Is this a decent signature?

Hey there.
I was wondering—is it actually allowed to have a sentence in your signature that basically insults other people on the forum?
Specifically, I’m looking at this user's signature here:

Also, since the user that this person was targeting got banned—and their "inappropriate" signature (which was the whole reason for the ban) was wiped out—I’d really appreciate it if someone could take a look at my question and give me an answer...

Thanks in advance, cheers.

Personally, I don't see anything offensive about Ethan Brooks59's signature; there’s absolutely nothing insulting about it. 🕺

His signature is really just a reaction to the constant stream of toxic garbage and blatant provocations Ibrahim - PR has been throwing at him through his own signatures for weeks now.

But look, unlike Ibrahim - PR, Monty actually managed to maintain some level of dignity by not attacking Ibrahim's private life, his weight, or his anatomy.

And if you ask me, calling someone an "ignorant fool" isn't an insult—it's just a description for someone claiming that carrot juice and blood are the same thing, or that apple seeds can cure cancer.

EDIT: Since I have a feeling you're going to start nitpicking my posts over on Alternative (likely bringing up how I "insult people" without even bothering to provide links because I already debunked your claims), I'll just get ahead of the curve. I'm posting a tiny snippet of your own work from that same subforum right here—you all can see for yourselves how this person was actually targeting Monty in their own posts while trying to report him now:

Richard Ramirez87, what exactly did Ibrahim - PR say about Ethan Brooks59's family? 😁 I was away on vacation so I missed the whole thing, but I see you guys bringing it up. I noticed they were insulting my family too, assuming we were the same user. I'm genuinely curious—how bad did these idiots get with the insults against Monty and my folks? 😁

Let's take it to the DMs so we don't hijack this thread.

Linda Harris44 said:Hey there.
I was wondering if it’s actually allowed to have a sentence in your signature that basically insults other people on the forum?
Specifically, I’m talking about this user's signature here:

Also, since the user being targeted by that signature got banned—and their "inappropriate" signature (which caused the ban) was removed—I’d really appreciate it if someone could take a look at my question and give me an answer...

I noticed it too... in his signature, Ethan Brooks59 calls people evil, pathetic, obsessive, and envious. It’s pretty obvious he’s aiming them at certain users since he brings up specific signatures and ignore lists...
So, here is what his signature looks like
When some ignorant, malicious person uses their signature to throw out provocations because they aren't allowed to reply to people on their "ignore" list, it just shows how pathetic, obsessed, and jealous they really are.
Is that really considered an appropriate signature?

Richard Ramirez87 said:I honestly don't see anything offensive in Monti's signature... like, nothing insulting at all.

But look, his signature is straight-up insulting and totally poking the bear with other users.
Calling people villains, losers, obsessed creeps, or just plain jealous... yeah, that counts as an insult.

Richard Ramirez87 said:That signature is basically just his comeback to all the toxic trash and rude provocations Ibrahim - PR has been throwing at him through signatures for weeks now.

But how can you actually know what Monty is thinking or why he’s doing it? If he really felt someone else's signature was such a big deal, why didn't he just start a thread over on the forum board?

So, I opened the floor, shall we? 🕺

Based on the links Richard Ramirez87 posted, I’m assuming Ibrahim said something insulting about another user's family on a different forum, then quickly deleted it just so he could jump into a thread over here.

What’s actually hilarious, though, is that they somehow decided to target my family instead, using them as a way to take shots at Ethan Brooks59. 🤣

stormyrider28 knows exactly what's going on here, since he just launched a full-blown crusade against me and my personal life right before my vacation started. 😉

Hey, stormyrider28, do you really think it's okay to pretend people are on your ignore list while simultaneously using your signature to insult their families?

Richard Ramirez87 said:Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with Monti's signature... like, there's absolutely nothing offensive about it at all...

His signature response is basically just a middle finger to all those nasty, rude provocations Ibrahim - PR has been throwing his way through signatures for weeks now...

Look, at least Monty kept his dignity intact. Unlike Ibrahim - PR, who just went totally off the rails... he didn't have to resort to dragging Ibrahim's private life into this, or making those gross comments about his weight and... well, you know, that other stuff. Just classless behavior...

