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Alexander Perez36 said:A Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan is the last person on Earth who should be talking down to anyone.
The absolute last.😉

I know this is off-topic, but I’m dying to hear the reasoning behind that claim.
Go ahead. Lay it on me.

Charles Ruiz6 said:I know this is totally off-topic, but I am dying to hear the actual arguments behind this claim.
Here you go.

Look, there are millions of them, so don't pretend otherwise. And I will never, ever forget those times when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were facing bankruptcy. Back then, the tailgaters took to the streets, practically threatening a civil war against anyone who suggested the city should use that money for schools or kindergartens instead. They completely silenced anyone with a different opinion, even threatening to burn down city officials if they didn't approve the loans. It was chaos; traffic in the entire city just ground to a halt.
Basically, following all the standard rules that apply across all of Europe—even in much less civilized places—a club in that kind of situation would be kicked out of the league and banned from international competitions. But somehow, for you guys, it seems like the laws and regulations just don't apply, no matter how many times it happens.👍

Alexander Perez36 said:There aren't even a million of them, so stop acting like you're some martyr. I’ll never forget when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were facing bankruptcy and the tailgaters took to the streets, practically threatening a civil war. They went after anyone who suggested the city should spend that money on schools or kindergartens instead; they basically silenced any dissent by threatening to burn down the city council members if they didn't approve the loan. It brought the whole city to a standstill.
Basically, following the rules seen throughout all of Europe—even in much less civilized places—a club in that situation would be kicked out of the league and banned from international competition. But somehow, for your sake, the laws and regulations just don't seem to apply.👍

I knew this was going to be a total joke, you really cracked me up.👍

Alexander Perez36 said:There aren't even a million of them, so there's no point acting all high and mighty. I’ll certainly never forget those times when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were facing bankruptcy; back then, the tailgaters actually took to the streets. They were practically threatening a civil war against anyone who suggested the local government should spend that money on schools or kindergartens instead. They just smothered anyone with a different opinion, even threatening to burn down the city council members if they didn't vote for the loan. Traffic in the whole city was basically paralyzed.
Generally speaking, following the rules that apply everywhere else in Europe—even in places far less civilized than ours—a club in that kind of mess would be kicked out of the league and banned from international competition. But for God knows what reason, it seems the laws and regulations just don't apply to you people.👍

🤣🤣 Keep it coming, this is gold. 🙏 Thanks for this, I was having a pretty miserable day.😁

Alexander Perez36 said:Look, there’s maybe a million of them out there, so don't act all high and mighty... I'll never forget when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were facing bankruptcy, back then the tailgaters took to the streets, threatening a literal civil war against anyone who suggested the city should spend that money on schools or kindergartens instead... they basically choked out anyone with a different opinion, threatening to burn down the city council members if they didn't approve the loans, and it actually brought everything in the city to a standstill
Basically, following any standard rulebook you'd find across all of Europe—even in much less civilized places—a club in that kind of mess would be kicked out of the league and banned from international competitions, but somehow, for the nth time, the rules just don't seem to apply to you guys👍

Honestly, kid, you need some help, and you need it right now... if we have to, we might just have to set up a specific forum just for people like you with a specialized curriculum...

wanderingwolf3 said:Son, you need some help, and you need it right this second—unless, of course, you don't. We really ought to consider establishing a dedicated forum specifically for your group, complete with a customized programming schedule tailored to our needs. Wouldn't that be a more efficient way to manage everything?

They’re all over BuzzFeed. 😁

Honestly, nobody is even attacking their posts. To me, those tailgaters just seem ridiculous in their constant attempts to act superior to everyone else. Some people were total losers regarding certain issues, while others deserve a genuine hat tip for how they handled things. My apologies to the folks in the neighborhood for drifting off-topic.

Alexander Perez36 said:There are millions of them out there, you know, people who just don't get how much trouble they cause... and I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to forget that whole mess when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were facing bankruptcy. It was absolute madness; those tailgaters took to the streets and started threatening an all-out civil war right in the middle of the city. They targeted anyone who even suggested that the local government should be using that money for schools or kindergartens instead... they basically silenced anyone with a different opinion by threatening to burn down the city council members if they didn't vote for the loan. Traffic was completely paralyzed throughout the entire city because of it... it was just pure chaos...
Honestly, if you look at how things usually work across most of the US—even in those smaller, less sophisticated towns—a club stuck in a situation like this would be kicked out of the league and banned from international competition immediately. But with you guys, it feels like it's just one more time where the rules and regulations don't seem to apply... 👍

🤣🤣🤣

I remember being right there at the stadium back then, and I overheard someone say that more people were showing up to watch the games than actually attending Los Angeles Lakers matchups during their Champions League runs... it was honestly wild to hear... 🤣

It honestly kills you, doesn't it? Seeing the tailgaters down in Miami like that... it’s more than just sports, it’s this whole incredible subculture that’s been built over generations. It really stings when you see forty thousand people show up together in one go, while you guys can't even manage to get a thousand people out to protest Mamić in a massive city like that... it’s just sad to watch...

It’s just a total collapse, honestly... first you see those old-school Tampa Bay Buccaneers jerseys being brought out like some nostalgic tribute, and now you've got people celebrating goals alongside the very same crowd that was actually targeting you... It’s wild. It feels like just how the Buccaneers developed this massive obsession with the Los Angeles Lakers, you guys are always going to have this deep-seated complex regarding the tailgaters...

