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Participants Robin Moore86neontiger27ambertinker77silentpuma9Megan Ruiz13ATerry Rodriguez41dustytinker13fadedowlZachary Thompson9Aaron Gonzalez6Austin Phillips3wearytiger4hiddentrucker16Kenneth Doyle62Jason Richardson5Taylor Allen86Amanda Brown3Ethan Richardson3Gregory Walker15Kyle Sanchez71
Robin Moore86 Robin Moore86 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2006
#1 ·
Give me your honest take on this legendary band

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Metallica

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neontiger27 neontiger27 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2006
#2 ·
I don't really listen to Metallica, though I definitely respect them. It’s just that everyone listens to them, you know? That kind of popularity actually puts me off a bit (same goes for Iron Maiden). I prefer finding things that feel a little more unique. I tend to lean toward "alternative" stuff, even if that label isn't technically accurateβ€”at the end of the day, every band has its own merits.
ambertinker77 ambertinker77 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2007
#3 ·
..I find myself revisiting them from time to time, just to refresh my memory... and every single time, I end up realizing they’re actually better than I remembered last time. It’s a bit of a loop, really. My takeaway? Things just wouldn't feel the same without them.😎
silentpuma9 silentpuma9 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#4 ·
I’m right there with ambertinker77 on this one... their stuff is just pure legend status. You could probably loop their discography a hundred times and you'd still stumble upon some fresh layer or a bit of originality in every single track. It never gets old.
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Megan Ruiz13 Megan Ruiz13 Active Member
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joined Apr 2016
#5 ·
Nothing beats 😳

Man, I used to love this band. Honestly, they’re still my favorites and the ones I listen to most, but that last album was a real letdown.

The issue isn't just one bad album, though. The overall musicianship has slipped, and what bugs me most is the vocalsβ€”James Hetfield’s voice has definitely "declined," if you know what I mean.

That edge is gone. Looking back at the 1987–1993 era, the beast sounded like they were spitting venom.

But they did this small tour this year, sort of an escape from the studio, and they called it that. It totally caught me off guard.
For me, 2003–2005 was the absolute rock bottom for Metallica. As someone who's been listening for over 18 years, I'm telling you, it was the pathetic, lowest point I've ever seen. Hard to believe a band could fall that far.

However, like I said, those shows this year were phenomenal. The playing, the stage presenceβ€”it was all great. They haven't sounded this good in a long time. And they nailed it show after show. Just solid.

It gives me some hope that the next album might actually be good, and it makes me want to catch them live again. A Metallica show is a spectacle. You have to experience it; it’s not just a concert, it's something on a scale I can't even put into words. 😁 😳

Oh yeah, if anyone's interested, they played two new tracks on that tour that should be on the new record. Here are the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieHXwXhOZCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2Kae-lcUc

I completely agree with the idea that you find something new in their songs every time you listen. When I switch to other bands, some get old fast, while others I'll revisit. But when I put on Metallica, nobody else even comes close.😈 πŸ™
A Anonymous Veteran
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Metallica
Terry Rodriguez41 Terry Rodriguez41 Active Member
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joined Jan 2007
#7 ·
Man, you really went all out again, didn't you? 😁
dustytinker13 dustytinker13 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2007
#8 ·
They aren't terrible, even if they have been getting pretty pathetic lately.
St. Anger is a total joke compared to their older stuff, but I heard they’re playing full albums live now, which is actually a huge win.
fadedowl fadedowl Member
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joined Dec 2006
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Gary Anderson38 said:Well, if anyone actually cares, they played two new tracks on that tour that are supposed to end up on the next record. Here are the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieHXwXhOZCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2Kae-lcUc

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Zachary Thompson9 Zachary Thompson9 Active Member
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joined Oct 2006
#10 ·
Man, I’m just not feeling this first oneβ€”and honestly, my buddy isn't either.
But check out Hetfield in some of these shots. πŸ™‚ image

Holy hell, why are these smiley faces so freaking cursed?
Aaron Gonzalez6 Aaron Gonzalez6 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#11 ·
I was riding with Metallica right up until The Black Album dropped. Everything after that? Pure commercial trash, an absolute train wreck. Honestly, screw themβ€”they’d sell their souls for a quick buck. I mean, what was the point of that whole symphony orchestra concert thing? Total overkill. It’s a good thing they didn't have a band like Journey opening for them... just a total DISASTER. Might as well have recorded a duet with Shakira and called it a day. Scumbags. But those first four albums? Respect. Everything else is garbage and pure Overproduction. They just wanted to stack the cash.
Austin Phillips3 Austin Phillips3 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
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Aaron Gonzalez6 said:If they just did a duet with Shakira, they’d be set.

They already have one with Britney Spears. 😘
Aaron Gonzalez6 Aaron Gonzalez6 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#13 ·
Man, that was a lifetime ago, back when the Rebels actually had some teeth. Those were the good old days!!!
wearytiger4 wearytiger4 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2006
#14 ·
The albums leading up to The Black AlbumπŸ™
They fundamentally reshaped the entire metal landscape...
Everything that followed, though... it just doesn't sit right with me, especially considering that recent pile of garbage they put out...
It’s truly a shame to see how far they've drifted from their roots. Honestly, Hetfield should have never stopped singing...
Megan Ruiz13 Megan Ruiz13 Active Member
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joined Apr 2016
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wearytiger4 said:hetfield shouldn't have quit drinking...