First off, I’ve looked everywhere and I honestly can't find a single spot where Ibrahim - PR mentioned Monty in his signature—not even a mention of Monty's private life, his weight, or... well, anything else like that. Seriously, nowhere. Can you actually show me where that happened? And as for the other thing, I don't think Monty kept his dignity like you're claiming, because he... They really went after Ibrahim in the most brutal way possible...
Here’s an example where... Ibrahim starts bringing up his late father... just talking trash about him like he’s standing right there over an open grave... seriously...

Wait, I think I missed something here... or maybe I'm just overthinking it... anyway... kaže:
When your buddies get hit with some heavy illnesses... when you're watching relatives fade away from cancer... things just get real dark...

You probably spent your whole life getting chewed out by that "deadbeat dad" who used to abuse you... just constant crap from him until the day he went into the ground... 🤦
Absolute psycho at work...

And those guys sucking up to him... you really have to wonder about them...

And honestly, I've reported this to the FTC more times than I can count... but nothing ever happens... absolutely nothing...

Good grief, gnu, I don’t know what his deal is, but Ibrahim himself admitted he laughed his head off when his friend came down with the flu, and then spent days making fun of him for it.

I had a hard enough time swallowing that, but honestly? It was absolutely revolting when he wrote about his relative passing away from cancer and actually decorated the post with smiley faces... 🤦

Roger Cooper91 said:So, I finally pulled the trigger and opened it... what now? 🕺

Alright, look, we’ve all seen this movie before and we know exactly how it ends. You really started this whole thread because you're losing sleep over the fact that Ibrahim - PR mentions Monty in his signature? Honestly, that feels a little naive, don't you think?... The reality is way simpler than that. If you actually look at it, Ibrahim - PR doesn't mention anyone in his signature, let alone anyone from this forum...

Roger Cooper91 said:What's actually hilarious to me... I'm looking at this and seeing that they’ve basically gone after my whole family now, just to try and take shots at Ethan Brooks59... honestly kind of ridiculous...

Can you actually show us how that works...?

Roger Cooper91 said:stormyrider28 knows exactly what I'm talking about... he actually just started this whole massive crusade against me and my family life right before I headed out for my vacation...

Why wouldn't you just drop the link right there? Seriously... And besides, the whole topic is really just about inappropriate signatures and being disrespectful, just a little reminder for you...

Roger Cooper91 said:stormyrider28, so you actually think it’s okay to pretend you've got someone on ignore just to take cheap shots at their families in your signature... seriously...

Look, who someone decides to block or ignore is their own damn business, and honestly, nobody has any right to judge that. It’s just not cool. I mean, do you really think it's okay to talk about a forum member the way Ethan Brooks59 was talking about Ibrahim and his late father? That’s just low...
It’s pretty obvious he was aiming that straight at him since he was replying to his specific post... plus, there wasn't even a mention of anyone else in Ibrahim's signature...

Do you really think that's an okay way to talk to someone...?

Wait, I think I missed something... or maybe I'm just overthinking it... anyway... turns out there's more to the story than we thought... honestly, if you look at how things are moving lately... it’s pretty wild... just goes to show that nothing is ever quite as simple as it looks on the surface... but yeah... we'll see where this goes... kaže:
I'm Ibrahim - PR... THIS IS A TOTAL CASE OF ABSOLUTE, DANGEROUS, PSYCHOTIC STUPIDITY WITH ZERO ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE. SERIOUSLY HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO GET AWAY WITH POSTING THIS UTTER TRASH HERE WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES?????

YOU MORON, DO YOU EVEN REALIZE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOMEONE WHO HAS HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, DIABETES, OR A BLOOD CLOTTING DISORDER DRANK 5 TO 8 (OR GOD FORBID, MORE) GLASSES OF THIS STUFF?
WOULD YOU THEN SAY, "HEY, NOBODY FORCED THEM TO DO IT"???

BEFORE YOU POST YOUR "GENIUS" PIECES OF GARBAGE, MAYBE TRY HAVING SOME SHAME AND LOOK INTO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WHEN YOU MIX MEDICATIONS WITH GINGER.
AND STOP PRETENDING TO BE A DOCTOR BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY AREN'T!!!

Go jump in a lake, you complete idiot. The second you see something interesting, you just dump your text without reading a single thing.

