Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Matthew Young35 said:Why?

Let those intense neurons actually be put to use.
Maybe even make them slightly useful to society.

useful in someone else's circle?
what a joke lol

and what's the link between a sharp sense of smell and memory? 😕

good nose + basic conditioning = smarts😂

Watching Pearl Harbor... I’ve always had a soft spot for war movies, especially when they feature such attractive actors...

Ashley Bailey6 said:Let those intense neurons actually be put to use.
Maybe even make them slightly useful to society.

My cat serves a purpose. His purring keeps me grounded.
He curls up in my lap, he purrs; everyone wins.
Is that not what we call coexistence? Multiculturalism? Tolerance?
With dogs, it’s a different story altogether—the dictator owner versus an obedient canine population.

Please, could you grant us this little smiley face?

That was quite a tremor in downtown Chicago just now...

Robin Fox2 said:That was quite a tremor in downtown Chicago just now...

I felt it too, honestly. I thought my mind was playing tricks on me for a second. What the hell was that??

looks like Pavle Kalinić is hooked up to the machines

Matthew Anderson4 said:useful in someone else's circle?
what a joke lol

and what's the link between a sharp sense of smell and memory? 😕

good nose + basic conditioning = smarts😂

Yeah. Useful to an intellectually superior society.
That’s why we have domestic dogs and cats—they exist for us.

And you still don't get why you're dismissing the sense of smell.

Matthew Young35 said:My cat serves a purpose. His purring keeps me grounded.
He curls up in my lap, he purrs; everyone wins.
Is that not what we call coexistence? Multiculturalism? Tolerance?
With dogs, it’s a different story altogether—the dictator owner versus an obedient canine population.

Same goes for living with a dog, except somehow people actually know how to handle them.
If training a dog requires authority, then raising a child is just as much about discipline.

Dogs can actually bond emotionally with their owners. Cats just act out of pure self-interest.
Choosing who I want by my side isn't a hard decision.

Reading about Coach Miller’s performance in the sports news—what a complete fraud. The fans are his biggest burden 🙏 I guess because they actually dare to expect something from that useless heap of nothing. Of course, whenever he needed to step up and lead the team, the guy couldn't even defend himself, let alone anything significant. But sure, blame the fans 🙏

And this garbage from Director Thompson is just the icing on the cake—he wouldn't see any reason to resign even if we lost every single game in the group stages. It’s unbelievable how many people who used to be hailed as "legends" have managed to degrade themselves just for a paycheck and petty interests. Disgusting.

Anthony Jackson2 said:Reading about Coach Miller’s performance in the sports news—what a complete fraud. The fans are his biggest burden 🙏 I guess because they actually dare to expect something from that useless heap of nothing. Of course, whenever he needed to step up and lead the team, the guy couldn't even defend himself, let alone anything significant. But sure, blame the fans 🙏

And this garbage from Director Thompson is just the icing on the cake—he wouldn't see any reason to resign even if we lost every single game in the group stages. It’s unbelievable how many people who used to be hailed as "legends" have managed to degrade themselves just for a paycheck and petty interests. Disgusting.

Chicago🤷

Ashley Bailey6 said:Yeah. Useful to an intellectually superior society.
That’s why we have domestic dogs and cats—they exist for us.

And you still don't get why you're dismissing the sense of smell.

Same goes for living with a dog, except somehow people actually know how to handle them.
If training a dog requires authority, then raising a child is just as much about discipline.

Dogs can actually bond emotionally with their owners. Cats just act out of pure self-interest.
Choosing who I want by my side isn't a hard decision.

A true intellectual, unlike swiftscout9!

If anything can teach you about dictatorship, it’s raising a child.

Precisely.

Similarly, a dog is capable of forming an emotional bond with its owner, whereas a cat does everything out of pure self-interest.

Actually, cats can form deep emotional bonds too. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly hasn't lived with a cat.

I find it easy to decide who I want by my side.

For me, it's quite a struggle.
I simply cannot decide between Shakira and Taylor Swift.

Matthew Young35 said:A true intellectual, unlike swiftscout9!

If anything can teach you about dictatorship, it’s raising a child.

Precisely.

Similarly, a dog is capable of forming an emotional bond with its owner, whereas a cat does everything out of pure self-interest.

Actually, cats can form deep emotional bonds too. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly hasn't lived with a cat.

I find it easy to decide who I want by my side.

For me, it's quite a struggle.
I simply cannot decide between Shakira and Taylor Swift.

It’s irrelevant.
The dog reflects the owner.

Matthew Young35 said:A true intellectual, unlike swiftscout9!

If anything can teach you about dictatorship, it’s raising a child.

Precisely.

Similarly, a dog is capable of forming an emotional bond with its owner, whereas a cat does everything out of pure self-interest.

Actually, cats can form deep emotional bonds too. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly hasn't lived with a cat.

