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Drew Sanchez82 Drew Sanchez82 Active MemberOP
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In the massive world of Hollywood, amidst all the big blockbusters, we finally got news about a sequel to that cult classic horror-comedy from the 80s, "Bubimir".
People have been whispering about who might show up for this project—which takes place 27 years after the first one—but Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder have basically confirmed it. She actually told The Daily Beast how much they want to step back into those iconic roles. The original Beetlejuice from 1988 was a total powerhouse, picking up an Academy Award for Best Makeup and 3 Saturn Awards: Best Horror Film, Best Makeup and Best Supporting Actress.
Tim Burton is stepping back behind the camera, and Seth Grahame-Smith is handling the script. He’s the guy who worked on Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, Dark Shadows, and he's even working on a script for a remake of another 80s staple, Gremlins.

We don't have a ton of specifics yet. There's no official release date, but it sounds like things are moving into pre-production. I'm really crossing my fingers that the crew pulls it off and makes something that lives up to the original.

Michael Keaton & Tim Burton Back on for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

Release Date: TBA
Studio: Warner Bros.
Director: Tim Burton
Screenwriter: David Katzenberg, Seth Grahame-Smith
Starring: Michael Keaton (Winona Ryder's role isn't officially set in stone just yet).
Genre: Comedy, Horror

Winona Ryder said:"I'm kind of sworn to secrecy. But it sounds like it might be happening..."It's not a remake. It's 27 years later. And I have to say, I Love Lydia so much. She was such a huge part of me. I would be really interested in what she is doing 27 years later."
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/wino...tential-return

"That's one of those movies where little kids stop me," Ryder said. "I'm so associated with it. I think it gave me my career. I was such a weird looking kid."

One thing Winona mentioned—Winona Ryder on ‘Beetlejuice 2: Might be happening with Burton, Keaton, and Ryder
Still, Ryder insisted that if Burton and Keaton had passed, she would have, too. "I would never go near [a sequel] if it was not Tim and Michael," she said. "Because those guys, I love."

Leila Brillson - Senior news editor said:This isn't about us, but if it were, we would suggest that Lydia Deetz is one of the best, most fashionable characters in '90s cinema. Her droll apathy, her dark sense of style, her bangs...she really became a great icon for all of those girls nurturing the inner goth. And it looks like, dare we say it, she's back.

Let’s take a quick look back at how the first one went down:
Quote: Plot Summary said:A follow-up to the 1988 film. The new film is planned as a continuation of the original and not as a reboot.

Directed by Tim Burton, the original starred Michael Keaton as the titular Beetlejuice, a "bio-exorcist" (a ghost who removes humans), who is unwittingly employed by a newly-deceased couple (played by Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis) to frighten away the family that has just moved into their would-be home. Winona Ryder starred as the daughter of the family in her breakout role.

While the original film spawned a lesser-known animated series, a sequel was planned in the early '90s with the title "Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii." Burton had planned to return as director, but the project failed to develop beyond an initial screenplay.

As legendary Bubimir would say, ''It's showtime!'' 😁

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Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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I’m really crossing my fingers that they actually pull the trigger on this one. Burton is hands down my favorite director, and honestly, Bubimir stands out as one of his absolute best works. :grizemnoktedoizlaska:
Paul Anderson7 Paul Anderson7 Active Member
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I just hope they don't turn this into some cookie-cutter Hollywood sequel.

Burton will probably dive headfirst into the deep end and make something incredibly dark, which honestly isn't a bad move for a movie in this genre. We'll have to wait and see how it all unfolds, but I'm not exactly holding my breath for it to hit the top of the box office charts. It feels like the era for those specific horror-comedy blends might have already passed us by.
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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Honestly, I don't even care about the specifics, as long as they just get him in front of the camera and finish the shoot. To be fair, even when Burton's projects miss the mark—like with Alice—I still tend to think they're pretty decent movies.

Honestly, who knows? Maybe someone will actually bring a little flair and extravagance back to this genre, instead of just relying on the same old tired tropes of decapitations and limbs flying everywhere.
Paul Anderson7 Paul Anderson7 Active Member
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Nicholas Watson said:Honestly, I don't even care about the specifics, as long as they just get him in front of the camera and finish the shoot. To be fair, even when Burton's projects miss the mark—like with Alice—I still tend to think they're pretty decent movies.

Honestly, who knows? Maybe someone will actually bring a little flair and extravagance back to this genre, instead of just relying on the same old tired tropes of decapitations and limbs flying everywhere.