And that’s how Ethan Brooks59 stays "dignified"... This is a prime example of straight-up verbal abuse and here you are talking about ignore lists and who owes who a response...

Aside from making fun of that cousin and cracking up at my buddy who was stuck in bed with the flu, maybe we should actually address "IGNORANT PARENTS WHO MISTREATED HIM"?

"Biljko, I was a true witness to all this back when I was young and ignorant, just following the lead of my uneducated parents who fed me exactly what they ate, which was exactly what their parents fed them...
They forced their dietary habits on me the same way they forced their religion on me (you wouldn't believe it—it's the exact same one they practice) — which is the very same one that was shoved down their throats by their own parents in the exact same fashion...
They imposed it on me by force, back before I even knew my own name, simply by dragging me to the institution (the church) of their choosing and signing me up.
They pushed that diet on me in the exact same way, while I was completely unaware and didn't know a thing about it."

Just so it doesn't look like someone else is saying it. The folks being mocked here are doing a great job of painting the picture. And now you, stormyrider28, are defending him again...

stormyrider28, don't go trolling the thread now. You know perfectly well what was in that link and what the whole point of the text was. And playing dumb is against the rules here at PZK.
Should I start posting those suggestions for perverse sex you keep serving us on a thread meant for nutrition?

Roger Cooper91 said:Good grief, man, I don't know what's up with you, but Ibrahim himself actually said he laughed his head off because his buddy caught the flu and he spent days messing with him...

Well, now you "know" about his dad since I just quoted the post right here
Ugh, like it's some huge mortal sin that someone teased their friend... what does that even have to do with this forum? And of course, there's no link, right?

Roger Cooper91 said:That was already hard enough to stomach, but honestly, it was just straight-up disgusting when he was writing about his relative passing away from cancer and adding smiley faces to it...

Ethan Brooks59 was calling him out for that, and Ibrahim provided links showing how Ethan Brooks59 twisted everything and lied. You gonna drop a link or are you just making stuff up again?

stormyrider28 said:Now you're up to speed on my dad's situation, since I just gave you the rundown from that post!
Honestly, what kind of cardinal sin is it to mess around with your own friend? I mean, seriously, how does that even have anything to do with this forum? And of course, there isn't even a link provided!
Ethan Brooks59 was totally getting roasted for that! Honestly, Abraham even dropped links showing exactly how he twisted the facts and lied about the whole thing. Can you actually share the link, or are we just making stuff up again?

Stormyrider28, you’re back at it again, trolling the thread! You're out here hunting for links that are already sitting right there in every single discussion on this forum.

And let’s not forget to mention that there was a blatant, loud-and-clear threat added to the mix as well! upućena Is anyone else hanging out here on the unknown forum today?

You really think I didn't catch that? Honestly, you caught me off guard for a second, but believe me, my eyes are wide open!

Honestly, for your own sake—and seriously, for your mental health too—it’s probably best if you just let this one go.
Look, you’ve got a wife and kids to think about (at least, that’s what I hear!), and they love you. You really need to step up for them—do it for them, and then just focus on taking care of your own people.
Honestly, this is some seriously solid advice right there!

After stuff like this happens, someone like that really ought to be banned from the forum entirely!

Alright, I’m putting this out there to everyone here, including the mods—what on earth is THIS?

Ethan Brooks59 said:Well, if it were you, a gnu, I’d probably just slice you up and toss you to the lions at the zoo.
That’s considered a good deed, right?

Look, this is straight-up hate speech. A literal threat saying they'll cut me up and feed me to lions, and then they have the nerve to laugh about it...
What kind of penalty should we be looking at for something like this??

And honestly, what you said above doesn't hold water because if you look at that thread, I can see that Abraham was actually trying to de-escalate the whole situation. He wasn't threatening anyone; he was just politely suggesting everyone chill out. When you look at the full post, it's obvious... you can't just cherry-pick one sentence and twist it to make it look different. We can all see he was just trying to keep the peace, not make a threat...

stormyrider28 said:Alright, I’m putting this out there to everyone here—including the moderators—because I honestly have to ask: what on earth is THIS?