Interesting take. So he should have just kicked the bucket and left his wife and three kids behind? Besides, the booze trashed his health and wrecked his marriage until his wife finally kicked him out.
Then he decided to get sober.

To me, it takes real guts to do that. If he’d kept drinking, he would’ve just been a coward.
A lot of these self-proclaimed "hardcore metalheads" call him soft now, but he’s more of a man than any of them will ever be. Actually, better to say he's more of a human being.

Man, people don't get it. If the last album you actually liked was And Justice for All, that was nearly two decades ago. It's about time you moved on and stopped whining. That version of Metallica hasn't existed for fifteen years, yet somehow fans still act like spoiled brats, demanding the band play fast, stay aggressive, grow their hair long, and get wastedβ€”just so they have some "real metal" band to brag about.

The reality is these guys are in their 40s now. They have families and kids. They've realized that if they want to raise their children and actually see them grow up, they have to change how they live.
Of course that changes the music.

You expect them to be rebels? Give me a break. Hetfield takes his daughter to ballet classes every week. He plays with his kids and spends most of his time sober with his family. Yet, pissed-off metal fans think that's "bad"β€”that he needs to be a rebel, drink, swear on stage, and ruin his life just to satisfy them.

I guess some people think it's "cool" to stumble home high, bloated, and maybe even lay a hand on their wife or kid. That's what they're looking for.πŸ™„

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5skhP313R0

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Austin Phillips3 Austin Phillips3 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
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I actually felt a tear coming on while reading Gary Anderson38's last post. 😒 πŸ™
hiddentrucker16 hiddentrucker16 Active Member
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joined Oct 2006
#17 ·
I find myself in total agreement with what Gary Anderson38 was sayingβ€”it’s far too easy to spiral into trouble, isn't it? One really has to possess the necessary skill to navigate their way back out... which means, quite frankly, all Hetfield needs to do is πŸ™
Megan Ruiz13 Megan Ruiz13 Active Member
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joined Apr 2016
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Check this out πŸ™

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3DCY...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPVDv...elated&search=

They’ve been playing like this throughout the entire tour this year. Honestly, they haven't sounded this good in a long time.
Aaron Gonzalez6 Aaron Gonzalez6 Member
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joined Oct 2006
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wearytiger4 said:If you’re looking to dive into the discography leading up to Blackened, you’ve got plenty of heavy lifting to do. You can't just jump straight into the deep end without respecting the evolution of the sound. You've got to start at the beginning with Kill 'Em All if you want to understand where that raw, unhinged energy came from before things got more technical. From there, you move into Master of Puppets, which is basically the gold standard for everything they ever did. After that, you hit the transition period with Ride the Lightning and the stuff that follows, like the much more experimental era of Load and Reload. If you want to understand the full arc of how they went from thrash kings to whatever they became later, you have to listen to it all in order. Don't skip the steps. πŸ™
They completely flipped the entire metal industry on its head.
That last one... I just can't wrap my head around it. And don't even get me started on that absolute garbage they dropped at the end.
It’s such a damn shame what happened with them. Honestly, James Hetfield should have never stopped singing.

I'm in. Count me in.
Aaron Gonzalez6 Aaron Gonzalez6 Member
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Gary Anderson38 said:Interesting. So he was supposed to just drop dead and leave behind a wife and three kids? Beyond the fact that alcohol trashed his health, it also wrecked his family life, which is exactly why his wife kicked him out of the house.
after which he finally decided to kick his addiction.

If you ask me, you need serious balls and actual backbone to do something like that. If he had kept drinking, he would have just proven he’s a total wimp.
A lot of these so-called "hardcore metal dudes" are calling him a coward right now, but honestly, he’s more of a man than any of them will ever be. No, better yetβ€”he's a real human being.

God, people just don't get it. If the last album you actually enjoyed from this band was And Justice for All, then that was 18 years ago. It’s been plenty of time to grow up and stop whining. That version of Metallica hasn't existed for 15 years, but for some reason, fans still act like spoiled little brats, demanding the band play fast, aggressive stuff, let their hair down, and get wasted on drugs just so they have a "real metal" band to brag about. Just so they can flex how much "hardcore" music they listen to. Bullshit.

The reality is these guys are over 40 now. They have families and kids. Maybe it finally clicked in their heads that if they want to raise their children and actually see them grow up, they have to change how they live.
Of course that kind of stuff is going to bleed into the music.

You expect them to stay rebels forever? Give me a break. James Hetfield takes his daughter to ballet classes every single week. He plays with his kids and spends most of his time sober with his family. Yet, these pissed-off metalheads think that's a bad thing. They think you always have to be a rebel, you have to drink, you have to swear on stage, and you have to make a fool of yourself in your 40s while destroying your own life.

I guess they think it's "cool" to stumble home high, bloated, maybe even take it out on their wives or slap a kid. That's what they're looking for, right?πŸ™„

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5skhP313R0

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