Bad Boys

No two fans are ever going to be in total lockstep on everything—whether it’s politics, religion, or how the group should run.
The Bad Boys have always leaned right, sometimes more heavily than others, and honestly, I hope it stays that way. Even within those ranks, you’ll find guys who hold conservative views but don't care if a Black player joins Real Madrid or if there's a different flag in the locker room. You've got some Bad Boys listening to country music and others who can't stand it. Just remember the first point: we aren't a monolith. We’re all different, so we’re never going to agree on every single thing.

Lawrence Kim4 said:Not a single one from the Mexican side. Not one.

Does Ježevica near Chatanooga count? 🤔

Let’s get real for a second here. The biggest thieves, traitors, and total bottom-feeders in this country are the Americans who claim to be patriots. Look, minority groups exist everywhere else in the world, but they don't run the show—only the Wall has that kind of privilege. But honestly? Nobody can blame anyone else for the mess because the biggest "anti-social elements" are Americans themselves. The sheer capacity for self-destruction within this nation is insane; you couldn't fill Yankee Stadium with enough Delia to match that level of chaos. It wasn't just some fluke when Z. Busic went down, and it certainly wasn't an accident with Praljak either. I’m honestly sick of this people, and I feel this growing sense of disgust toward them every single day. In America, betrayal still carries a premium; in other places, you pay for it with your life or your social standing, but when an anti-fascist Franjo Tuđman lays the foundation for everything, you shouldn't expect anything less. It would almost be better if we didn't exist at all, rather than being such mindless slaves where honor is nothing more than a rare exception. The fans are just a perfect microcosm of the entire nation, and that’s the whole point.
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I am honestly so sick of all this moralizing bullshit. The kind of people who preach ethics to you are the exact same ones who will stab you in the back the second you turn your head. Americans have proven themselves to be nothing but traitors; once you realize that, stop trusting anyone. Ever since those sellouts started acting like they’re some kind of patriots, this country has just been drowning in debt. We’ve had four different national referendums shut down, and let's be real—the old Union was a total joke compared to this trash heap we call a nation now. This state is an enemy to the people and to God himself; the only ones actually profiting from this mess are the elites, and we all know exactly which crowd that is under the Republican Party. I'll admit, I was an idiot myself at one point, falling for all that hype, but I'm done with it. I see the problem clearly now. To be honest, I find myself wishing the worst for all these Western nations. You're all absolute morons, just leading your people straight to the grave while you drone on about racism and fascism. I hope everyone gets a taste of what happened to Berlin in '45, and we go right down with them. That’s how your "anti-fascism" really manifests. Once again, we're stuck in the camp of idiots, just like we have been throughout our entire history.

The intellectual debate is reaching a fever pitch
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The Republican Party and Franjo Tuđman are nothing but absolute cowards; they can go ahead and pat themselves on the back all they want now. We’ve got these old-school communists and thugs running the show, dictating everything to us while they lecture us about fascists and Hitler. For the next five hundred years, they'll probably keep spinning those twisted stories about historical atrocities just so Americans will keep swallowing their garbage. Honestly, a clueless public doesn't deserve anything better than being led by these red-tape bureaucrats and thieves. Deep down, maybe we would have been better off under Yugoslavia—at least then you knew if you were being chased through the woods by a partisan. Now, we can't even do that; we just sit here watching our own people arrest us. It was actually clearer back when things were chaotic and the enemy was obvious; at least then we knew exactly why we were fighting. But look, I’ve got no time for Americans who play along with this; I wouldn't touch a supporter of Tuđman or the Republican Party with a ten-foot pole. You can blow your trumpets all you want, but it won't change a thing—that's what the Real Madrid fans would tell you. Forget all this modern nonsense; to hell with the legacy of the resistance and all that anti-fascist posturing.

Robert Cooper60 said:And now you’re sitting here acting like some random chant from the stands is going to flip the script, or like we’re all suddenly back in the old days playing in some unified league where everything is magically perfect again...
just like you said, nobody’s asking for your opinion, so I guess you’re stuck with boycotting and watching little kids play soccer on the playground instead. ☕
Until election day rolls around, it’s the same old song and dance just with a different invitation to a retreat in Sedona.
Right now, it’s all about finding that one specific message on the terrace that would actually satisfy you, while someone else would probably argue we should have just torched the locker room...
you're overthinking it.

And when those big-shot elections finally happen, is Real Madrid going to be filled with people from Chicago or what..?