I don't really get that line of thinking. It would honestly be better if he didn't make anything at all rather than putting out a bad movie. 🤷
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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#6 ·
Honestly, Burton just doesn't have it in him to make a movie that bad.☕
dustyranger64 dustyranger64 Active Member
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#7 ·
Beetlejuice definitely belongs in that classic era of Tim Burton films—you know, those ones that stayed totally true to his unique vibe, right along with Edward Scissorhands and The Nightmare Before Christmas. His newer stuff might have plenty of flair, but it just doesn't hit that same dark undertone he’s known for.
Roger Martin3 Roger Martin3 Member
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I’ve always been a bit of a skeptic when it comes to sequels—mostly because, more often than not, they just end up being pale imitations of the original, clearly designed just to squeeze a few more dollars out of the box office.
But then again, we’re talking about Burton—who, if you ask me, absolutely nailed it with Batman Returns, perhaps even surpassing the first Batman entirely. When Burton is at the helm, anything feels possible.😍

I just really hope the original cast and crew actually get together for this—rather than some group of wannabe actors and a director trying too hard to capture lightning in a bottle.
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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dustyranger64 said:Beetlejuice definitely belongs in that classic era of Tim Burton films—you know, those ones that stayed totally true to his unique vibe, right along with Edward Scissorhands and The Nightmare Before Christmas. His newer stuff might have plenty of flair, but it just doesn't hit that same dark undertone he’s known for.

Honestly, it’s hard to imagine anyone pulling in 50 or 60 million bucks from a major studio for an "auteur" project these days. Even though Burton always manages to squeeze a little bit of that weird extravagance and darkness into his characters and his work.
dustyranger64 dustyranger64 Active Member
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Nicholas Watson said:Honestly, it’s hard to imagine anyone pulling in 50 or 60 million bucks from a major studio for an "auteur" project these days. Even though Burton always manages to squeeze a little bit of that weird extravagance and darkness into his characters and his work.

I totally get that. It just feels like his recent stuff hasn't quite captured that true "Burton spirit." They lack that certain weight, you know? Though, to be fair, I haven't caught all of his newer work—like Dark Shadows, for instance.
His animated films have this classic vibe that’s probably super tricky to translate to live action, let alone make something palatable for mainstream Hollywood.
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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#11 ·
Personally, I thought Dark Shadows was actually pretty great. It’s got a lot of laughs, even if it isn't exactly one of his absolute masterpieces. Honestly, I'd take it over Alice any day. Definitely worth checking out if you have the time.

If Bubimir can actually pull off something at that level, then I'll be a happy man.
Drew Sanchez82 Drew Sanchez82 Active MemberOP
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Nicholas Watson said:I’m really crossing my fingers that they actually pull the trigger on this one. Burton is hands down my favorite director, and honestly, Bubimir stands out as one of his absolute best works. :grizemnoktedoizlaska:

I grew up constantly watching his movies, honestly. It’s just great to see him finding his groove again and actually pulling a sequel out of the hat like this.
Since we’ve got the same main cast coming back, I really doubt this one is going to flop. My only real worry is that they don't go overboard with all that modern CGI. If they stick to more practical effects and heavy makeup—the way the old masters used to do it—it'll already be halfway to being a masterpiece.

Paul Anderson7 said:I just hope they don't turn this into some cookie-cutter Hollywood sequel.

Burton will probably dive headfirst into the deep end and make something incredibly dark, which honestly isn't a bad move for a movie in this genre. We'll have to wait and see how it all unfolds, but I'm not exactly holding my breath for it to hit the top of the box office charts. It feels like the era for those specific horror-comedy blends might have already passed us by.

The darker, the better.
That title isn't exactly "caliber" enough to rocket straight to the top of the charts, and we aren't talking about some massive blockbuster here. But honestly? For us old-school fans, all this chatter is definitely going to be worth following.
You're totally right. Honestly, those kinds of horror comedies feel like they belong to a different era—like they've been gone for ages globally—but for us fans? They never really left.

dustyranger64 said:Beetlejuice definitely belongs in that classic era of Tim Burton films—you know, those ones that stayed totally true to his unique vibe, right along with Edward Scissorhands and The Nightmare Before Christmas. His newer stuff might have plenty of flair, but it just doesn't hit that same dark undertone he’s known for.

I honestly feel like modern horror movies just can't compete with those absolute classics from the 80s and 90s. They’re missing that certain something—that extra layer of extravagance and that thick, dark atmosphere you just don't see anymore. Everything now relies so heavily on CGI that it ends up looking kind of childish, which totally kills the tension. It makes the actual horror elements feel way weaker than they used to be.
Times have really changed. It’s wild looking back at how things were thirty years ago—back then, you couldn't get through anything without a full face of makeup. Everything was just different.