I find it easy to decide who I want by my side.

For me, it's quite a struggle.
I simply cannot decide between Shakira and Taylor Swift.

If you get one at the opposite age, you end up with an idiot child or an idiot dog—something destructive and negative.
But clearly, you don't mind that.

Matthew Young35 said:A true intellectual, unlike swiftscout9!

If anything can teach you about dictatorship, it’s raising a child.

Precisely.

Similarly, a dog is capable of forming an emotional bond with its owner, whereas a cat does everything out of pure self-interest.

Actually, cats can form deep emotional bonds too. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly hasn't lived with a cat.

I find it easy to decide who I want by my side.

For me, it's quite a struggle.
I simply cannot decide between Shakira and Taylor Swift.

I’ll take my own previous comment with a grain of salt, but I haven't heard that from anyone who actually owns a cat.
Regardless, the bond is incomparable, provided the owner isn't a complete moron.
Not everyone is cut out for dogs.

Matthew Young35 said:A true intellectual, unlike swiftscout9!

If anything can teach you about dictatorship, it’s raising a child.

Precisely.

Similarly, a dog is capable of forming an emotional bond with its owner, whereas a cat does everything out of pure self-interest.

Actually, cats can form deep emotional bonds too. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly hasn't lived with a cat.

I find it easy to decide who I want by my side.

For me, it's quite a struggle.
I simply cannot decide between Shakira and Taylor Swift.

Hmm.

Or maybe just a regular girl like 😁

Ashley Bailey6 said:Yeah. Useful to an intellectually superior society.
That’s why we have domestic dogs and cats—they exist for us.

And you still don't get why you're dismissing the sense of smell.

Same goes for living with a dog, except somehow people actually know how to handle them.
If training a dog requires authority, then raising a child is just as much about discipline.

Dogs can actually bond emotionally with their owners. Cats just act out of pure self-interest.
Choosing who I want by my side isn't a hard decision.

lol, second life, self-sufficient, unique, one-of-a-kind, exists just for us 😂
maybe we exist for them, ever thought about that? 😂

haha, downplaying smell? what's there to downplay, I don't get it.
just curious what correlation you see between smelling stuff and being smart. is a dog smarter than a cat just because you used basic conditioning to teach it to bark when it catches a scent? 🙏

The Pavlovian effect.
God, I’m a genius.
(Assuming my memory hasn't completely failed me on the terminology.)

Matthew Anderson4 said:lol, second life, self-sufficient, unique, one-of-a-kind, exists just for us 😂
maybe we exist for them, ever thought about that? 😂

haha, downplaying smell? what's there to downplay, I don't get it.
just curious what correlation you see between smelling stuff and being smart. is a dog smarter than a cat just because you used basic conditioning to teach it to bark when it catches a scent? 🙏

You're leaning too hard on philosophy instead of sticking to the facts.

Why would you even think that given the first point?
They exist for us. They created a dependency on humans and moved away from the wild. Dogs embraced that role perfectly.
Cats are more like parasites—exactly what we fight against at every level.
And they aren't even aware that we recognize them as vastly inferior.

Matthew Anderson4 said:lol, second life, self-sufficient, unique, one-of-a-kind, exists just for us 😂
maybe we exist for them, ever thought about that? 😂

haha, downplaying smell? what's there to downplay, I don't get it.
just curious what correlation you see between smelling stuff and being smart. is a dog smarter than a cat just because you used basic conditioning to teach it to bark when it catches a scent? 🙏

I wasn't actually comparing raw intelligence.
I meant that all those neurons are useless if a dog ends up being more capable of intelligent functions by the end of the day.
More intelligent within our world, where both animals are just guests.

How many dead dogs do you see on the street compared to cats?

How long can a cat use its intelligence to survive as a loner?
And how long does a dumb dog live in someone's house? Who comes out ahead in terms of total intelligence?

Why am I disparaging the sense of smell?
Because it's a core component of overall intelligence.

It's like if I were to disparage a cat's whiskers; some people just act superior.

p.s. You're arguing immaturely and condescendingly without any actual substance.

YOU'RE INSANE, BENNY!

Ashley Bailey6 said:You're leaning too hard on philosophy instead of sticking to the facts.

Why would you even think that given the first point?
They exist for us. They created a dependency on humans and moved away from the wild. Dogs embraced that role perfectly.
Cats are more like parasites—exactly what we fight against at every level.
And they aren't even aware that we recognize them as vastly inferior.

I wasn't actually comparing raw intelligence.
I meant that all those neurons are useless if a dog ends up being more capable of intelligent functions by the end of the day.
More intelligent within our world, where both animals are just guests.

How many dead dogs do you see on the street compared to cats?

How long can a cat use its intelligence to survive as a loner?
And how long does a dumb dog live in someone's house? Who comes out ahead in terms of total intelligence?