Well, here we go—this is the real deal! Hate speech is such a heavy topic, isn't it? It’s one of those things that really makes you stop and think about the state of our conversations lately. I feel like everywhere you look online, things can get heated so incredibly fast, and sometimes that heat turns into something much darker and more destructive. It’s honestly a bit overwhelming to navigate sometimes! You want to share an opinion or engage in a lively debate—which I love doing—but there's this constant, looming shadow of people using their words as weapons to tear others down based on who they are. To me, that’s where the line is drawn. There’s a massive difference between having a passionate disagreement about politics or sports and actually attacking someone’s fundamental identity. One is part of a healthy democracy, while the other just poisons the well for everyone else. I try my best to keep things positive and constructive, though I’ll be the first to admit I can get a little carried away when I'm excited about a topic! But even when I'm being a bit too enthusiastic, I always make sure to keep it respectful. At the end of the day, we’re all just people trying to find our way, right? We should be lifting each other up rather than trying to silence or belittle one another. Let's try to keep the discourse kind, even when we disagree!Can you believe this guy? He actually threatened to slice me up and toss me to the lions, and then he has the nerve to laugh about it! Seriously, what is wrong with people?
So, what kind of sentence do you think is actually fair for something like this??

Is this actually hate speech, or just someone finally standing up to it?

stormyrider28 said:It feels like we’re living in such a backwards world lately! On one hand, you have people being hunted down and thrown behind bars just because they don't want to fall in line, and on the other, if you actually step up to help someone out, you get slapped in the face and accused of being some kind of attention-seeker or "holier-than-thou." Honestly, what kind of nonsense is that? It's just complete madness!You can really tell his heart is in the right place!

Look, I’m honestly just trying to be helpful here—maybe even give you something useful to think about for once. Seriously though, what exactly do lions in the savanna eat? You think they survive on raw plants and salads? No chance. They hunt wildebeests, gazelles, and buffalo. But hey, maybe you're too thin-skinned to realize I'm just poking fun at those ridiculous little outbursts of yours!

stormyrider28 said:Look, that argument above just doesn't hold water for me. If you actually read the whole thread, you'll see that Abraham wasn't trying to start anything at all. He wasn't throwing threats around or being aggressive; he was actually being incredibly reasonable! He stepped in and politely suggested that everyone just take a breather and calm down. It was a totally civil attempt to de-escalate the situation, so I don't get why people are twisting it. Honestly, you’re just spinning your wheels trying to pull one single sentence out of that! I think you’re looking at this a little differently than I am!Look, we can all see what's really going on here. This isn't about making any kind of threat; it's clearly just an attempt to de-escalate the situation and smooth things over.

Whoa, hold on! FIRST OFF: Are you seriously trying to claim I edited my post? That’s a total lie, gnu! I put the entire thing behind a link just to be safe. Plus, your guru's own signatures made it crystal clear—he wasn't looking to "calm things down," he was clearly just trolling!
Seriously though, after all those other ridiculous headaches involving those threatening text messages, how on earth am I supposed to interpret this one? They’re claiming that "something good is coming for me, my health, and my family's well-being." Is this just some kind of sick joke?
Trust me, you really don't want to be standing next to me when I actually lose it—my reaction in person would be something else entirely!
THIRDLY: I really think it would be great if the moderators could finally take a closer look and figure out if you’re actually just a clone. I mean, let's be real—if you turn out to be a duplicate of someone who already got banned, you know exactly what kind of trouble you're heading toward!

Ethan Brooks59 said:Stormyrider28, you're seriously trolling again... just fishing for links that can be found in basically any thread on these forums.

The only reason that bothers you is because it makes your insults look even more obvious... so yeah, I gotta drop the links to back up what I'm saying.

stormyrider28 said:Look, I’m putting this out there to everyone here—including the mods—what exactly is THIS?

This is nothing short of pure hate speech. It’s a direct threat, saying they’d slit my throat and toss me to the lions, and they actually have the nerve to laugh about it...
What kind of punishment is even appropriate for something like this??

...

That's just because you're taking it out of context. Don't give me that crap.

stormyrider28 said:Look, we all saw how that went down a long time ago. So, you’re starting this thread because you're obsessed with the fact that Abraham mentions Ethan Brooks59 in his signature as some kind of dig? That’s a little naive, don't you think? ...The reality is that in Abraham's signature, he isn't mentioning anyone from this forum at all.

