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Is this build compatible? + Questions

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neonraven95 neonraven95 NewcomerOP
6 messages
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#1 ·
So, I'm putting together a new rig. It’s been quite a while since I last sat down to build a machine, and after a fair amount of deliberation, I’ve landed on this configuration:

Processor: Intel Core i7-6800K (3.4GHz, 15MB, LGA2011-V3) box

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212, compatible with 2011/2011-3/1150/1151/1155/1156

Motherboard: ASUS ROG Extreme, Intel X99, DDR4, audio, G-LAN, S-ATA, RAID, PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, ATX, socket 2011

RAM: Patriot Viper4 Memory, 2400Mhz, 16GB (2x8GB), CL15

HDD: 1TB Toshiba SATA III 3.5'' Hard Drive, 1000 GB, SATA3, 32 MB, 7,200 rpm DT01ACA100

Power Supply: Fortron Hyper 700W

Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW, 8GB GDDR5, DX12

Case: Zalman Z9 NEO BLACK mid tower case black

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0, 24x, SATA, black, bulk

protis

My intention is to use this setup for gaming, streaming, video editing, and music production. I’ve specifically targeted this CPU because my library consists mostly of CPU-heavy titles—think ArmA 3, Total War, or Skyrim—along with heavily modded versions of GTA and similar heavy hitters. Please feel free to suggest any alternatives if you spot a better path. This is my first time actually assembling a PC from scratch; I’ve done plenty of research, but I’d appreciate some extra eyes. I have a cousin who works in IT, though we haven't spoken in a while, so I figured I'd turn to this community instead.

Does everything look solid to you? Also, if you have a moment, I could use some clarity on a few specific points:

1. Will I need to pick up some thermal paste for this assembly?
2. Since I'm working with a Broadwell-E generation processor, will I need to flash the BIOS on the motherboard, and if so, what does that process entail?
3. Is this power supply sufficient to handle these components?
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2016
#2 ·
More people are suggesting a dual PC setup for streaming. Honestly, trying to game and stream on a single rig at the same time causes a ton of headaches. You'll see plenty of threads about this online, and most folks really swear by using two separate PCs. If you're hell-bent on doing everything on one machine, you're going to need a seriously powerful processor to pull it off.
neonraven95 neonraven95 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Aug 2016
#3 ·
goldenotter9 said:More people are suggesting a dual PC setup for streaming. Honestly, trying to game and stream on a single rig at the same time causes a ton of headaches. You'll see plenty of threads about this online, and most folks really swear by using two separate PCs. If you're hell-bent on doing everything on one machine, you're going to need a seriously powerful processor to pull it off.

But then again, what wouldn't qualify as a "good" processor by those standards?
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#4 ·
It’s a solid CPU, but I’m a little worried about how much streaming it can actually handle. There's a massive difference between pushing an AMD FX-8350 or an Intel Core i5-4440 to its limit versus trying to run a 6-core chip where you're just leaning on two cores and hyperthreading. You should really think long and hard about whether you want a single-PC setup or a dual-PC setup, especially since streaming is the goal here. If we're talking about anything else, this processor is a beast. But seriously—streaming on a single CPU can be a real struggle. Do some digging on Google; there are tons of threads about this exact issue.
neonraven95 neonraven95 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
goldenotter9 said:It’s a solid CPU, but I’m a little worried about how much streaming it can actually handle. There's a massive difference between pushing an AMD FX-8350 or an Intel Core i5-4440 to its limit versus trying to run a 6-core chip where you're just leaning on two cores and hyperthreading. You should really think long and hard about whether you want a single-PC setup or a dual-PC setup, especially since streaming is the goal here. If we're talking about anything else, this processor is a beast. But seriously—streaming on a single CPU can be a real struggle. Do some digging on Google; there are tons of threads about this exact issue.