Roger Martin3 said:I’ve always been a bit of a skeptic when it comes to sequels—mostly because, more often than not, they just end up being pale imitations of the original, clearly designed just to squeeze a few more dollars out of the box office.
But then again, we’re talking about Burton—who, if you ask me, absolutely nailed it with Batman Returns, perhaps even surpassing the first Batman entirely. When Burton is at the helm, anything feels possible.😍

I just really hope the original cast and crew actually get together for this—rather than some group of wannabe actors and a director trying too hard to capture lightning in a bottle.

The core cast—including the director—hasn't been fully locked in yet. They're still looking for the main stars to round things out.
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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Bubimir's got nothing left to work with here. It's tough to top the first one, especially since Burton's been hitting some misses lately—I mean, *Dark Shadows* wasn't even close to being as good as *Planet of the Apes*, which says a lot...

Hopefully they aren't just recycling that *Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii* script that was supposed to happen back in the mid-90s...
Angela Alvarez10 Angela Alvarez10 Member
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Burton & Keaton and even Winona again😍

Naturally, I can't wait.👋👋
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
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Rachel Ortiz33 said:Bubimir's got nothing left to work with here. It's tough to top the first one, especially since Burton's been hitting some misses lately—I mean, *Dark Shadows* wasn't even close to being as good as *Planet of the Apes*, which says a lot...

Hopefully they aren't just recycling that *Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii* script that was supposed to happen back in the mid-90s...

Planet of the Apes and Dark Shadows weren't actually that bad
they had their own cult following. if anything, they were probably better than Prometheus
Drew Sanchez82 Drew Sanchez82 Active MemberOP
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Rachel Ortiz33 said:Bubimir's got nothing left to work with here. It's tough to top the first one, especially since Burton's been hitting some misses lately—I mean, *Dark Shadows* wasn't even close to being as good as *Planet of the Apes*, which says a lot...

Hopefully they aren't just recycling that *Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii* script that was supposed to happen back in the mid-90s...

Unlike a bunch of other classics that tried to mess up their legacy with sequels, we've got the same director here, and he’s basically the master of this genre anyway.

If you read the intro post a bit closer, you'll see they aren't using that failed script. They're working on a brand new one by Seth Smith 🙄 who is also handling the screenplay for the Gremlins remake.
Roger Martin3 Roger Martin3 Member
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Rachel Ortiz33 said:Bubimir's got nothing left to work with here. It's tough to top the first one, especially since Burton's been hitting some misses lately—I mean, *Dark Shadows* wasn't even close to being as good as *Planet of the Apes*, which says a lot...

Hopefully they aren't just recycling that *Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii* script that was supposed to happen back in the mid-90s...

Personally, I found Gremlins and Dark Shadows to be alright—certainly nothing spectacular, I'll admit that—but overall, I actually enjoyed them.
Drew Sanchez82 said:Unlike a bunch of other classics that tried to mess up their legacy with sequels, we've got the same director here, and he’s basically the master of this genre anyway.

If you read the intro post a bit closer, you'll see they aren't using that failed script. They're working on a brand new one by Seth Smith 🙄 who is also handling the screenplay for the Gremlins remake.

I honestly fear that Rachel Ortiz33’s skepticism might actually be justified—it’s a tough pill to swallow, really. Beetlejuice feels like such a complete, perfectly rounded cinematic experience—it doesn't exactly leave much room for the story to grow naturally. My worry—and perhaps a bit of my own pessimism showing through—is that the whole thing might just end up being a repetitive loop of everything we've already seen. 🤷
Well, we shall just have to wait and see. 😁
Perhaps they should have considered making it animated—honestly, Corpse Bride would never have become the masterpiece it is today if it hadn't been an animated film.
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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Honestly, just hope for the best, because the movie's gonna be trash and that's that.

I mean, I know they won't actually use that script—it's not the 90s anymore—but I have to mention it because Burton wrote the absolute worst possible screenplay for a sequel and the studio just totally swallowed it, haha.
Back then, they weren't even making a sequel, but now that there's a little extra cash lying around, suddenly they're all about making a number two...
dustyranger64 dustyranger64 Active Member
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I'm honestly worried that Burton might be just a little too creative to settle for digging through the old sequel bag just to make a quick buck.
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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Planet of the Apes and Dark Shadows were honestly such terrible movies

Super creative, you say? And the last original script Burton actually wrote, hmm... I don't think so
Think about the characters in Corpse Bride, or the story for Edward Scissorhands...

I dig Burton, but he's been out of his game for a while and he's definitely starting to repeat himself

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