Can you actually prove that?

Why aren't you just posting a link? And let's be clear, the issue here is an inappropriate signature and personal insults—just a reminder of what this is about.

Who someone chooses to ignore is their business, but insulting people is where we draw the line. Do you honestly think it's okay to talk about a user the way Ethan Brooks59 talked about Abraham and his late father?
It's obvious he was targeting him specifically since he was replying to his post, whereas Abraham's signature doesn't mention a single soul from this site.

Do you really think that's acceptable behavior?

And that's how Ethan Brooks59 stayed so "dignified"... This is a prime example of crude insults while you're over here rambling about ignore lists and who is responding to whom.

I can't tell if you're genuinely incompetent or just playing dumb. I filed the report for a different reason: Abraham was insulting users through his signature (he even tweaked it slightly after being banned, then acted oblivious to the fact that it's still problematic), and I wanted to know if I could include something similar in my own signature without getting flagged. Since I post in other sub-forums moderated by different people, I wanted to clarify the rules so I wouldn't end up getting 🕺

2. The controversial thread is this one:
http://www.americanforum.com/showthread.php?t=601830&page=4

From page 4 onwards, you can see how everyone started throwing mud at me. Then, while I was away on vacation, you all kept going, sticking to the tired old theory that Roger Cooper91 and Ethan Brooks59 are the same person.

People are talking about losers who can't even function properly. Abraham repeatedly said he didn't care what the users he had on ignore thought of him (he even left names 🤣 right under the poem, though he claims it's "coincidental" and doesn't refer to anyone on the forum)🤣

3. Some users have already been asking why Abraham suddenly stopped being so aggressive and deleted the signature regarding Ethan Brooks59's family (and mine too, considering you guys still insist we're clones) the second he stepped away from the unmoderated PDF section here. Let's call it what it is—he couldn't quite put his finger on it, but let it stand as an illustration. It's interesting how you haven't actually denied that happened. 😉

4. I have absolutely zero problem with Ethan Brooks59 getting banned, but watch out, Lorelei—you and the rest of you who were attacking my kids are now trying to play the victim and act like saints, even though you did the exact same thing. That's the only reason I spoke up. 😉

Ethan Brooks59 said:Is this hate speech or just a response to THAT?

Total hate speech, honestly... the absolute worst kind.
You could've just given a decent, polite reply instead of being this nasty and full of venom.
If you think it’s totally fine to tell an older female member of this forum to go screw herself, then I really don't see what the big deal is with Abraham's signature... he isn't even mentioning anyone or addressing anyone specifically..
It's honestly ridiculous... if his signature was supposedly the issue, then your behavior here is enough for a permanent ban.

stormyrider28 said:Now you finally know about the father since I actually quoted the post for you.
What kind of mortal sin is it to call out someone for screwing over their own friend? What does that even have to do with this forum? And of course, there’s no link provided, right?
Ethan Brooks59 was attacking him for that, while Abraham provided the links showing exactly how Ethan Brooks59 twisted the truth and lied. Are you going to provide a link this time, or are you just making things up again?

No problem, here it is:

http://www.forum.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=4675

stormyrider28 said:Pure hate speech, the absolute worst kind.
You could have responded politely instead of being so nasty and full of vitriol.
If you're fine with that, or if you think it's okay to tell an older female forum member to go screw herself, then I don't see any issue with Ibrahim's signature, since he doesn't even mention anyone or address anyone specifically...
It’s honestly ridiculous—if his signature was supposedly an issue, then your behavior here is grounds for a permanent ban.

Regarding that individual (since they switch between male and female personas whenever it suits them), I am going to say this clearly and loudly every single time.
Anyone who dares to talk trash about the "lost souls" veterans who were stationed above San Francisco, when what they actually mean are the Ku Klux Klan from Mexico who were destroying that city and killing people back then, can expect nothing but pure disgust and contempt from me.
As for those "lost souls" whose brains have been warped by propaganda, they can go rot in Mexico for all I care.

Those people were never, and will never be, veterans—they were occupiers. That is a fact confirmed by our laws and the Declaration of Independence. There is no other word for them. If that's hard for them to swallow, they can take it up with Milo Đukanović...

I'm standing my ground.

So go ahead, ban me if you have to.