That's news to me.
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2016
#6 ·
I'm actually in a similar line of work (doing YouTube gameplay)... I have a few streamer buddies I can hit up for some advice, so there's no harm in asking. 🙂
Dennis Stewart40 Dennis Stewart40 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2013
#7 ·
neonraven95 said:So, I'm putting together a new rig. It’s been quite a while since I last sat down to build a machine, and after a fair amount of deliberation, I’ve landed on this configuration:

Processor: Intel Core i7-6800K (3.4GHz, 15MB, LGA2011-V3) box

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212, compatible with 2011/2011-3/1150/1151/1155/1156

Motherboard: ASUS ROG Extreme, Intel X99, DDR4, audio, G-LAN, S-ATA, RAID, PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, ATX, socket 2011

RAM: Patriot Viper4 Memory, 2400Mhz, 16GB (2x8GB), CL15

HDD: 1TB Toshiba SATA III 3.5'' Hard Drive, 1000 GB, SATA3, 32 MB, 7,200 rpm DT01ACA100

Power Supply: Fortron Hyper 700W

Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW, 8GB GDDR5, DX12

Case: Zalman Z9 NEO BLACK mid tower case black

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0, 24x, SATA, black, bulk

protis

My intention is to use this setup for gaming, streaming, video editing, and music production. I’ve specifically targeted this CPU because my library consists mostly of CPU-heavy titles—think ArmA 3, Total War, or Skyrim—along with heavily modded versions of GTA and similar heavy hitters. Please feel free to suggest any alternatives if you spot a better path. This is my first time actually assembling a PC from scratch; I’ve done plenty of research, but I’d appreciate some extra eyes. I have a cousin who works in IT, though we haven't spoken in a while, so I figured I'd turn to this community instead.

Does everything look solid to you? Also, if you have a moment, I could use some clarity on a few specific points:

1. Will I need to pick up some thermal paste for this assembly?
2. Since I'm working with a Broadwell-E generation processor, will I need to flash the BIOS on the motherboard, and if so, what does that process entail?
3. Is this power supply sufficient to handle these components?

If I may be so bold as to ask how much this will cost in total, because I am also looking to get one for gaming myself.
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#8 ·
That’s roughly $4.25, so I guess you might want to look for something a bit more budget-friendly 😛
Dennis Stewart40 Dennis Stewart40 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2013
#9 ·
crimsonstag84 said:That’s roughly $4.25, so I guess you might want to look for something a bit more budget-friendly 😛

is, well, I was actually looking at something closer to $2167
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#10 ·
The 275GB Crucial MX300, SATA3, CT275MX300SSD1.
It’s an MSI B150M Bazooka Plus, LGA 1151 socket.
It’s an Intel Core i5-6402P (6MB Cache, up to 3.40 GHz) on the LGA 1151 socket, I guess.
The Zalman Z1 NEO mid tower case.
The XFX RX 480 8GB GTR (RX-480P8DFA6) features 8 GB of DDR5 memory with a 256-bit bus, running at 1288/8000 MHz. I guess it's a decent little card.
It’s an FSP Fortron/Source Hyper 500W unit, ATX 2.31 spec—specifically the HP500, model PPA5005003. I guess it's just one of those standard power supplies.
WD Blue 1TB HDD, 3.5", 7200RPM, 64MB Cache, SATA3, WD10EZEX
I guess this is just a single 8GB stick of DDR4 Crucial RAM, clocked at 2133MHz with CL15 latency. It's the CT8G4DFS8213 model.

Total: $2.25 AMD (assembly included, free shipping)
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
353 messages
joined Jul 2015
#11 ·
crimsonstag84 said:The 275GB Crucial MX300, SATA3, CT275MX300SSD1.
It’s an MSI B150M Bazooka Plus, LGA 1151 socket.
It’s an Intel Core i5-6402P (6MB Cache, up to 3.40 GHz) on the LGA 1151 socket, I guess.
The Zalman Z1 NEO mid tower case.
The XFX RX 480 8GB GTR (RX-480P8DFA6) features 8 GB of DDR5 memory with a 256-bit bus, running at 1288/8000 MHz. I guess it's a decent little card.
It’s an FSP Fortron/Source Hyper 500W unit, ATX 2.31 spec—specifically the HP500, model PPA5005003. I guess it's just one of those standard power supplies.
WD Blue 1TB HDD, 3.5", 7200RPM, 64MB Cache, SATA3, WD10EZEX
I guess this is just a single 8GB stick of DDR4 Crucial RAM, clocked at 2133MHz with CL15 latency. It's the CT8G4DFS8213 model.

