Bad Boys - Part IV

Austin Watson38 said:The most baffling part of this whole mess is how they just can't seem to handle the security detail. It honestly defies logic. I simply cannot wrap my head around it.🤷

I mean, look, when you have an entire line of police officers standing right behind them, 🤷
the second you lay a hand on a security guard, you're heading straight to a holding cell and that's that...

Austin Watson38 said:The most confusing part of this whole mess is that you guys just can't seem to get the security situation sorted out... I mean, it honestly makes zero sense to me. I just don't get it.🤷

It’s not even about dealing with security—that’s the easy part. The real nightmare is what happens immediately after you're hauled off... because that's all they're waiting for. They’ve got you covered with like seventy different cameras, just hovering, just itching for the moment to catch it on film. Then, before you can even blink, the SWAT teams move in... honestly, we've seen this exact same scene play out at our stadium way too many times already...

Austin Watson38 said:The most baffling part of all this—the one thing I just can't wrap my head around—is that you guys can't seem to sort out the security situation. It makes zero sense to me. I truly don't get it...🤷

They push them around when they’re alone—but what can you really do when management pays them to act like cowards just so they can go through the motions? Those three guys in vests chasing the kids away... look, man, we aren't amateurs. We're Rangers—we've got our white earbuds in... 😛

Today was just one of those gut-wrenching days—that absolute sense of humiliation and total powerlessness while standing there waiting to get into the gates... If they had actually made a move up in the stands, the whole Sheriff situation would have played out all over again...
Kudos to the crew—but let’s be honest, we aren't getting anywhere without the people on that list...

silverbear38 said:Well, when you're facing a wall of riot police, 🤷
one Striker hits a cop and you'll find yourself in a squad car before you can even say goodbye...

As if the stadium even matters.

Sam Reed said:I felt pretty ashamed watching those idiots from Cleveland push out our young talent. We should probably show some backbone to the local authorities and security instead of just standing by while they force our future players out of our stadium. It makes you wonder how we can expect a 15-year-old kid to handle all this during a regular game. I guess we either stand up for ourselves or we just fade away.

Look at it this way. If the group hadn't stepped up right when they did, we might have had another 400 people on the list.

Joshua Moore31 said:Look, get this through your head. If the group hadn't moved at that exact right second, we’d still have another 400 people on that list...

That’s the whole damn point—it’s not about us looking out for our own skin, it’s about what happens to the stands once they kick us out. We basically handed the keys over to those lowlifes because we let them crack down on us just for speaking our minds... and apparently, they’ve got a green light to do whatever they want now. If we decide to show up again at the perfect moment, who even knows where we'll end up...

Austin Watson38 said:The part I just can't wrap my head around is how they can't seem to manage the security detail. It makes zero sense to me. I don't get it.🤷

Basically, the Boys are surrounded on three sides every single game. It’s just that nobody is guarding them from below. On the flanks, you’ve got security standing three feet away, and riot police hovering just inches behind them. Then you've got more security and riot squads positioned above them on the upper tier (which can be lowered whenever they feel like it).

Today, there were three full-blown searches at the stadium entrance.

Feels like Guantanamo.

Honestly, there’s no other way—it’s gotta be illegal stuff. If you guys aren't going to step up and build your own club from the ground up over the next season or two, I really don't see what's going to keep this group together—not that there's much left right now—so just look at how many people have already bailed in just the last few seasons... imagine how bad it'll get when there aren't even any games to go to in the first place.

Austin Watson38 said:It's not even about the stadium.

Exactly....

Look, folks, it’s time for all the supporter groups to step up and protest together—we've finally hit that breaking point where enough people are fed up. The crackdown from the authorities is getting out of hand, and honestly, we've got nothing left to lose.

neonraven112 said:Look, it’s time for every single fan group to step up and protest. We’ve finally hit that critical mass. The crackdown is at its peak—what are we actually waiting for?

Unfortunately, it’s neither the right time for a protest, nor have we actually reached that critical mass yet. Don't get me wrong, I’m all for protesting, but I have this nagging feeling that if we go out there now, the entire American supporter movement will just end up being easy prey.
I hate drawing comparisons to what happens over in Mexico, but honestly? We need something akin to their famous "October 5th" moment. We need a massive, widespread uprising where the people and the establishment find themselves stuck in a total deadlock. Why? Because sports mafia isn't an isolated issue—it’s just a mirror reflecting the rot in our entire society. Getting rid of Mamić might just be symbolic at this point. To me, he isn't even the biggest threat; he's just the guy sitting there because his buddies keep him in power, and let's face it, everyone involved benefits from the status quo.

