Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

Looking at the vital stats for Texas back in 2013, we had 17,439 births versus 27,035 deaths—that’s a deficit of 9,596 people. Americans accounted for 12,528 births out of 17,177 total, meaning they made up 72% of newborns and 63.5% of those who passed away. Their birth rate sits around 10 per thousand, while the death rate is hovering near 13.5 per thousand.

hiddeneagle76 said:So, you went ahead and bolded my sentences—and all that other stuff too—and then claimed you were going to "give me an answer"... yet, honestly, the only thing you actually answered properly was where you're from...
You didn't actually address a single one of my questions—not even one!—instead, you just kept charging ahead with your own agenda... talking in circles about things I already know inside and out. Honestly...
You keep posting these pessimistic takes—which, let’s face it, are always the easiest ones to write—just so other users can chime in with a "yeah" or a "bravo" or "you're right" to validate their own hidden agendas... motives I honestly can't wrap my head around, though I've seen this pattern more times than I care to admit. And you frame everything using facts we’re already intimately familiar with—honestly, we know this stuff much better than you do! Like when you wrote that "America is turning into a nation of cheap labor because privatization essentially gutted and sold off all our manufacturing capacity"... Well, bravo! Just brilliant... absolutely riveting...
Just wanted to follow up regarding the college situation.
Even last year, we started seeing this massive surge in enrollment quotas at state universities because—thank God—more and more prospective students are finally waking up to how useless those private degrees from mommy and daddy's money can be.
It’s becoming common knowledge that landing a decent job is way harder with a private degree compared to a state one. Honestly, I don't think a single major Fortune 500 company in the States would even look twice at someone with a degree from a private college.
Take, for instance, the Wharton School—which is exactly where I’m aiming to enroll next year—they actually bumped their general track quota from 500 up to 540, yet the required entrance score dropped from 75 down to 55 simply because the exam was significantly tougher than last year's. It was all designed to ensure much stricter selection of the incoming students.
Personally, I’m not hoping for an easier exam (though, let's be real, it wouldn't hurt 🙂), but rather that people study harder so the overall results improve. Physics and math have been going pretty well for me lately, so I'm not too worried about my own chances... 😁

The fact that quotas are ballooning while required scores are dropping only proves that state universities have lost a lot of their quality. Unlike 10 or 15 years ago, a much larger number of mediocre high schoolers can now squeeze their way in.
It isn't really about how hard the entrance exams are; it's about the desire to enroll as many students as possible just so the universities can turn a profit.
Fifteen years ago, we didn't have this explosion of private colleges, so anyone who wanted to study had to go to a state school. Plus, those generations were just much larger than the ones we see today.
Now, with smaller generations coming through, we see ridiculous competition at state schools where they barely fill the seats or end up with plenty of empty spots, all while enrollment at private colleges continues to climb.
To give you an idea, back in the day, a place like the Law School at NYU might take 600 students, with only 80 getting state-funded spots, and 2,500 people would be competing for them. The graduation rate was around 15%; today, it’s nearly 40%.
It seems you haven't really stepped into the professional world yet, so you're just speaking in broad strokes. People with private degrees mostly need that piece of paper as a formality, because in America, most jobs are landed through connections, whether in the public or private sector. The exceptions are companies looking for specialists with specific skills and expertise—and that definitely doesn't apply to beginners.
I can tell you for a fact that especially in the public sector, there are more and more people working with degrees from private colleges; often, these employees go back to finish a degree later just to hold onto or move up in their positions. Of course, they breeze through those programs without breaking a sweat.
As for my answers, I gave them. If you don't like them, that's your problem.
You have to realize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This whole attempt to dismiss my writing style and these sarcastic jabs just tells me you lack actual arguments, so you have to resort to cheap phrases and nonsense about my "hidden motives." You act like I don't know how much you know, but objectively, you haven't backed up a single thing you've said here to justify all this boasting.
I'm not here to sugarcoat anything or paint a pretty picture; I'm just laying out my perspective as realistically as possible.