Why am I disparaging the sense of smell?
Because it's a core component of overall intelligence.

It's like if I were to disparage a cat's whiskers; some people just act superior.

p.s. You're arguing immaturely and condescendingly without any actual substance.

That only applies to those dumb dogs we basically captured and put to work like slaves. Cats chose us because we had extra stuff lying around, and they figured out a tactic to charm us by catching mice and other pests. They played us.

You weren't comparing intelligence, you just said a dog is more capable of intelligent functions? 😂
And you still haven't explained how predicting epilepsy is an "intelligent function" when it’s just a dog using its nose because you trained it to be a tool. The dog doesn't know what epilepsy is. You're tripping if you think the dog uses its nose to recognize a seizure. It's not like that. The human uses the dog's nose to recognize the seizure.

Besides, where am I gonna find stray dogs? This isn't some rural village.
More people die daily in a city like Chicago than cats die on the streets (relative to their populations). Does that mean a cat is smarter than a human?

I don't get the question. A sheltered cat lives just as long as a sheltered dog. But a stray cat definitely has a better shot at surviving than a stray dog. Most dogs couldn't even figure out how to get into a trash can to eat.

Don't get why I'm "downplaying" smell by calling it a sense rather than intelligence. I've never heard anyone say, "Wow, you're so smart because you have great vision or hearing."

Intelligence is a collection of different traits. It includes being able to adapt to unknown environments and learning from experience—basically training. Dogs excel at this. Claiming cats are somehow more intelligent just because they don't care about following orders is nonsense. That’s pure theory.
I look at tangible results. I don't care what goes on inside their heads; I care about how it affects them. And dogs have the edge here.

There’s a clear parallel between theory and practice. A theory is useless if you lack the ability to put it into action to improve things for yourself and others.

Matthew Anderson4 said:That only applies to those dumb dogs we basically captured and put to work like slaves. Cats chose us because we had extra stuff lying around, and they figured out a tactic to charm us by catching mice and other pests. They played us.

You weren't comparing intelligence, you just said a dog is more capable of intelligent functions? 😂
And you still haven't explained how predicting epilepsy is an "intelligent function" when it’s just a dog using its nose because you trained it to be a tool. The dog doesn't know what epilepsy is. You're tripping if you think the dog uses its nose to recognize a seizure. It's not like that. The human uses the dog's nose to recognize the seizure.

Besides, where am I gonna find stray dogs? This isn't some rural village.
More people die daily in a city like Chicago than cats die on the streets (relative to their populations). Does that mean a cat is smarter than a human?

I don't get the question. A sheltered cat lives just as long as a sheltered dog. But a stray cat definitely has a better shot at surviving than a stray dog. Most dogs couldn't even figure out how to get into a trash can to eat.

Don't get why I'm "downplaying" smell by calling it a sense rather than intelligence. I've never heard anyone say, "Wow, you're so smart because you have great vision or hearing."

Where on earth do you live?
If we set aside natural causes, people in LA die every day from crossing busy streets, eating toxic food, or simply starving.

Matthew Anderson4 said:That only applies to those dumb dogs we basically captured and put to work like slaves. Cats chose us because we had extra stuff lying around, and they figured out a tactic to charm us by catching mice and other pests. They played us.

You weren't comparing intelligence, you just said a dog is more capable of intelligent functions? 😂
And you still haven't explained how predicting epilepsy is an "intelligent function" when it’s just a dog using its nose because you trained it to be a tool. The dog doesn't know what epilepsy is. You're tripping if you think the dog uses its nose to recognize a seizure. It's not like that. The human uses the dog's nose to recognize the seizure.

Besides, where am I gonna find stray dogs? This isn't some rural village.
More people die daily in a city like Chicago than cats die on the streets (relative to their populations). Does that mean a cat is smarter than a human?

I don't get the question. A sheltered cat lives just as long as a sheltered dog. But a stray cat definitely has a better shot at surviving than a stray dog. Most dogs couldn't even figure out how to get into a trash can to eat.

Don't get why I'm "downplaying" smell by calling it a sense rather than intelligence. I've never heard anyone say, "Wow, you're so smart because you have great vision or hearing."

Fair enough, maybe I phrased that poorly. But those sensory factors are essential tools. They allow intelligence to actually manifest within a society.
Especially in the animal kingdom, where you don't have human intervention to bail you out.
But let's not compare apples to oranges by weighing a dog or a cat against - (a human).

not even sure what to say to that. you basically just ignored my whole post 😂

living in San Diego here. where do you even live, man? all you see are old cats? 😂
more people get hit by cars daily than cats, period.
and saying a cat dies from being poisoned is somehow against "cat logic"? if you ate a Big Mac and died because someone slipped poison in it, would that make you stupid? 😂
starving isn't just a thing for certain animals either. what, stray dogs don't die of hunger? do strays not starve, just cats? 🙏