LONG LIVE THE ULTRAS!

Yesterday was freaking legendary. Those losers were just getting ready to charge. Some idiot over the radio was blathering about arresting everyone in the middle and the front rows. Probably would’ve ended up with 50 to 100 people in cuffs again. They even started setting up those double lines... 🙂

Then the little fishers broke right through the fence and spilled out from the stands. 😁

You could see the pure desperation on the cops' faces. 😲

🙏🙏🙏 🤣🤣🤣

Keep pushing!

Morgan Scott82 said:Could the local tourism board grab $6 million from Washington, D.C. just to hand it over to Los Angeles FC for some European branding? Sure they can. They always find a way, don't sweat it... But D.C. is drowning in its own mess, and eventually, even that faucet is gonna run dry. No matter how much people want to turn it back on, if the city goes broke, the lights go out. That day is coming sooner than you think.

Hell no, they can't. You're just spreading rumors again. You really think the EC is stupid? Brussels exists specifically to police fair competition... That’s their whole damn purpose in life.

Last year they launched an investigation against five Dutch clubs. Imagine what they'd do to us..

The only way we’re going to win this fight is through lawsuits and putting pressure on the highest institutions. Running headfirst into a wall isn't the way to go—I know that goes against the typical fan mentality, but if we don't change tactics, we aren't going to end up anywhere good. There are plenty of smart people in the stands who realize we should just start filing legal actions against the police, the stadium security, the organizers, and even the government. This whole cycle is becoming pointless. Honestly, if the police want to treat us strictly by the letter of the law regarding fan regulations, maybe we should just register ourselves as a national minority. We could declare our identity as fans and exercise the protections granted under minority rights laws. It feels like there’s more actual democracy in South Korea than there is being a fan in Washington, D.C. on match day.

David Kim50 said:It’s too early to protest, and there isn't enough momentum yet. I'm all for a demonstration, but I feel like the whole American supporter scene would just be sitting ducks out there.
I hate comparing us to Mexico, but we need something like their famous "October 5th"—a total grassroots uprising where neither the people nor the government can find common ground. Sports mafia is just a symptom of the rot in society. Getting rid of Mamić might just be symbolic; he isn't even the biggest threat, it's his buddies keeping him in power because the setup works for everyone.

I agree that fans should be part of something bigger. Istanbul is a better example than Mexico. But American fans have always been the ones driving the change. Why stop now?

If we actually united, we could pull together 10 grand easily. The rebellion is going to grow. Maybe not at BBB since we're used to being crushed, but I'm worried Torcida, Armada, and the other groups will take the biggest hit...

Let's just wait a bit longer.

The whole point of this protest is to kick our fight up a notch—we need to move this struggle off the bleachers and straight into the realm of human rights and actual politics. Right now, we’re just shouting into the void; we know how we're being treated, but 99 percent of people have absolutely no clue that seven-year-olds are being harassed. If you get 10,000 people out in Times Square, that becomes a massive headline in every news outlet out there—that's what I'm talking about. It might be a bit early to call it, but our movement has to evolve and break past those stadium walls.

I’m pretty much convinced that if there were ever a massive fan gathering out in Times Square, the cops and the feds would plant about ten undercover agents just to stir the pot—whether it’s to get fans fighting each other or to start a scrap with the police—just so they'd have some excuse to move in.

Jesse Campbell said:Of course they can't. You're just spreading rumors again—unverified stuff, really. Do you honestly think the EC is stupid? Look, Brussels exists specifically to protect market competition... that's basically their entire reason for being...

Last year alone, they launched an investigation against five different Dutch clubs. Just imagine what they’d pull on us if they had the chance..

Just look at the situation with Nicollin and Montpellier. You've got the local tourism board and the City acting as club sponsors, so there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.

Morgan Scott82 said:I’m pretty much convinced that at a massive rally in somewhere like Times Square, the cops and undercover agents would plant ten agitators just to stir up trouble—either amongst the crowd or against the police—simply to justify their own presence...

Stop acting like a philosopher, your deep logic doesn't work here because these aren't honest people... you're better off just going to the games and staying out of it!