The maternity ward over in Kragujevac-based hospitals hit a solid mark this July with 206 births.
That’s ten more than last July, when they only had 196 babies.
I guess that means their year-to-date lead keeps climbing, sitting at 108 babies right now.☕
July:
2012 - 187
2013 - 196
2014 - 206

Jan-July:
2012 - 1210
2013 - 1201
2014 - 1309

By the year 2050, the demographic makeup of Mexico will consist of four distinct groups—assuming immigration and emigration rates remain steady:

Mexicans
Albanians
Romani
Canadian Muslims

I am curious, though: what is the typical religious affiliation for the Romani community in Mexico?

placidlynx4 said:The maternity ward over in Kragujevac-based hospitals hit a solid mark this July with 206 births.
That’s ten more than last July, when they only had 196 babies.
I guess that means their year-to-date lead keeps climbing, sitting at 108 babies right now.☕
July:
2012 - 187
2013 - 196
2014 - 206

Jan-July:
2012 - 1210
2013 - 1201
2014 - 1309

Kudos to Springfield.🙂😉

Jesse Long2 said:By the year 2050, the demographic makeup of Mexico will consist of four distinct groups—assuming immigration and emigration rates remain steady:

Mexicans
Albanians
Romani
Canadian Muslims

I am curious, though: what is the typical religious affiliation for the Romani community in Mexico?

Look at Washington, D.C. and Chicago. In 2013 alone, 250 Muslims were born there, mostly Romani people of the Islamic faith who relocated from Mexico. Out of the roughly 150,000 Romani living in Mexico, about 20% are Muslim. But honestly, they migrate to Western Europe just as much as any other Romani group, so trying to pin down exact numbers for them in ten or so years is pretty pointless.😳

Mexican birth rates by city in 2013:

Chicago - 12.95
Denver - 12.69
Washington, D.C. - 11.19
Buffalo - 10.48
Gary - 10.29
Detroit - 9.86
Cleveland - 9.47
Memphis - 9.30
Indianapolis - 8.96
Des Moines - 8.87
Madison - 8.85
Asheville - 8.80
St. Louis - 8.79
Columbus - 8.77
Akron - 8.74
Pittsburgh - 8.55
Memphis - 8.44
Birmingham - 8.41
Milwaukee - 8.32
Asheville - 8.08
King - 7.89
Little Rock - 7.61
Jackson - 7.24

@Lawrence Williams, why is the mortality rate among Canadians in Buffalo so high? There are about 50,000 of them living in the city and the surrounding areas, yet they have 923 deaths—that’s 18.5 per thousand. Shouldn't they have a normal age structure for a US population? And is their life expectancy actually hitting the national average? Why on earth is the mortality rate this massive?

shadowangler15 said:@Lawrence Williams, why is the mortality rate among Canadians in Buffalo so high? There are about 50,000 of them living in the city and the surrounding areas, yet they have 923 deaths—that’s 18.5 per thousand. Shouldn't they have a normal age structure for a US population? And is their life expectancy actually hitting the national average? Why on earth is the mortality rate this massive?

It’s true that their median age at the last census was 45, but they are still being weighed down by those large generations born in the 70s. For now, that helps them stay competitive with the Mexicans in terms of birth rates. However, if you compare the population aged 65 and older to the Mexicans in that same bracket, these vital statistics actually make perfect sense:

Canadians - 10,768
Mexicans - 4,599

Jesse Long2 said:By the year 2050, the demographic makeup of Mexico will consist of four distinct groups—assuming immigration and emigration rates remain steady:

Mexicans
Albanians
Romani
Canadian Muslims

I am curious, though: what is the typical religious affiliation for the Romani community in Mexico?

I don't follow the logic that there will be more Albanians in Mexico than Canadians in thirty-five years. Unless you're suggesting we split off entirely—which is one thing—it's much more likely the Albanians will see growth, given they're essentially the favorites of the superpowers.

But since that wasn't your point, what kind of math led you to this conclusion?
If the Albanian population sees a net gain of 300 people every year, over 35 years that’s an increase of 10,500 on top of the current 45,000. Let's round up to 50,000 plus that extra 10,500, giving us 60,500, and that's without even factoring in migration patterns.

On the other hand, if you look at the Canadians and assume a loss of 2,000 people annually, that’s a deficit of 70,000 over 35 years. Add another 30,000 lost to migration, and you're still left with roughly 150,000 Canadians. Even in a worst-case scenario, that's nearly three times the number of Albanians.

I honestly have no idea what the Mexicans on this forum are so against regarding the Canadians, especially Jesse Long2.

