Mission Impossible?

I can't quite recall which thread I mentioned this in, but I saw M. S. demonstrating what looked like a pretty ridiculous technique at the old Samurai gym 😁—it was some sort of Dim Mak style move that was supposedly meant to defend against a front chin grab. I figured I'd just post it here. I’d love to get some thoughts from everyone on the forums, though please, let's try to keep the bashing of instructors to a minimum
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Feel free to share any similar techniques that actually work 😈. If anyone finds the movement in the clip confusing, maybe someone could break it down for us 🙄
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So, here we have Samurai Issue No. 22, featuring Junior Lefevre on the cover
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Miran Škerl is showing how to defend against a classic front throat grab: http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4...anhvat10uh.jpg
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To be honest, I don't think this technique is worth a damn 🤮. There are probably at least five ways to handle that move that are much simpler and far more effective
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Look, since I know how rock-hard Miran Škerl's hands are—and I know exactly where those strikes land—this isn't funny to me at all.

First off, you get that feeling when you bang your elbow on a desk and feel that electric zap in your pinky... that's just biology. Second, a cheap shot to the groin? There’s zero art in that. And third—come on—a punch to the nose or the cheekbone? No mystery there either. Just basic physics.

He’ll be the first one to tell you there are way more effective ways to fight... but since the article was about Kyusho Jutsu, he showed that.

Wait, isn't that George and Zack in the photos? What year is this issue from?

Look, sure, there are simpler—and let’s be honest, more effective—ways to do this, but this isn't exactly a walk in the park...

Jamie Fowler2 is out here sounding all wise and philosophical...

Personally? If it were up to me, I’d just snap his neck. 😬

Jamie Fowler2 said:😁

Look, since I know how rock-solid those Scherkels' fingers are, and I definitely know where those strikes land, I don't find this nearly as funny as everyone else does.

I mean, first off, it’s like when you bang your elbow on a desk and get that weird electric shock running straight down to your pinky—it's just biology. Second, there's just hitting someone in the groin—that’s not some high-level skill, it’s just... well, it's hitting them in the groin. And third, just punching someone in the nose or the cheekbone area. There’s really no mystery there, honestly.

He’ll probably be the first one to tell you there are way more efficient ways to do things... but since the whole point of the article was Kyusho Jutsu, he demonstrated that.

Wait, isn't that George and Zack in the photos? Which year was that issue from again?

Who are George and Zack?

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Jamie Fowler2 said:😁

He’ll probably be the first one to tell you there are more effective methods out there... but since the article was specifically about Kyusho Jutsu, he stuck to demonstrating that.

Wait, isn't that George and Zack in the photos? Which issue is this from exactly?

Fair enough, that clears things up quite a bit. Honestly, I have no idea who else would be in those shots. As for the issue, it's the Winter 2000 edition.

briskjackal5 said:Who are George and Zack?

- Steve -

Zack is a Kempo master. The guy with the beard and long hair. He used to run grappling sessions with us down at Central Park, and he was solid...

Zlatko Pađan taught me how to grapple...

Zoran Grgos. He’s the one who got me into Shorinji Kempo back around 2001. He runs that Shaolin school right by the courthouse... also competes in all those open submission wrestling tournaments.

Jamie Fowler2 said:He’s competing in all those open submission wrestling tournaments too.

Are you even sure about that? I haven't heard that name before... 😕 Steve will probably know
. As far as technique goes, that finger-to-the-neck move can actually sting quite a bit if the guy has strong fingers
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wanderingridge said:when it comes to those techniques, poking someone in the neck with your finger can actually hurt quite a bit if you've got rock-hard fingers
I'm not really buying how effective the rest of this stuff is.

Trust me, this guy’s got hands like granite—I’ve felt it myself—so I’m pretty sure he can pull off all these moves without breaking a sweat, assuming he doesn't run into someone just as tough as he is. But honestly, the real question is whether any regular guy with average strength could even make this work.

Jamie Fowler2 said:😁

Look, since I know how hard those Scherkels hit, and I know exactly where they aim, this isn't really funny to me.

First off, you get that feeling when you smack your elbow on a desk and a tingle shoots right to your pinky—that's just biology. Second, a cheap shot from behind? That's not art, it's just a sucker punch. And third, hitting someone in the nose or the cheekbone... yeah, there's no mystery there either.

He'll probably be the first one to tell you there are more effective ways to do it... but the whole point of the article was Kyusho Jutsu, so he was just demonstrating that.

Wait, isn't that George and Zack in the photos? What year was that issue from?

Is that Dim Mak? Does Hao use that too?

George Martin70 said:Is that Dim Mak? Does Hao use that too?

Nah, just hitting people where it hurts with concrete fingers :P

As far as I know, Hao doesn't do that.

Jamie Fowler2 said:Nah, more like hitting someone with concrete fingers right where it hurts :P

As far as I know, Hao doesn't actually do that.

What on earth are "concrete fingers" even supposed to be?🤣👍 ☕ 🙏

ruggedfalcon2 said:what even are "concrete fingers" these days🤣👍 ☕ 🙏

think iron palm drills, stuff from a decade ago... stabbing makiwaras and hitting heavy bags with just your fingertips...

Jamie Fowler2 said:exercises like iron palm, which for a decade... striking makiwara and hitting heavy bags with just the fingers...

I actually do those myself😳—though I never knew they were called concrete fingers. I just always referred to it as iron palm... honestly, if you combine all that training, it’s basically reinforced concrete 😁 ☕

Listen, guys, once I finally get this guy back on his feet, I’m definitely thinking of you all. I'll be picking up the tab for some burgers and beers on me.

crimsonbison10 said:Man, once I finally get this deck up, drinks and burgers are on me...

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I'm down. As long as you teach me some Kendo moves first...

Wait, what on earth is this "iron palm" exercise?

Jonathan Johnson67 said:Wait, what on earth is this "iron palm" exercise?

You little know-it-all...🤣 🤣 🤣 (you remember this, don't you? hehe 😈 😈 )

happyman said:What even is this "iron palm" exercise?

It's like that old Bruce Lee movie... some guy loses his hand and ends up using an iron one instead.

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Jamie Fowler2 said:It’s just like that old movie with Bruce Lee... where the guy loses his arm and ends up using a prosthetic one.

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Nah, it isn't 🤣 🤣