Bad Boys - Part IV

"Basically, what this FIFA anti-discrimination campaign is trying to do is:
- Get everyone committed to kicking discrimination to the curb at every single level of the game—whether that’s in the stands, out on the field, in the front offices, during coaching, in sports education, or even across the media outlets." šatro 🙄

...which is exactly why I couldn't care less about this whole FIFA thing. 😁 Between the outbursts from Jerry Maguire, the "legality" of how things run at the club, and how they basically strip members of their rights, they could probably write a bestseller about it...

They didn't even need to bother publishing a whole book about it; they should have just flagged this to UEFA as their partner and demanded sanctions, you know, like the stuff we're seeing now.

rapidranger29 said:I don't see how the Rose Bowl could be considered the "MetLife Stadium" of America, other than being our biggest venue. I'm talking about those ridiculous, theatrical rules—like assigned seating or banning people from standing in the aisles. That’s been standard practice in the West for ages; in Chicago, it's relatively recent, and the rest of the country hasn't quite caught up yet. But they will. It's just like how Pride parades hit the big cities first before eventually making their way down to places like Miami.

Standing in the aisles is banned at the stadium in Miami too🙂—at least on the east and west sides🙂. They don't have the guts to send security into the stands to clear them out on the north side, much like how certain parts of the south side of the Rose Bowl still let people linger in the walkways. (In fact, Juventus often gets slapped with heavier fines for aisle standing than they do for flares🙂...

Jacob Price23 said:Maybe it's because he’s basically two mediocre guys on those famous Gavin lists for the Rose Bowl.

1. It’s not about having two mediocre people on some list—don't talk if you don't know the situation.
2. I wasn't even talking about the Rose Bowl. Real Madrid played their last match at the local high school stadium. There aren't any "lists." My point was actually about the local matches in general—teams like Lokomotiv or the suburban clubs—and the bottom line is this: it’s pathetic when only 200 people show up to a game in our own city, while places like Miami or smaller towns pull 500 or 600. Get it together. Stop being picky about which games are worth watching. We'll all be better off if we just show up.

Does anyone have an update on the tickets for the big game?

There were seriously only 200 people there? 🤣

Eric Phillips52 said:Stand up, pull yourselves together, and stop being so selective about which battles to fight. If we unite, things will inevitably become easier for everyone.

It is easy to offer such platitudes, isn't it? People are simply exhausted by the constant insults and the endless cycle of the same old grievances. I personally know no fewer than 150 people—not some radicalized inner circle, mind you, but just regular folks who are being pushed away from the fold because half the crowd can't stop their relentless mockery. And there are so many like that out there. Truly, far too many. But in the end, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Mark Flores3 said:It’s easy to say. People are just fed up with the constant insults; it's always the same old story. I personally know 150 people who aren't some hardcore fringe group, just regular folks, who end up skipping half the games because they can't deal with the toxicity. And there are way too many of them. Just way too many. But honestly, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

...😕

Mark Flores3 said:It’s easy to talk. People are just fed up with the insults—it’s the same old story every single time. I personally know about 150 guys who aren't even hardcore ultras, just regular fans who stop showing up to games because they're tired of the constant toxicity. And there are tons of people like that. Way too many. But honestly? We're the ones to blame.

What are you even talking about, man? Do you actually go to the games? Insults only account for maybe 20% of the time. What more do you want? Let's be real, people, quit the exaggerating.

Look at the whole situation. It’s nothing more than pandering to certain fighters, which is honestly pathetic. And what happens as a result? Those very same fighters simply fail to show up when it actually matters. 🤣

Mark Flores3 said:Easier said than done. People... they just don't get it. I've had enough of the insults. Seriously.It’s always the same old story, honestly. I personally know like 150 people who aren't even part of some core inner circle—just regular folks—and half the time, they get sidelined by the gatekeepers just because of who they hang out with. There are way too many of those types. It's ridiculous, really. Just way too many. Honestly, we've only got ourselves to blame.