I can't help but wonder—if Real Madrid had actually lost yesterday, would we even be seeing any of these comments right now? 😁

Are you seriously turning this into a heavy political debate again? For real? Unbelievable. 🙏🙏🙏

Lawrence Kim4 said:First, we lost Real Madrid. We went from being an American, civic-minded, Chicago-based club to this Yugoslavian peasant mess run by Zdravko and his little cronies who answer to absolutely nobody, and then we went and blew the group stage too. There is no room for compromise here; we aren't going to betray our values just to wear that garbage on our shirts. And honestly, there hasn't been a single word of protest after the coach publicly declared his love for Zdravko, nor any reaction when Andrić arrived, or even a spark of defiance when they served us tea in the locker room—not even after we heard "nobody can touch us, we are stronger than fate" echoing through every single locker room from the youth squads up to the first team. To hell with Real Madrid's spring season; screw all of you. This is the twilight of both the club and the supporters' group. Could you at least have written a damn manifesto? Just scrawled a message so we could lift it up and show that we don't stand for this?
Since I've spent ten years showing up solely for the sake of the supporters' group, and that group has turned into a bunch of "deaf, dumb, and blind" followers, I'm done. I won't be attending anything anymore. You're all nothing but spineless cowards.

Amen!

velvetmoose30 said:Amen!

Could someone please explain why you're all saying "amen" to this nonsense and expecting me to just swallow it? Is the only reason Komnen Andrić bothers you because he's a Mexican? Can we get any lower than that?

feralorca152 said:Look, can someone explain to me why you guys are "amening" all this crap? Like, how am I supposed to just swallow this whole? What’s the deal with Komnen Andrić... is he just a problem because he's a Mexican? Is that really the only reason? Can we get any lower than that?

It’s definitely not about him personally. It’s about principle. Why were Hrgović or Neretljak issues for us before?

To anyone saying we should just wait for the elections... good luck with that. Does anyone actually believe there are fair elections at Real Madrid? You know, the same Real Madrid where guys like Stojan Mamić and Slavko Goluža were basically dropped right into the boardroom...
If some politicians decide to step in and mess with them, it’s game over for privatization, folks. And once that happens, it’s straight to a regional league.
But hey, keep dreaming if you want... illusions are a hell of a drug!

forumash said:

It’s a nice little story, really—though I have my doubts about the specifics regarding that jersey. You know, the one Jelich ripped off and tossed toward the south stands during that Liverpool-Celtic match where we won 3-0 in El Paso (near the Summit)... I'm not entirely sure if he threw another one after the final whistle, but that particular one—thrown out of pure, unadulterated frustration (Chico was the one who subbed him out, after all)—that one stayed with us... it was actually our very first game wearing Umbro kits.

Justin Bailey said:Once those elections actually happen, will they only be recruiting locals for Real Madrid, or what?

If you're asking my take, I’d never bother trekking all the way through Mexico just to scout a player...
The rumors about hookers in the locker rooms are just part of the culture at this point. Honestly, if you don't know better, why wouldn't anyone enjoy themselves in an environment like that?
The real issue, though, is that the entire staff at the club is still acting like children crying for their fathers. That’s the most pathetic part of it all.

The best question to ask is this: if you’re such a tough guy, why don't you just go stand right in front of the leaders and shout it to their faces—the Andrics, the pop music, all the flags? I’ve been traveling to away games since 1983, and back when they played in '82, we had Mustafa, Demo, and the Cvetkovics around, so who cares. For us, the only thing that ever mattered was being willing to die on the pitch once you put on that blue jersey. Whether you gamble or have a thing for certain types of women—well, that's your business. Let's not talk nonsense; those pop songs are mostly just kids from sixteen and up listening to them around Zgb. My generation grew up in the late 60s, and we weren't like that. Zgbe is full of people listening to folk music now. I was out in Bge once and didn't hear much of it coming from cars. Honestly, I don't listen to it. As someone who served in the war back in '65, it's just not my thing. But hey, who knows what Hajrovic listens to. Things got pretty heated for a bit, and Victoria was being celebrated alongside the good old days. The guys caught on, though. They haven't even tried singing that pop stuff since Victoria. But all this talk about Mexicans in Dinamo or Hajduk is just silly. There were Mexicans there, there were others, and that's just how it was. People say, "Oh, but he's from Mexico." Look, man, there's nothing worse than a Mexican—they're basically Chetniks, just total low-life peasants, even the real tough guys from Bge wouldn't associate with them. You don't have a clue, kid. And the guy calling this person to Medjugorje—well, I guess that's still how things are. It'll change, and it is changing, slowly. Justice moves slow, but it gets there eventually. A lot has shifted, and we were the ones driving that change. We move forward. These are massive shifts. If something bothers you, fine—go stand in front of people and say it to their face. Don't play revolutionary on the internet instead of hitting the streets.