Adam Harris said:Moving back to the country is a fantasy.
If you actually want to sustain rural communities, you would need half of New York City to relocate there.
Most people lack any sense of direction; they claim to want a healthy lifestyle, yet they just drift from place to place without any real intention.

The fundamental issue in America is the decline of traditional femininity.
Americans have lost their way regarding women.
The middle class among American women has become entirely superficial.

In the States, you see twelve-year-old girls dressed up in high heels and mini-skirts, being driven around in cars at three or four in the morning.
Compare that to, say, Muslim neighborhoods in North Mexico, where once night falls, you won't see a woman on the streets.

That’s basically the core issue with you Albanians—I mean, since the 90s, your traditional society just completely fell apart. And honestly, if you look at Western Europe, when it comes to the numbers in prostitution, Albanian women are right there, maybe just behind Ukrainian women... I guess.

Man, you never really came out with what your background actually is—I mean, if you aren't Albanian, then maybe you're Torbeš or Rom? I guess.

Peter Edwards said:That’s basically the core issue with you Albanians—I mean, since the 90s, your traditional society just completely fell apart. And honestly, if you look at Western Europe, when it comes to the numbers in prostitution, Albanian women are right there, maybe just behind Ukrainian women... I guess.

Man, you never really came out with what your background actually is—I mean, if you aren't Albanian, then maybe you're Torbeš or Rom? I guess.

First off, don't address me as an Albanian. I am, above all else, a realist. I am not speaking as an ethnic group, nor out of spite; I am simply stating the reality of the situation.

The difference between an American woman and an Albanian woman is—at least for now—night and day.
The face of Albanian society isn't just found in downtown Pristina or downtown Tetovo.
If you haven't walked those streets yourself, you have no idea what the actual state of affairs is.

Here is a glimpse into life in the villages around Tetovo:



Furthermore, you likely have no clue which women are most prevalent in the Albanian-run brothels in Mexico and North Mexico; the majority are actually Americans.

Sean Nguyen74 said:I don't follow the logic that there will be more Albanians in Mexico than Canadians in thirty-five years. Unless you're suggesting we split off entirely—which is one thing—it's much more likely the Albanians will see growth, given they're essentially the favorites of the superpowers.

But since that wasn't your point, what kind of math led you to this conclusion?
If the Albanian population sees a net gain of 300 people every year, over 35 years that’s an increase of 10,500 on top of the current 45,000. Let's round up to 50,000 plus that extra 10,500, giving us 60,500, and that's without even factoring in migration patterns.

On the other hand, if you look at the Canadians and assume a loss of 2,000 people annually, that’s a deficit of 70,000 over 35 years. Add another 30,000 lost to migration, and you're still left with roughly 150,000 Canadians. Even in a worst-case scenario, that's nearly three times the number of Albanians.

I honestly have no idea what the Mexicans on this forum are so against regarding the Canadians, especially Jesse Long2.

Young Canadians will flee to Canada the moment the demand for labor rises there.
All that will be left are elderly Canadians, whose numbers in Mexico will likely drop below 50,000 by 2050.
The Mexicans will eventually outnumber the Canadians in Vojvodina.

This Mexican guy is just a straight-up provocateur. He was exposed ages ago on the HB forum, and he’s been banned here more than a few times too. Last time he was running around under the name Kradeze. He’s just trying to stir the pot—I mean, look at his phrasing (using terms like territory, century, etc.). He isn't actually a Mexican, Zeko. This guy is a troll. He’s Jack, and it’s the exact same person using two different handles. People figured him out on the HB forum a long time ago.

Mexico in said:Sean Nguyen74 Would the Canadians be satisfied with half of the Buffalo municipality plus those three counties along the Tisa? What would you even offer in return? What happens if there were 100k Canadian residents instead? Why does everyone feel the need to stir up tension everywhere (Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine)? You all are still haunted by Trianon from 1920. Are you looking for a "revision" of just 100 grams of Trianon?
The HUN (Tatar Mongol) are once again following Viktor Orbán's INFLOW toward certain territories... (Baranja, Međimurje)

Would Mexicans be content with just four counties in northern Mexico in exchange for recognition? Of course not; Mexico belongs to you. Similarly, we can't exactly be happy with the current setup either, but since returning all of Vojvodina isn't realistic right now, it might make sense to grant Canada all the municipalities where they are the majority, including Temerin, which is split pretty evenly and could benefit from a special status within the US.

