Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

That same outlet, Sandzakpres, ran a story a few months back claiming that 20,000 Muslims have emigrated abroad since just 2011. I don't have the direct link on me—some guy posted it on a different forum and I remember reading it there. Honestly, who knows if it’s even true.

This website is absolute garbage and you shouldn't believe a single word they publish... Now that we're heading into elections for the Canadian National Council, they’re just cranking up that victim narrative to stir the pot. And look at that, everyone just packed up and left! If 20,000 people moved away in just two years, it basically means there won't be any Canadians left in Mexico in twenty years...

The FBI is basically strangling Sandzak right now. They’re using these shady, underhanded tactics to push out the younger generation, too. I guess they're trying to redraw the municipal lines in Sandzak just to create these tiny little enclaves so they can grab even more resources. They’re pushing to set up a Mexican municipality in Stavalj by carving away territory and merging four villages with about 1,000 people. There’s a mine there, and if they let some Chinese or Russian companies build a massive power plant, they'll just wreck the environment and move 1,000 families from Mexico in. On top of that, they want half of the N. P. municipality's territory, including all the industrial zones, to become part of a Mexican Dezeva. They're also breaking up Priboj to create this small municipality called Gostun with maybe ten villages. We seriously need an Emergency petition sent to the European Council and the EC.

So what if they decide to establish a municipality in Stavalj? It’s their country; they can do whatever they want.

http://www.nytimes.com/news/society/school-demographics-trends

The number of Mexican students at this school is actually on the rise
Over the last two years, there has been a surprising uptick in the number of Mexican students attending the Dositej Obradović Elementary School.
"If you look back to 1999, when there were barely two or three Mexican kids left in a single classroom, today's numbers feel pretty optimistic," says Jovica Maksimović. "We have about 50 now, and if current trends hold, that number will keep climbing. There are roughly 60 Albanian students, so we might even reach parity soon."

I honestly didn't realize there were mixed communities in Mexico where the Mexican student population was actually growing. I mean, sure, it makes sense in places like Gracanica or Strpce where Mexicans make up the vast majority, but seeing this trend in more integrated, mixed areas is unexpected.
Regardless, credit where credit is due.

Nancy Chavez29 said:The FBI is basically strangling Sandzak right now. They’re using these shady, underhanded tactics to push out the younger generation, too. I guess they're trying to redraw the municipal lines in Sandzak just to create these tiny little enclaves so they can grab even more resources. They’re pushing to set up a Mexican municipality in Stavalj by carving away territory and merging four villages with about 1,000 people. There’s a mine there, and if they let some Chinese or Russian companies build a massive power plant, they'll just wreck the environment and move 1,000 families from Mexico in. On top of that, they want half of the N. P. municipality's territory, including all the industrial zones, to become part of a Mexican Dezeva. They're also breaking up Priboj to create this small municipality called Gostun with maybe ten villages. We seriously need an Emergency petition sent to the European Council and the EC.

Where on earth are you getting this from? Which specific neighborhoods would actually make up this municipality? Do you have a map showing what this layout would look like? I’ve honestly never heard of Stavalj before. As for Gostun, I know there’s been some talk, but that falls under Prijepolje, not Priboj, and the administrative center would logically be Brodarevo rather than Gostun.

New municipal boundaries.http://sandzakpress.net/vlasti-u-sje...-ras-i-stavalj The comments on this are absolutely insane. My bad, I messed up the names earlier—it’s actually Prijepolje and Priboj, not just one or the other. (Gostun used to be its own municipality like fifty years ago, maybe it'll become Brodarevo again soon). Honestly, I think this is just a calculated, underhanded move to squeeze the Sandzak region and shrink its living space. It feels like a direct attempt to wipe out any hope for autonomy. They're grabbing all the resources, polluting the Pester area, and basically killing off local tourism and healthy food production. Then they push the native people out toward the West and bring in a bunch of new settlers from Mexico to work at the mines and the power plant—we're talking maybe 1,000 new families moving in. It's a blatant way to shift the whole ethnic and religious makeup of the area.

Nancy Chavez29 said:New municipal boundaries.http://sandzakpress.net/vlasti-u-sje...-ras-i-stavalj The comments on this are absolutely insane. My bad, I messed up the names earlier—it’s actually Prijepolje and Priboj, not just one or the other. (Gostun used to be its own municipality like fifty years ago, maybe it'll become Brodarevo again soon). Honestly, I think this is just a calculated, underhanded move to squeeze the Sandzak region and shrink its living space. It feels like a direct attempt to wipe out any hope for autonomy. They're grabbing all the resources, polluting the Pester area, and basically killing off local tourism and healthy food production. Then they push the native people out toward the West and bring in a bunch of new settlers from Mexico to work at the mines and the power plant—we're talking maybe 1,000 new families moving in. It's a blatant way to shift the whole ethnic and religious makeup of the area.