Let’s be honest: would anyone in Miami ever actually root against their own Buccaneers during a game against the Los Angeles Lakers? It is obvious that wouldn't happen. The BBB spent at least seven years in total opposition mode—essentially fighting against Mamić. Now that things are changing because Mamić has finally stepped back to just an advisory role, you claim we are betraying the cause. In reality, your situation isn't even remotely comparable to what the BBB went through with the Los Angeles Lakers.

I highly doubt people in your position would protest Mamić if he were delivering these kinds of results; down there, he’d be treated like some untouchable king. Perhaps the tailgaters wouldn't see him that way, but most of your crowd would. We are talking about the kind of crowd that would say what AGMatoš...

Oh, such a small town, such narrow-minded people. Oh, that crowd that grows more blind by the day. Oh, those hollow heads and empty chests. Such a mundane, foolish perspective...

Think about this for a moment. From this perspective, we are all equally stuck.

Maybe some people think they're special. I guess. Not really.

Listen, just listen...

fadedhound86 said:🤣🤣🤣

I remember being out on the outskirts back then, and someone actually remarked, "more people are checking out than attending Real Madrid games in the Champions League." 🤣

What really gets under your skin is the fact that the Ultras are in Miami—something that’s become its own distinct subculture. It stings when forty thousand people show up for a single event, yet you can't even muster a thousand people to protest Jerry Maguire in a massive metropolis.

The whole thing collapsed; first it was those old-school jerseys, and now it's celebrating goals alongside people who were literally throwing things at you. Just like how Juventus has an obsession with Real Madrid, you guys will always have this deep-seated complex regarding the Ultras.

Come on, let's be realistic here. How many of your buddies from the stands actually called this a total fabrication, especially considering how you guys have been packing Juventus stadiums over the last few years? Maybe with Real Madrid, sure, you knew how to fill a stadium based on tradition. But how many actual Juventus members or season ticket holders live right there in Miami? You guys even admitted yourselves that the numbers are tiny compared to the rest of California. You're just filling your heads with nonsense; for your lot, or at least the supporters, Juventus is just a regular social scene where people show up mainly to cause trouble for the folks from D.C. and everywhere else. You might still lead in attendance stats, but that doesn't mean much when you consider the state of things in Washington, D.C.; the only club currently where you can say there's somewhat of a normal atmosphere is the Portland Timbers.

Thanks for listening.

ironheron17 said:Look, let’s get real here... how many of your buddies in the stands actually claimed this was all just some made-up nonsense, especially when you guys were packing out the stadium against big clubs over the last few years? Sure, maybe Real Madrid had their moments where they could fill the seats, but let's be honest about the numbers. How many actual Juventus season ticket holders live right here in Miami? You guys have even said yourselves how small that group is compared to the rest of California... honestly, stop filling your heads with this stuff. For most fans, going to a Juventus game is just a regular social thing, a way to show up and give those guys from D.C. hell... And while you might still lead the pack in attendance, that doesn't mean much when you consider what's happening in D.C.; the only club Zasad where you can actually say there's a decent, normal atmosphere is the Portland Timbers.

Thanks for the input...

I was actually talking about that protest down on the waterfront. That was easily the biggest demonstration we've seen in America in the last fifteen years...😉

restlessheron31 said:Here we go again with the stadium talk. I remember reading somewhere that when the Germans were renovating their stadiums for the World Cup 2006, they specifically designed the fan sections to suit their own needs (like at Schalke 04, for example). If they actually start building this thing, there's a huge chance we'll end up with something like a massive Madison Square Garden clone, just twice as big, with 800 tiny little sections and stairs every three steps, plus all those annoying fences. If people aren't going to speak up publicly, then we might as well keep complaining every single time a stadium is mentioned. They'll mess it up, and we'll be stuck dealing with the fallout. These guys always screw us over.

I think there’s a massive difference between having 40,000 people at a game—with 15,000 of them packed into that fan section—and having a stadium with only 1,000 people where maybe 200 are in the supporter area. 😉

fadedhound86 said:I was thinking about that protest down on the waterfront. You know, the biggest one we've seen in America in the last 15 years. 😉

Right, I just realized that later on. Doesn't matter though, just answer the questions.

Just waiting on the keyboard warriors to show up ☕

ironheron17 said:Alright, I didn't catch that until a bit later, but it doesn't matter now. Just answer the questions.

You have an excellent chat avatar here.

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fadedhound86 said:I was thinking about that protest on the waterfront. Probably the biggest one in America in the last 15 years. 😉

The one against the curriculum reforms was actually larger.

And that didn't even include those agitators or the Viva group.

Some people clearly can't tell the difference between a political protest and a local town festival.
Or perhaps they mistake a championship game for a community fair.
Or maybe they confuse passionate fandom with a neighborhood block party.

Unfortunately, they seem to have a much firmer grasp on how to use the internet...

analogmaker14 said:Some people can't tell the difference between a political protest and some small-town county fair.
Or a championship game and a local carnival.
Or actual cheering and just some random town festival.

But hey, they definitely know how to use the internet, unfortunately...

Man, if you throw two hundred grumpy faces at them, everything just turns into a damn backyard BBQ.😒