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Participants Nicole Ramos2casualotter21Melissa Moore32Terry Ramos60Robert Cooper41ironcrane7hiddencrane54ruggedmarlin15Sandra King86wiredheron56stormyviper30stormywolf39brightfox6Carol Jackson45urbanotter4Kimberly Gomez28Alex Walker5shadowscout8Jose Booth40Angela Long52
Nicole Ramos2 Nicole Ramos2 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Dec 2006
#1 ·
link for Miyazaki's latest masterpiece (or so the media claims)... heading to see it tomorrow 😍 πŸ™‚ . anyone seen it yet?
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
264 messages
joined Feb 2003
#2 ·
Hell, yeah! They screened it at that indie theater near Times Square. Got any thoughts on this whole franchise? πŸ™‚

I thought it was great... What can I say? Classic Steven Spielberg. πŸ™‚
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2004
#3 ·
The two hours flew by like they were two minutes. 😍

One thing that actually made my day was seeing how packed the theater was at Times Square when we went to catch his show. It was just a Wednesday, sure, but man, you wouldn't have known it.

I mean, it’s a masterpiece, whatever way you want to slice it. πŸ™
Terry Ramos60 Terry Ramos60 Active Member
90 messages
joined Jan 2004
#4 ·
How truly fascinating and charming!
Nicole Ramos2 Nicole Ramos2 MemberOP
11 messages
joined Dec 2006
#5 ·
Just walked out of the theater... honestly, I’m not even sure how to process it. I liked it, per se, but the whole thing is just bizarreβ€”and that ending? Total mess. Everything feels rushed, like they just threw the plot together at the last second to wrap things up. The animation is flawless, obviously, but as far as actual storytelling goes... it's hit or miss at best.😒
Robert Cooper41 Robert Cooper41 Member
47 messages
joined Dec 2002
#6 ·
I caught this one on a massive screen here in SC, and I have to say, the experience was absolutely breathtaking. But honestly? If they had just trimmed about twenty minutes off the runtime, it would have been perfect. 😁
Personally, I think "Spirited Away" takes the win every single time.
ironcrane7 ironcrane7 Member
38 messages
joined Apr 2004
#7 ·
I’m no expert on this genre, and honestly, I haven't even seen Spirited Away, but I still enjoyed itβ€”as did the five-year-old I had tagging along with me. That said, the film could have benefited from some serious script editing, especially considering how rushed and confusing that ending felt. It’s an intriguing story, though; quite dark, actually.
hiddencrane54 hiddencrane54 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2005
#8 ·
Look, I’m a massive anime fanatic. I’ve sat through everything from Spirited Away to Princess Mononoke, and obviously Howl's Moving Castle.
That last one? Absolute perfection. The plot, the animation... man, the whole thing is just top-tier.
The only thing that drives me up the wall is when Americans try to "fix" the titles. Take Princess Mononoke, for exampleβ€”it basically means Demon Princess, yet they insist on keeping it as Mononoke... give me a break.
And don't even get me started on how in Howl's Moving Castle, the lead wizard is supposed to be called Howl, not some weird localized version. I honestly don't get why people feel entitled to mess with the original titles and character names. It’s seriously infuriating.😠
Melissa Moore32 Melissa Moore32 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#9 ·
hiddencrane54 said:In Howl's Moving Castle, the main guyβ€”this young wizardβ€”is actually named Howl, not Howl. I mean, I don't get why they feel the need to change titles and character names like that. It honestly just drives me crazy. 😠

The thing is, Howl is basically just the Americanized version of the name Howl.

It’s kind of like how Americans would just call someone named John or Paul if they were translating from another language. (I don't know, maybe I'm just feeling extra biblical today.)

Plus, if you consider the fact that for Japanese speakers, the distinction between R and L is practically non-existent, 😬 it makes perfect sense why writing it as Howl in English is actually the right move.

BTW, it’s weird how you're getting worked up over the literal translation of Howl's title, but you aren't saying anything about Spirited Away, even though the original title is actually "Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi." 😬
ruggedmarlin15 ruggedmarlin15 Active Member
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joined Oct 2005
#10 ·
hiddencrane54 said:In Howl's Moving Castle, the main character is actually a young wizard named Howl, not Hauru. I just don't get why they feel the need to change titles and character names like that. It honestly bugs me so much. 😠

There isn't really a reason for it. You didn't seriously think Krecak would stay as Karushifaa in the translation, did you?
Your "argument" doesn't really hold any water.