Bleat, bleat... you only see what real warriors go through, while everyone else just makes excuses. Every single one of us knows that crowd of fans who used to be active but suddenly can't be bothered to show up to the stadium anymore. Thank God they’re probably just praying this nightmare called Sniff & Co ends quickly so they can actually enjoy ninety minutes of cheering for our club without the headache... but honestly, when the front office and certain big shots are constantly trying to screw you over or push you out of the stands, it changes things. When laws are selectively enforced just to mess with the supporters, or when the cops are constantly pulling your buddies in for questioning, or when certain "influential" people try to undermine the whole group... then they claim they aren't showing up because they feel insulted? Give me a break. I swear, I just want to lose it when people turn their backs on the group right when things get toughest. Then, the second an attractive away game pops up, they magically reappear wearing those flashy Bad Boys shirts. Where do they get the nerve to still call themselves Bad Boys? Is that on us? Maybe we deserve it since we know exactly who we can count on and who the real cowards are. Look, I don't want to start another massive debate about how it's better to have a hundred real ones than a thousand fakes. But if you don't feel the need to stand by the group right now—if you'd rather just mind your own business and wait around for some big European matchup—then you were never part of the group to begin with. To the very last man.

Hey, chill out, man. I wasn't even talking to you.

Mark Flores3 said:It’s easy to say. People are fed up with the constant insults; it’s becoming the same old story. I personally know about 150 people—not even die-hard fanatics, just regular fans—who skip games because they can't stand the toxicity from certain sections of the crowd. And there are far too many like that. Honestly, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

So what, am I supposed to endure being insulted for the entire match? Who would want to cheer for a team like this Dinamo?

It's a waste of breath arguing with people who don't even show up to the games just because they feel insulted. Anyone actually sitting in the stands knows the insults only lasted a few minutes after the whistle blew. (When the cheering is organized versus when half the crowd gets blocked from the stands, things are obviously going to be different).

Eric Phillips52 said:Man, what are you even talking about? Do you actually go to the games? Seriously, this stuff is barely relevant like, 20% of the time. What do you guys even want from us? People, please, stop pretending

This guy is about as important as last year's snow. Just ignore him 😉

Kevin Gray86 said:We really need to get used to personalized ticketing and the idea of actually sitting in our assigned seats, regardless of what Mamić is doing.

That kind of thing might fly in Europe or elsewhere, but here? This is our home turf. We’ve never been the type to strictly follow those kinds of rules, and we aren't starting now...

What other reason would there be to show up to these games if not to voice our contempt for Mamić? We should be letting him hear it for all 90 minutes plus stoppage time.

http://www.dinamo.com/en/news/match-preview-vs-austria.html

Do I seriously have to sit in the exact seat listed on my ticket?

Yes, you must follow the seating chart, which security will be enforcing. It’s vital that everyone sits in their assigned spot because the person whose name is on the ticket is legally responsible for that specific seat.

Unbelievable. You don't see this kind of nonsense anywhere else. They’re obsessed with making sure they know exactly where every single person is sitting. If you sit somewhere else and some idiot decides to start a brawl or something, they’ll pin it on you through no fault of your own... just because according to their little spreadsheet, Pero Perić is supposed to be in that chair!🙂 🙂
They don't care about anything except making life miserable for ninety minutes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIrHhO8isBM 👍

A ticket holder isn't responsible for whoever happens to be holding their ticket at the time; legally speaking, you just can't hold someone liable for someone else's actions under any law, period. Whether it’s criminal or just a misdemeanor, the only person who answers for an act is the one who actually DID it, end of story. And if they want to pin it on someone, they’ve got to actually prove that person was the one pulling the strings.
I honestly don't get it—are the suits over at Dinamo just total jerks, or are they just completely clueless? Or maybe they've just decided to start throwing around threats because they think people are too lazy to care and will just let it slide.
Look, if I hand my ticket to someone else, I don't owe anyone an explanation. That person is the one on the hook for whatever happens. If they break the rules and sneak into the stadium—not even sure if there's any penalty for that other than being told to beat it—or if they start causing trouble, that's entirely on them.

Thomas Williams59 said:A ticket holder isn't responsible for whatever someone else does with their ticket. Period. Under any law—criminal or civil—you only answer for what YOU actually did. Simple as that. And if they want to pin something on you, they have to prove you actually did it.
I don't get why the suits at Dinamo are such total assholes or just complete idiots. It feels like they're trying to bully people, thinking everyone's too lazy to push back.
If I hand my ticket to someone, that's on them. I don't owe anyone anything. If they break the rules and sneak into the stadium, that's their problem—besides getting kicked out. Same goes if they act like a jerk.

Right, because I'm sure they'd never lie or do anything illegal. 😁