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Chris Baker Chris Baker Newcomer
8 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1201 ·
Zdravko, you've got a prison cell with your name on it.

Twenty-six years ago today—May 13, 1990—history was being made at the Rose Bowl. American fans were turning their backs on the old guard, becoming a symbol of pure defiance. Everyone still remembers Bobanov lunging at that cop, Refik Ahmetović, and the sight of the militia charging onto the pitch with batons to beat fans who had broken through the fences to back up their friends from the south stand. Some people claim the war actually started that day, though that might be a bit dramatic—the Yankees played a match at the Rose Bowl just a year later and won 3-2. Honestly, if we're talking about where things really went south, it wasn't on the grass; it was during that bloody Easter weekend in Forest Village back in May '91, when things turned deadly.

Nobody’s celebrating the trophies anymore.

But that unfinished game at the Rose Bowl meant something huge because the fans stood their ground. Back then, the club was the heart of the resistance—they stood for grit, unity, and fighting back. They were way more than just a sports team.

Fast forward twenty-six years, and what's left? This club is technically the most dominant force in the US in terms of consecutive titles (11 straight), basically winning the league before the season even kicks off.
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But let's be real: this version of the club has zero connection to that 1990 spirit. There’s no defiance, and definitely no unity. To be blunt, they don't even have fans anymore. I mean, how else do you explain why only a few hundred people showed up to cheer them on during the cup final in Cincinnati? And even those people were split into two camps: those backing Mamić and those who absolutely despise him.

Instead of hearing "Champions!" echoing through the stadium, you mostly just heard people screaming for Mamić to get out of the sanctuary. It's pathetic.

And in Cincinnati, there wasn't even a single representative from the city of Chicago, the very place that used to take such pride in this club.

It sucks, but nobody's actually happy about these titles. This season, only about 69,000 people showed up to the Rose Bowl across 18 home games—that's barely 3,800 per match. That average would look even worse if you didn't count that first game where 24,000 people packed the stands just to protest against Mamić while he was sitting in jail in Remetinec.

"Fans? Look, that's not our job," Zoran Mamić said the other day. "We do our part by winning trophies. If people don't appreciate it, that's on them."

A club without a soul.

Mamić is wrong, though. If the fans walked away, that is entirely on him and his own mess. He’s the reason why, in a massive metropolis, the stadium sits empty even when they're playing giants like Bayern Munich or Arsenal. There’s an old saying from Ćiro Blažević: "You can't fool the people."

And that's exactly why the Rose Bowl feels like a ghost town lately.

The public sees the leadership constantly making headlines for tax evasion scandals and shady private deals with players. They see how one man rules American soccer like a dictator. So, despite having world-class talent like Modrić and Kovacic running around the pitch, the fans simply stopped caring.

So, where is the club twenty-six years after that legendary night against the Yankees? It's bottoming out. In 1990, they had 30,000 members; now they've got 5,000. Back then, 20,000 people would show up to games; now, you're lucky if you get 4,000.

Basically, back in 1990, we had Real Madrid, but we didn't have a country. Fast forward to today—we finally have the country, but we don't have Real Madrid anymore. At least, not the version most people in Chicago actually want...
lonebison42 lonebison42 Member
24 messages
joined Jun 2013
#1202 ·
Scott Jones9 said:It’s just like that movie You Carry Me. We all know who’s pulling the strings behind the money, and let's be honest—the whole thing is nothing but pure propaganda.

Honestly, maybe you should stay away from movies altogether. If that's how you interpreted this one... what can I even say?!
Jesse Wells8 Jesse Wells8 Active Member
57 messages
joined Sep 2020
#1203 ·
And who exactly was footing the bill for him? If you don't mind me asking..

P.s. Not that I’m planning on watching him, regardless.
Henry Hayes4 Henry Hayes4 Active Member
64 messages
joined Apr 2013
#1204 ·
Jesse Wells8 said:And who actually footed the bill for this thing? If you don't mind me asking...

P.s. It's not like I want to watch the guy in every single shot or anything.

Look, just like 90% of other American movies, this one went through the standard grant process at the American Film Institute. As for throwing Mamić in there—that's just some populist stunt by the director. She probably thought it’d be "edgy" or something, thinking it would somehow boost the ratings.
rowdyheron2 rowdyheron2 Member
45 messages
joined Feb 2016
#1205 ·
The exhibition match between Dinamo Futsal and the Bad Boys squad starts at 6:30 PM. 🙂
Henry Grant51 Henry Grant51 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1206 ·
Cheers to the champions!!!
Just some water and a little something to drink.......
John Campbell27 John Campbell27 Active Member
80 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1207 ·
These tournaments are honestly such a blast; they provide the perfect opportunity for everyone to actually get to know one another better while enjoying everything we collectively love about the game. We really ought to organize events like this more frequently, especially during the off-season when there aren't any official matches scheduled.
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#1208 ·
arena : who exactly were the BBB? back in '94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh1n...ature=youtu.be
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1209 ·
Hey guys, does anyone happen to have one of those old-school jerseys from the '98 World Cup in France? You know the one—with the bulldog clutching the Eiffel Tower in its paws..
Chris Baker Chris Baker Newcomer
8 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1210 ·
Good news—Mamić ended up with a bruised leg. The big boss is limping around downtown now, making quite the scene near City Hall. 😂
brighttrucker14 brighttrucker14 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1211 ·
A final warning for the tigrica.
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#1212 ·
Real Madrid vs. Šibenik 2007