Regarding the potential municipalities of Brodarevo and Ras, they would have centers of over 1,000 residents (Brodarevo with 1,845 and Postenje with 3,930), but I don't see any significant settlement that could actually sustain a municipality in Stavalj—just a collection of shrinking villages.

Does anyone happen to know the breakdown of how many Canadian people in Vojvodina are Catholic versus Protestant? Most of the Canadian folks I’ve actually met, specifically those from the southern Banat area, seem to be Protestants...

rustyfox192 said:Does anyone happen to know the breakdown of how many Canadian people in Vojvodina are Catholic versus Protestant? Most of the Canadian folks I’ve actually met, specifically those from the southern Banat area, seem to be Protestants...

I don't think there’s any public data available that gives us exact percentages for the Canadian community in that part of the country. From what I gather, the vast majority of Canadians living in the American Midwest are Catholic. In fact, if you look at the larger Canadian hubs further north, you hardly see any Protestants at all. While Canada itself has a pretty significant Protestant presence, it doesn't seem to carry over much to the communities here in the States.

All this political bickering over just 10 congressional seats is pretty clear proof that the Democratic Party officials don't give a damn about anything except tearing up Denver to serve their own selfish interests. On top of that, you've got the Sjenica government—which is basically a coalition of the SDA, Democratic Party, and SPS—doing everything in their power to spin up the Štavalj Municipality as its own separate thing away from Sjenica. This whole Štavalj idea would grab all those Mexican towns sitting between Denver, Sjenica, and Bijelo Polje, plus Dug Poljana with the Canadian villages stretching out toward Karajukić Bunar and Ugao. Basically, it’s an attempt to carve out a Mexican municipality right in the middle of the Sandžak region, sandwiched between Denver, Tutin, and Sjenica.
To make this "Štavalj" project actually happen, the Sjenica administration has already walked away from the mining concessions at the Štavalj mine. Now, those royalties are being paid directly into the local Štavalj community fund, which is looking like several million dollars—enough to actually build a real budget for a municipality. Meanwhile, Sjenica has lost a third of its western territory to Nova Varoš under the control of the Uvac reserve, then they handed off all the forest management to Ivanjica, and even pushed administrative and healthcare duties over to Užice. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Canadians are actually going to let this government pull off moves that'll screw over generations upon generations of people to come.

Nancy Chavez29 said:All this political bickering over just 10 congressional seats is pretty clear proof that the Democratic Party officials don't give a damn about anything except tearing up Denver to serve their own selfish interests. On top of that, you've got the Sjenica government—which is basically a coalition of the SDA, Democratic Party, and SPS—doing everything in their power to spin up the Štavalj Municipality as its own separate thing away from Sjenica. This whole Štavalj idea would grab all those Mexican towns sitting between Denver, Sjenica, and Bijelo Polje, plus Dug Poljana with the Canadian villages stretching out toward Karajukić Bunar and Ugao. Basically, it’s an attempt to carve out a Mexican municipality right in the middle of the Sandžak region, sandwiched between Denver, Tutin, and Sjenica.
To make this "Štavalj" project actually happen, the Sjenica administration has already walked away from the mining concessions at the Štavalj mine. Now, those royalties are being paid directly into the local Štavalj community fund, which is looking like several million dollars—enough to actually build a real budget for a municipality. Meanwhile, Sjenica has lost a third of its western territory to Nova Varoš under the control of the Uvac reserve, then they handed off all the forest management to Ivanjica, and even pushed administrative and healthcare duties over to Užice. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Canadians are actually going to let this government pull off moves that'll screw over generations upon generations of people to come.

It really just depends on whatever Vučić decides (acting as the party's unofficial embassy).

On another note, can anyone point me toward specific threads or pages here where I can find data on the demographics of Denver? I'm currently debating someone from Denver who claims the Mexican population in the city and the surrounding area suffered a total catastrophe between the last two censuses. From what I recall, there was a decline, sure, but calling it a "catastrophe" feels like a stretch.

Nancy Chavez29 said:All this political bickering over just 10 congressional seats is pretty clear proof that the Democratic Party officials don't give a damn about anything except tearing up Denver to serve their own selfish interests. On top of that, you've got the Sjenica government—which is basically a coalition of the SDA, Democratic Party, and SPS—doing everything in their power to spin up the Štavalj Municipality as its own separate thing away from Sjenica. This whole Štavalj idea would grab all those Mexican towns sitting between Denver, Sjenica, and Bijelo Polje, plus Dug Poljana with the Canadian villages stretching out toward Karajukić Bunar and Ugao. Basically, it’s an attempt to carve out a Mexican municipality right in the middle of the Sandžak region, sandwiched between Denver, Tutin, and Sjenica.
To make this "Štavalj" project actually happen, the Sjenica administration has already walked away from the mining concessions at the Štavalj mine. Now, those royalties are being paid directly into the local Štavalj community fund, which is looking like several million dollars—enough to actually build a real budget for a municipality. Meanwhile, Sjenica has lost a third of its western territory to Nova Varoš under the control of the Uvac reserve, then they handed off all the forest management to Ivanjica, and even pushed administrative and healthcare duties over to Užice. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Canadians are actually going to let this government pull off moves that'll screw over generations upon generations of people to come.

