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2018 Car Reveal and Pre-season Testing

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Participants Kyle Edwards5neonfox65darkmarlin16mellowtiger83Tyler Bennett5stormybadger8Brandon Evans5stormytiger4James Harris34placidtinker39Brian Campbell36Linda Peterson43Terry Carter2Amanda Kellyhiddensailor7northerncobra31Jason Campbell70ruggedhawk20cosmiccyclist8jadeseal7Susan Jones8Casey Hill57analogpilot16Gerald Patel …
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#121 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:The same logic applied to the McLaren rear suspension back in the '14 season.
Or even the Ferrari front end from '12.

The Mercedes approach is primarily logical; at first glance, it looks smart. Still, I’ll wait through the first few races before making a final call.

My apologies—the driver is good. Just one.

The second one? A total joke and a complete laughingstock.

Look, it's a fair point whether this turns out to be a good or bad suspension setup...
If it sucks, nobody's going to bother copying it. But even if it ends up being great—maybe even incredible—nobody's likely to replicate it before the 2019 season anyway.
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#122 ·
jadeseal7 said:Huge congrats to Ferrari on clinching the 2018 title! 🙏🎉

Which one though—constructors'?
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#123 ·
jadeseal7 said:Once again, huge congratulations to Ferrari.

A quick look at the 2017 vs. 2018 comparison:

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Wait, weren't you the one talking trash during testing last year? You were insisting Ferrari was showing enough form to rival Mercedes, only to flip the script mid-season and start preaching about how dominant Mercedes really is...🤦
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#124 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:What exactly was wrong with what he said?
Caster and camber are basic concepts for anyone who has ever actually sat down to play a serious driving sim.

I am perfectly aware of what Caster and Camber are, and I know my way around just about every serious racing simulator out there.

Every single suspension setup involves Caster and Camber.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#125 ·
James Harris34 said:Ford looks great with that new livery, but looking good doesn't mean they're actually the fastest car on the grid. They’ll need to be totally dominant, similar to how things were back in 2002 or 2004, if Lewis Hamilton is going to pull off a championship win in it.

Yeah, sure—laugh it up. It's always the absolute clowns who start celebrating a Ferrari championship before preseason testing even kicks off just because they like the paint job.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#126 ·
mellowtiger83 said:I am perfectly aware of what Caster and Camber are, and I know my way around just about every serious racing simulator out there.

Every single suspension setup involves Caster and Camber.

Give me a break, man.

You were too cheap to even drop $150 a year for an iRacing subscription, so you just stuck to the free stuff.

Buying the full iRacing library will run you about $2,000. A decent rig to actually run a sim properly? Another $2,000. A solid wheel setup is probably around $667. Then you’d need a triple monitor setup... plus telemetry software... Get it? You’re just too broke to get serious about sim racing.
analogpilot16 analogpilot16 Member
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#127 ·
It’s honestly such a pleasure reading how you all nitpick every single little detail—and how everyone manages to agree on the fact that they can't agree on anything—even though we haven't even finished a single day of testing yet.
I really missed this kind of energy.🍿
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#128 ·
mellowtiger83 said:I am perfectly aware of what Caster and Camber are, and I know my way around just about every serious racing simulator out there.

Every single suspension setup involves Caster and Camber.

Which is pretty obvious from what was provided.
Gerald Patel Gerald Patel Newcomer
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#129 ·
https://www.f1puls.com/25013/ferrari...nicka-analiza/

A deep dive into the technical side of Ferrari

Sent from my SM-N910C via Tapatalk
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#130 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Which is pretty obvious from what was provided.

Let’s sum this up: Tibi asks about the mechanics of the Mercedes suspension, and then ruggedhawk20 just blithely claims it's all about Camber.

But you all are clearly geniuses, please, do carry on.

Then, naturally, ruggedhawk20 concludes that he is somehow superior to other sim racers simply because he plays iRacing and happens to have a passion for expensive gear.

Bravo.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#131 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Let’s sum this up: Tibi asks about the mechanics of the Mercedes suspension, and then ruggedhawk20 just blithely claims it's all about Camber.

But you all are clearly geniuses, please, do carry on.

Then, naturally, ruggedhawk20 concludes that he is somehow superior to other sim racers simply because he plays iRacing and happens to have a passion for expensive gear.

Bravo.

Congrats, you've officially made it to the finals for the dumbest post of the day.

And you're in it alongside the author of this piece:
cosmiccyclist8 cosmiccyclist8 Active Member
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#132 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Congrats, you've officially made it to the finals for the dumbest post of the day.

And you're in it alongside the author of this piece:

Ferrari—who hasn't seen a championship title since back in 2008—has returned to that signature "all-red livery" (basically liver color) for their car, which is pretty much the biggest visual change we've seen compared to how they looked back in 2017.

And then they go and make it even bolder 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#133 ·
A deep, liver red. 🙂
Kyle Edwards5 Kyle Edwards5 Active MemberOP
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#134 ·
For the love of God, can we please just stop calling everyone else's posts stupid? Seriously. Thanks! 👍
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#135 ·
Why does this forum allow one individual to operate under two separate profiles??

Well, my situation is slightly different; occasionally, someone else even posts using my own handle! However, the practice of one person utilizing two different nicknames is simply unacceptable.

I appreciate you taking this observation into consideration.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#136 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Congrats, you've officially made it to the finals for the dumbest post of the day.

And you're in it alongside the author of this piece:

As per usual, there is no point in debating this. It doesn't matter if we're talking about Caster, Camber, toe-in, or toe-out; we are dealing with an utterly incoherent response to Tibi's question, and I don't expect you to grasp why.

If you look at the technical section of the GP1 forums from a few years back, you'll find all the actual answers. You also have your own share of gems there, so perhaps take a trip down memory lane.
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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#137 ·
Ferrari narrowed the car's profile to ensure they don't run into the same issues they faced in Singapore... 🙂 🙂
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#138 ·
I’m honestly not buying the idea that the car is actually that much narrower...
At least based on those 2017/2018 side-by-side comparisons you see floating around online...

Before they bumped up the wheelbase by pushing the front axle forward, looking at the car from a head-on angle makes it look like it's been drastically slimmed down...
But if you check out an aerial comparison, there isn't really such a massive narrowing compared to what those front-view shots suggest...

https://www.racefans.net/2018/02/22/...mula+1+Blog%29

When you view it from the front, the impression is that the slimming is huge...
But once you switch to a bird's-eye view, the only truly significant narrowing is at the rear; there’s some at the front too, but it’s nowhere near as extreme as it looks at first glance...
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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#139 ·
stormybadger8 said:I’m honestly not buying the idea that the car is actually that much narrower...
At least based on those 2017/2018 side-by-side comparisons you see floating around online...

Before they bumped up the wheelbase by pushing the front axle forward, looking at the car from a head-on angle makes it look like it's been drastically slimmed down...
But if you check out an aerial comparison, there isn't really such a massive narrowing compared to what those front-view shots suggest...

https://www.racefans.net/2018/02/22/...mula+1+Blog%29

When you view it from the front, the impression is that the slimming is huge...
But once you switch to a bird's-eye view, the only truly significant narrowing is at the rear; there’s some at the front too, but it’s nowhere near as extreme as it looks at first glance...

They slimmed down the sidepods, and then compensated for that "lack" of fresh airflow by using that modification on the mirrors...
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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#140 ·
And here comes McLaren...

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...ally_unveiled/

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