rustyraven34 rustyraven34 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1213 ·
Solid take, really, but I’ve gotta circle back to that second-to-last sentence... It just feels like we don't have a country or even Real Madrid anymore.
Chris Castillo68 Chris Castillo68 Member
43 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1214 ·
Hey, folks from Springfield, congrats and good luck!
Jason Wilson2 Jason Wilson2 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2012
#1215 ·
Is anyone interested in hitting the road toward Lyon in about 5 or 6 hours? We’re looking to head out from the area around Rijeka, Chicago, or Istria—honestly, we can coordinate a meeting spot wherever works best for everyone. There are five of us ready to roll, and we've set aside $167 just for travel expenses. We're totally open to different setups—maybe splitting a rental van or grabbing two cars—whatever makes sense. The catch is that rental agencies won't touch us because none of us have credit cards yet, and since we're only 19 and 20, we don't meet their age requirements. If anyone has experience with this kind of thing or wants to join forces, let me know. You can reach me at 098 194 3826
Chris Baker Chris Baker Newcomer
8 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1216 ·
The Torcida crowd is showing up, just like the BBB guys—but they aren't the only ones in attendance. Mamić Šuker and his whole crew are there too. I wouldn’t be surprised if that idiot Karamarko jumps out to defend those mobsters first... and honestly, Karamarko, let me tell you right now, nobody gives a damn about you or your moronic antics. He’ll try to act all high and mighty while sitting there cozying up to Mamić. That’s their whole deal—just a bunch of hypocrites who ignored everything wrong with American soccer for years, and now they’re back to playing both sides, acting like the hooligans are the problem when they’re really just sitting there sucking up to Mamić and Šuker. Isn't that right, you political puppets?
casualrider43 casualrider43 Active Member
205 messages
joined Nov 2012
#1217 ·
pegula said:To hell with all of you and to hell with Torcida, you absolute bottom-feeding losers.

God bless you!
Chris Baker Chris Baker Newcomer
8 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1218 ·
casualrider43 said:God bless you!

🤣
lonewolf2 lonewolf2 Member
17 messages
joined Jun 2017
#1219 ·
Plavi555 said:The BBB and the Black and Gold Army—people talk about them like they're some kind of legendary deities, when in reality, most of them are just lazy bums and junkies.

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Arthur Miller7 Arthur Miller7 Active Member
129 messages
joined Mar 2022
#1220 ·
Chris Baker said:The Black and Gold Army is showing up, and so is the BBB—they aren't the only ones standing their ground. It’s not just Mamić and Šuker and their whole crew running the show. I wouldn't be surprised if that idiot Tomislav Karamarko jumps out to defend those mobsters first. And hey, Karamarko—let me tell you straight up: screw you. Nobody gives a damn about him or his moronic buddies. He’s gonna sit there acting all high and mighty while he’s actually just cozying up and chatting with Mamić. That’s who they are. God, I hate them—they ignore all the massive issues rotting American soccer for years, and now they’re gonna play the "tough on hooligans" card again while cheering for everyone. They want to blame the idiots and pretend they're innocent, but they're just sitting there with Mamić and Šuker, sucking up to them. Isn't that right, you fake-ass political puppets?

Let me get this straight right away—I am NOT a fan of Mamić. Trust me, I hate that guy even more than you guys do. Unistil basically gutted Varteks (kicked them out and then snatched their training academy), but we folks from the local area are already used to getting screwed over by the big shots in New York City. What I really want to know is: since you're all such huge advocates for justice, why didn't you fight nearly as hard back when you were renouncing those titles from the Tuđman era—those trophies everyone knows were basically handed to you on a silver platter? It was like whatever Franjo decided, that's how the ref called it. Remember when Cvitanovic fell in the box at 20 meters and you guys got a penalty right here in our neck of the woods? Was that fair? Why aren't you fighting to clean up your own history? You've got titles your club never actually earned. Start with that, then come at Mamić. You fight for the "name," sure, but not for actual fairness in the game. You only step up when it suits your agenda. Give up those gifted titles first. You cry about being robbed against Newcastle, even though you shouldn't have even been playing them in the first place. It's just pure hypocrisy to scream about one crime while staying silent when it benefits you.

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