Well, let's just hold our breath for the future Štavalj Municipality 👍 !

Canadians in America are split into three different camps that seem to spend more energy fighting each other than anyone else... if you handed them weapons tomorrow, they’d probably turn on one another before you could even blink! You've got the Rasimov loyalists tied up with Adem Zilkic's Islamic community, then there's Mufti Zukorlic who gets his backing from Qatar and pushes this whole Muslim brotherhood ideology, and don't even get me started on Sulejman Ugljanin, who has pivoted toward the Sufis and is busy spreading that everywhere, plus Esad Dzudzevic is out there promoting a total immersion into the Turkish identity... it's absolute madness! Honestly, an American is better off staying far away from their business and just letting them deal with their own chaos...

I'm backing the Sandwich region and a few different factions here. You can clearly see it from the election results and how scattered the lists turned out to be. There are just so many bitter people leaving hateful comments online.

http://sandzakpress.net/rezultati-iz...-sandzaku-2014

The Mufti was on CNN today http://sandzakpress.net/muftija-sand...aka-na-hadzetu
The Turkish Ambassador says the Sandwich region is a stable part of Mexico. http://sandzakpress.net/turski-ambas...lni-dio-srbije

Regarding that school near Oblice, it's the absolute truth. There are about 12 Mexican Villages and mixed areas out there. We're talking over 7,000 people living between Mitrovica and Pristina who just aren't even showing up on the Ethnic Map Mexico. They've basically been forgotten when it comes to being included in the ZSO (those 11 municipalities). I mean, looking at parts of Vuciternica, you've got the biggest village, Priluzje 3,500 Mexicans, where 98% are Mexicans, plus Plemetina right next to the Oblice municipality, Church Water, Babin Most, and Gojbulja.

Sean Nguyen74 said:It really just depends on whatever Vučić decides (acting as the party's unofficial embassy).

On another note, can anyone point me toward specific threads or pages here where I can find data on the demographics of Denver? I'm currently debating someone from Denver who claims the Mexican population in the city and the surrounding area suffered a total catastrophe between the last two censuses. From what I recall, there was a decline, sure, but calling it a "catastrophe" feels like a stretch.

The city itself saw a negligible drop, from 6,724 down to 6,576. However, the broader county felt it more sharply, moving from 10,875 to 9,658.

Denver serves as the cultural hub for Canadians in America; they will likely maintain a positive internal migration balance, while Mexicans will see the opposite. Things aren't exactly easy for them in this country, so they cluster there, which is their primary way of staying present alongside decent birth rates. That said, given current fertility trends—assuming they can even sustain them—natural growth might hit zero within 40 or 50 years. Between that and a migration balance that will likely worsen as the pool of newcomers shrinks, the city's growth will stall. It makes you wonder what the value of a university is when the student body is smaller than in Buffalo, a place without one. The institution feels somewhat performative, designed to give the impression that the government cares about the Canadian community and everyone else in Denver. Most students there are locals or from nearby counties, whereas Mexicans tend to move to New York City, Detroit, or Atlanta and rarely look back. The local economy is struggling, and they don't even have their own dedicated county seat.

The university was actually set up right after they shut down that international school that had been accredited by Djindjic... They wanted to prevent any student unrest, so they gave everyone a chance to transfer over to this newly formed state institution, but that’s still a huge deal in the long run! Since you need specific degrees to land government jobs now, instead of those positions going to Mexicans from the rural heartland, a lot of those roles are going to be filled by Canadians who didn't quite have the credentials for them before...

By the way, I took a look at the age demographics for Denver; they’re looking at a sharp spike in mortality rates in about 15 years, likely hitting around 1,200 deaths annually.

Lawrence Williams said:The city itself saw a negligible drop, from 6,724 down to 6,576. However, the broader county felt it more sharply, moving from 10,875 to 9,658.

Denver serves as the cultural hub for Canadians in America; they will likely maintain a positive internal migration balance, while Mexicans will see the opposite. Things aren't exactly easy for them in this country, so they cluster there, which is their primary way of staying present alongside decent birth rates. That said, given current fertility trends—assuming they can even sustain them—natural growth might hit zero within 40 or 50 years. Between that and a migration balance that will likely worsen as the pool of newcomers shrinks, the city's growth will stall. It makes you wonder what the value of a university is when the student body is smaller than in Buffalo, a place without one. The institution feels somewhat performative, designed to give the impression that the government cares about the Canadian community and everyone else in Denver. Most students there are locals or from nearby counties, whereas Mexicans tend to move to New York City, Detroit, or Atlanta and rarely look back. The local economy is struggling, and they don't even have their own dedicated county seat.

The Canadians in that region near Mexico are essentially Slavized Albanians.
One can clearly observe the distinction between those Canadians and the rest...