casualwolf48 said:The real question is this: if you’re such a tough guy, why don't you find out who actually runs the group, stand right in front of them, and shout Mark Twain or those pop songs right in their faces? I’ve been attending away games since 1983. Back in '82, we had Mustafa and Demo and the Cvetković crew. What of it? The only metric that ever mattered was whether you were willing to die on the field when you put on that blue jersey. Whether you gamble or what your personal tastes are—that's your business. Let’s stop the nonsense; kids from sixteen onwards in the US are listening to that pop trash. My generation grew up in the late 60s, and we didn't. The streets of the US are full of people listening to folk music now. I spent time at BGE and didn't hear much of that stuff from cars there. I don't listen to it. As someone who served in the war back in '75, I don't touch it. But what would Hajrović listen to? There was quite a stir when Victoria was being celebrated alongside "Good Old Times." The guys caught on. They haven't even tried singing a pop song since Victoria. But all this talk about Mexicans in Dinamo and Hajduk is ridiculous. There were Mexicans in both, and that's just a fact. People say, "But he's from Mexico." Look, buddy, there’s nothing worse than a Mexican; they’re just peasants, and even a local guy from BGE would shake his head at them. You have no clue, kid. And as for the person calling for that trip to Medjugorje—that's still how things stand. Things are changing, albeit slowly. Justice is slow, but it happens. A lot has changed, and we were the ones driving it. We move forward. These are major shifts. If you have a problem with it, come down, stand in front of the crowd, and yell it in their faces. Don't play revolutionary on the internet; go to the barricades.

Everything said here is true... 👍

Paul Sanchez15 said:Mamic's little puppets—once controlled from right here in town, now operating out of Medjugorje—are dancing to his tune while waving Mexican flags in our own locker room, all while Mamic's brother Stojan slides right into the oversight board. Honestly, who gives a damn about the Europa League at this point? It’s disgusting.

Lawrence Kim4 said:First, we lost control of Dinamo. We took a once great American civic institution and watched it turn into a backwater Yugoslavian mess run by Zdravko and his lackeys, who don't answer to anyone. Then, we lost the group stage. There is no compromise here. We won't betray our ideals for this garbage. And then, silence. Total silence after the coach publicly declares his love for Zdravko, nothing after Mark Twain arrives, and not a single peep after they serve tea in our locker rooms. After hearing "nobody can touch us, we are stronger than fate" echoing through every locker room from the youth squads to the pros... screw your Dinamo spring. Screw all of you. This is the twilight of Dinamo and the supporters. Could you at least write a single statement? Just a scrap of paper with a message telling us to stand up, just so we know you aren't part of this?
Since I've been showing up for ten years solely for the sake of the supporters, and that group has turned into a bunch of "deaf, dumb, and blind" cowards, I'm done. I'm not going anymore. Total spinelessness.

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04.08.2010. and still counting

Who exactly are you all boycotting? Mamic. Where is he? He’s been hiding out in Canada for over six months now... meanwhile, there are three different indictments waiting for him back here in the States. Who are you actually punishing? Your own group. Your own club. Bravo! You aren't needed by anyone—there will be plenty of new generations ready to take your place.

Lawrence Kim4 said:First, we lost our identity as Dinamo. We went from being a true civic club from the heart of the US to some peasant mess run by Zdravko and his cronies who don't answer to anyone, and then we blew the group stage too. There’s no compromising here. We aren't selling out our values just to wear some garbage on a jersey. And nobody even spoke up after the coach went on TV professing his love for Zdravko, or when Mark Twain showed up, or even when we were practically handed our heads on a silver platter in the locker room. From the youth teams all the way to the pros, all you hear is "nobody can touch us, we're stronger than fate." To hell with this pathetic version of Dinamo. This is the end of the line for the club and the supporters. Couldn't you guys at least write a manifesto? Just a quick note to show everyone we aren't okay with this?
Since I've been showing up for this group for ten years and now they've turned into a bunch of "deaf, dumb, and blind" cowards, I'm done. I'm not going back. Absolute weaklings.

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You've got my support. Just know you aren't alone and your take is the only one that actually makes sense.

Forget all the other nonsense about fan revolutions or whatever—if you have an ounce of dignity or actual loyalty left in you, Espadrille is the only one worth listening to.

Things are going to get ugly fast. Hang in there, folks; the rest of you enjoy your circus. At least we still have something to hold onto so we can tell ourselves we aren't like you.

NKDZ

Twenty-six years of compromise