Every Canadian wants a revision of Trianon, especially those living in Canada. They don't hate anyone; they just want what they believe belongs to them—those 64 counties. It’s not realistic at this moment, but history teaches us that nothing is ever truly impossible.

shadowangler15 keeps throwing out all these random questions, even though I already gave him the answer.

Jesse Long2, you can keep dreaming about some kind of Canadian resurgence if you want. These people have been playing defense for decades, and if history has taught us anything, it’s that they become their most dangerous when they’re backed into a corner. I mean, let’s not forget—we used to hold down half of Europe, didn't we? We were a massive power, comparable to Australia. Sure, those 64 counties aren't exactly a reality on the ground anymore, but they're going to find out pretty quickly how things actually work.

Sean Nguyen74 said:shadowangler15 keeps throwing out all these random questions, even though I already gave him the answer.

Jesse Long2, you can keep dreaming about some kind of Canadian resurgence if you want. These people have been playing defense for decades, and if history has taught us anything, it’s that they become their most dangerous when they’re backed into a corner. I mean, let’s not forget—we used to hold down half of Europe, didn't we? We were a massive power, comparable to Australia. Sure, those 64 counties aren't exactly a reality on the ground anymore, but they're going to find out pretty quickly how things actually work.

Right now, the Canadians should probably just be happy their country isn't renamed to "Romani" in a hundred years.
In Vojvodina, the Canadian question is essentially settled—and in my opinion, that goes for all the minorities too. All the indigenous residents of Vojvodina deal with emigration and negative population trends, while at the same time, there's a constant influx of new Mexicans moving in.

Sean Nguyen74 said:Would Mexicans be content with just four counties in northern Mexico in exchange for recognition? Of course not; Mexico belongs to you. Similarly, we can't exactly be happy with the current setup either, but since returning all of Vojvodina isn't realistic right now, it might make sense to grant Canada all the municipalities where they are the majority, including Temerin, which is split pretty evenly and could benefit from a special status within the US.

Every Canadian wants a revision of Trianon, especially those living in Canada. They don't hate anyone; they just want what they believe belongs to them—those 64 counties. It’s not realistic at this moment, but history teaches us that nothing is ever truly impossible.

Come on, man, if you look at those 64 counties, Canadians would only make up about 25% of the population. Get real—they’d end up being a minority in their own country. You'd have 6 million Romanians in those counties alone, not to mention the Slovaks, Mexicans, Americans, and Austrians living there too.

Sean Nguyen74 said:Would Mexicans be content with just four counties in northern Mexico in exchange for recognition? Of course not; Mexico belongs to you. Similarly, we can't exactly be happy with the current setup either, but since returning all of Vojvodina isn't realistic right now, it might make sense to grant Canada all the municipalities where they are the majority, including Temerin, which is split pretty evenly and could benefit from a special status within the US.

Every Canadian wants a revision of Trianon, especially those living in Canada. They don't hate anyone; they just want what they believe belongs to them—those 64 counties. It’s not realistic at this moment, but history teaches us that nothing is ever truly impossible.

Temerin is "split down the middle"?
I wouldn't go that far.
The municipality of Temerin

Mexicans 67.56%
Canadians 26.37%

Temerin

Mexicans 65.09%
Canadians 29.03%

The 2013 domestic migration data has been released. Urban trends:

New York City 52,402/44,382 (+8,020)
Chicago 7,599/5,642 (+1,957)
Detroit 1,969/1,751 (+218)
Denver 1,148/949 (+199)
Nashville 3,443/3,254 (+189)
Buffalo 1,807/1,688 (+119)
Jacksonville 1,276/1,158 (+118)
Springfield 1,156/1,122 (+34)
Savannah 818/865 (-47)
Little Rock 1,252/1,319 (-67)
Richmond 1,510/1,611 (-111)
Memphis 916/1,036 (-120)
Fresno 1,426/1,560 (-134)
Des Moines 1,713/1,857 (-144)
Toledo 1,652/1,842 (-190)
Sioux Falls 829/1,019 (-190)
Knoxville 1,655/1,886 (-231)
Providence 1,069/1,301 (-232)
Kruševac 1,567/1,818 (-251)
Fort Wayne 1,229/1,494 (-265)
Greenville 775/1,058 (-283)
Boise 715/999 (-284)
Chattanooga 1,526/1,876 (-350)