ruggedmarlin15
Sandra King86 Sandra King86 Active Member
79 messages
joined Sep 2004
#11 ·
Man, 😍 is just pure magic... honestly, I think it’s even better than Spirited Away...
wiredheron56 wiredheron56 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jun 2006
#12 ·
Not me πŸ™‚
For me, 😍
Spirited Away is his best work. That train scene? Incredible. But Howl is great too πŸ™
. I heard Miyazaki's son is getting into animation now
. His first project should be based on the first Earthsea book by Ursula K. Le Guin
. Word is, Miyazaki has been trying everything to shut that project down
.
stormyviper30 stormyviper30 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2006
#13 ·
I honestly wasn't impressed by Howl's Moving Castle. Even Hayao Miyazaki isn't all that special to me...
Sandra King86 Sandra King86 Active Member
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joined Sep 2004
#14 ·
wiredheron56 said:Not me... πŸ™‚
For me, Spirited Away is easily his best... that whole train scene is just something else... 😍
But honestly, Howl is pretty amazing too... πŸ™

I feel like Howl is right up there with Princess Mononoke... 😍

I heard Hayao Miyazaki’s son is getting into animation too...
The first one really should follow the first Earthsea book by Ursula K. Le Guin...
Word on the street is that Miyazaki was doing everything in his power to shut that project down...


Can we get a little more info on this? First time I'm hearing about it...
stormywolf39 stormywolf39 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#15 ·
According to Wikipedia, 😬
wiredheron56 wiredheron56 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2006
#16 ·
Wikipedia says πŸ™‚
but I tracked down a blog by Hayao Miyazaki’s son 😎
http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/ear.../prologue.html
brightfox6 brightfox6 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jun 2006
#17 ·
I’m a huge fan of Hayao Miyazaki. Not that I’m judging anyone else, but unlike some people, I don’t strictly avoid Disney... so it’s always a nice change of pace when a character like Howl brings me back to what matters. If we’re really getting into comparisons, though, I think little Chihiro hits a bit harder for me. There’s just something about her story that cuts straight through to the heartβ€”though, if I’m being honest, she still might not quite top the moving castle...
Carol Jackson45 Carol Jackson45 Active Member
79 messages
joined Aug 2004
#18 ·
Just finished watching 😍, kind of cute I guess, but honestly nothing has topped Spirited Away for me yet. Anyone actually read the book it was based on?
urbanotter4 urbanotter4 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Aug 2007
#19 ·
Carol Jackson45 said:Just finished watching 😍, kind of cute I guess, but honestly nothing has topped Spirited Away for me yet. Anyone actually read the book it was based on?

Same here. That scene with Chihiro is a straight-up masterpiece. But Howl's is pretty solid tooβ€”fairytale vibes but stays serious. I actually saw it in a theater here about two years ago when they had it playing on Broadway. Still can't believe they actually released it. A friend told me you can grab the DVD at a local drugstore or something now.

Yeah, I read the book. It didn't hit the same. Pretty sure you can just find a download for it on a torrent site.

I checked out the latest one, Spirited Awayβ€”wait, no, Tales from Earthsea. Wasn't great. πŸ‘Ž But that was made by the son, not the legend Hayao Miyazaki himself.
Carol Jackson45 Carol Jackson45 Active Member
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joined Aug 2004
#20 ·
urbanotter4 said:Same here. That scene with Chihiro is a straight-up masterpiece. But Howl's is pretty solid tooβ€”fairytale vibes but stays serious. I actually saw it in a theater here about two years ago when they had it playing on Broadway. Still can't believe they actually released it. A friend told me you can grab the DVD at a local drugstore or something now.

Yeah, I read the book. It didn't hit the same. Pretty sure you can just find a download for it on a torrent site.

I checked out the latest one, Spirited Awayβ€”wait, no, Tales from Earthsea. Wasn't great. πŸ‘Ž But that was made by the son, not the legend Hayao Miyazaki himself.

I watched it on that DVD and honestly, it drove me insane. You set the language to English, but it doesn't even ask about subtitles. Then the movie starts dubbed in English, with English subtitles running underneath. When you try to fix it in the settings, get thisβ€”it just offers you Spanish and Portuguese. Turns out Portuguese was the dub and Spanish was actually Japanese. 😡

I was looking into the plot because I thought it was just some cheesy romance that Hayao Miyazaki turned into his own little fairy tale, but then I read online that the story is way deeper and a lot got taken out of context. Not that I care, though. It’s still worth watching. 😍 Spirited Away is way more complex; compared to that, Disney looks like some innocent bedtime story. Spirited Away's Chihiro 😍

Still, the animation itself is unbeatable, as always. πŸ™

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