Total: $2.25 AMD (assembly included, free shipping)

Honestly, I wouldn't have built it any differently myself. 😁🙏
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2016
#12 ·
http://oi65.tinypic.com/16gihkk.jpg

Here's what I was talking about. My buddy's running an i7 laptop with 12GB of RAM and a 960, yet he’s out here streaming games like Pokémon FireRed... I’m still sticking to my guns: if you want to stream, you either need a beast of a PC or two separate rigs.

Anyway, just dropping a link to the forum from my old partnership network so you can check out some of the experiences there.

http://damnlag.com/forums/

There you go, hope it helps! 🙂
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
353 messages
joined Jul 2015
#13 ·
goldenotter9 said:http://oi65.tinypic.com/16gihkk.jpg

Here's what I was talking about. My buddy's running an i7 laptop with 12GB of RAM and a 960, yet he’s out here streaming games like Pokémon FireRed... I’m still sticking to my guns: if you want to stream, you either need a beast of a PC or two separate rigs.

Anyway, just dropping a link to the forum from my old partnership network so you can check out some of the experiences there.

http://damnlag.com/forums/

There you go, hope it helps! 🙂

You can't compare an i7 and a GTX 960 mobile setup to actual desktop equivalents. There's a massive gap there.
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2016
#14 ·
But let’s be real—streaming a VBA emulator game isn't exactly the same thing as streaming a desktop game at 1080p 60fps. VBA is pretty low-demand...
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
353 messages
joined Jul 2015
#15 ·
goldenotter9 said:But let’s be real—streaming a VBA emulator game isn't exactly the same thing as streaming a desktop game at 1080p 60fps. VBA is pretty low-demand...

The software being used, the upload speed—that’s what actually dictates how the stream performs.
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2016
#16 ·
Robert Rodriguez2 said:The software being used, the upload speed—that’s what actually dictates how the stream performs.

I've actually seen firsthand how streams behave for people running an Intel Core i7-4770 and an R9 280X on titles like F1 from Codemasters. There are tons of examples out there. For one of those F1 games, the Intel Core i7-4770 and the 280X just weren't enough, regardless of the connection speed.
Dennis Stewart40 Dennis Stewart40 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2013
#17 ·
crimsonstag84 said:The 275GB Crucial MX300, SATA3, CT275MX300SSD1.
It’s an MSI B150M Bazooka Plus, LGA 1151 socket.
It’s an Intel Core i5-6402P (6MB Cache, up to 3.40 GHz) on the LGA 1151 socket, I guess.
The Zalman Z1 NEO mid tower case.
The XFX RX 480 8GB GTR (RX-480P8DFA6) features 8 GB of DDR5 memory with a 256-bit bus, running at 1288/8000 MHz. I guess it's a decent little card.
It’s an FSP Fortron/Source Hyper 500W unit, ATX 2.31 spec—specifically the HP500, model PPA5005003. I guess it's just one of those standard power supplies.
WD Blue 1TB HDD, 3.5", 7200RPM, 64MB Cache, SATA3, WD10EZEX
I guess this is just a single 8GB stick of DDR4 Crucial RAM, clocked at 2133MHz with CL15 latency. It's the CT8G4DFS8213 model.

Total: $2.25 AMD (assembly included, free shipping)

Well, I actually ended up purchasing mine directly from them, so while the configuration is somewhat different than what was suggested, I suppose I should still say thank you for the recommendation.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
466 messages
joined Aug 2014
#18 ·
Perhaps he’s looking at a used workstation from about a year ago, maybe one running dual Xeon processors. Something server-grade. It’s likely possible to track down a setup like that if it fits his needs, though I don't have much direct experience there—it's just a hunch. I haven't even considered the price point, but I suspect such a machine would cost less than this new build he put together.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
466 messages
joined Aug 2014
#19 ·
http://www.newegg.com/p/nvidiatrtx3070/pc-build-example

Something along these lines. It would be fairly simple to drop in a dedicated card, perhaps an RTX 3070, and eventually upgrade to a beefier power supply. I suspect this could serve as a viable solution for both streaming and gaming purposes.

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