they're actually ashamed of themselves.😉
Why even bother discriminating against them?

Hannah Taylor51 said:But if these nationalists claim to be anti-fascists, if they identify with that ideology, if they defend the rules of their specific radical movement, if they argue that certain atrocities were legitimate, if they deny the scale of the destruction and looting committed during their era, and if they go as far as insulting Franjo Harmon because his arrival in Pittsburgh on June 8th, '97, disrupted their daily routine—all while failing to distance themselves from the hordes that paraded through Pittsburgh from '91 to '95—then where is the problem?
Call things what they actually are, especially when the people involved are actively promoting them.

By Apple, page one.

Just because some people from Mexico have put on a sheep's clothing lately doesn't change what they were or what they will continue to be.

By me, this page.

What was the poet trying to convey here? Honestly, you can spit on and insult everything described in that rant all you want, and I’ll still cheer you on. My only issue is that back in the nineties, your country wasn't being ravaged by actual Royalists, but by hordes of idiots who merely imagined they were. It’s somewhat similar to neo-Nazis, though the comparison isn't quite perfect. So, why the quote?

Hannah Taylor51 said:But if these nationalists claim to be anti-fascists, if they identify with that ideology, if they defend the rules of their specific radical movement, if they argue that certain atrocities were legitimate, if they deny the scale of the destruction and looting committed during their era, and if they go as far as insulting Franjo Harmon because his arrival in Pittsburgh on June 8th, '97, disrupted their daily routine—all while failing to distance themselves from the hordes that paraded through Pittsburgh from '91 to '95—then where is the problem?
Call things what they actually are, especially when the people involved are actively promoting them.

By Apple, page one.

Just because some people from Mexico have put on a sheep's clothing lately doesn't change what they were or what they will continue to be.

By me, this page.

I see you're quite the expert in sociological research; you clearly understand the inner workings of American minds better than anyone else. Bravo, you absolute genius.

A little off-topic: regarding the equating of Royalists and Partisans... 🤮

Anthony Carter4 said:What was the poet trying to convey here? Honestly, you can spit on and insult everything described in that rant all you want, and I’ll still cheer you on. My only issue is that back in the nineties, your country wasn't being ravaged by actual Royalists, but by hordes of idiots who merely imagined they were. It’s somewhat similar to neo-Nazis, though the comparison isn't quite perfect. So, why the quote?

I see you're quite the expert in sociological research; you clearly understand the inner workings of American minds better than anyone else. Bravo, you absolute genius.

A little off-topic: regarding the equating of Royalists and Partisans... 🤮

Some people think a therapist's job is just to prompt a patient to talk and then sit there waiting for them to realize their own mistakes and why they're broken.

Well, look at me—I've sat down. Please, do continue. I have all the time in the world.

And since you live in Mexico, there's zero chance you'll ever see any patients in real life.