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James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
460 messages
joined Jan 2010
#8721 ·
Justin James10 said:Sure, James Anderson5 might be right about political pressure, but there’s just no amount of leverage that could force everyone to switch over to using dollars. At the end of the day, it all boils down to trust in a currency. It’s the exact same story when you look at bonds. Honestly, isn't this starting to sound a bit like a conspiracy theory?

As for those bureaucrats holding onto their cushy jobs—they actually have to work incredibly hard just to get fired, which feels like an impossible mission. I even know a philosophy professor who hasn't taught a class in four years, yet the university can't find a way to let him go. It’s a constant game of cat and mouse! Meanwhile, his paycheck hits his account like clockwork. Don't you think these collective bargaining agreements are just fundamentally broken?

We’re never going to see eye to eye on conspiracy theories. If you follow the economy, like Morgan Foster mentioned, certain patterns become pretty obvious. You aren't going to find smoking gun evidence laid out for you, just like you won't find clear explanations for specific political maneuvers here in the States. No one is foolish enough to walk through those steps step-by-step on national news. Instead, you just watch the policies unfold and look at the results. Don't forget how much tension there was recently when it came out that US intelligence agencies were spying on German leaders, or how the French complained about US agencies influencing international business bids. As I said before, you can see the fallout from these kinds of moves right here at home, looking back at the massive corporate collapses we've seen. It’s worth noting that meetings with major investment firms were happening long before those big financial crises hit, which suggests things were being coordinated well in advance. There are endless examples of this worldwide. At the end of the day, the idea of a "free market" is a joke that doesn't exist in reality. It's almost ironic seeing it championed by a country whose foundations are built on such questionable history...

When it comes to bonds, I mean, what kind of sane fund manager would stack them that heavily? You’d think they’d be diversifying to hedge against the massive US national debt... not to mention those artificial credit ratings. Between that and how rigged the global financial system feels—and our own stock market too—it really makes you question if the "free market" and the American economy are even functioning the way we're told. And don't even get me started on derivatives; that whole thing looks like one giant Ponzi scheme. Even with China, you can't influence their bond market easily, though they probably overleveraged themselves early on just to secure trade deals with the West... which forced them to buy back their own holdings later just to stop their portfolios from tanking. Still, they're definitely trying to find ways to move away from being so tied to the dollar...

Justin James10 said:But really, how else could one possibly describe the narrative of a decaying West?

Life isn't exactly black and white, though maybe that's just how things feel around here. We're stuck in this strange mix of old-school bureaucracy and a pretty stripped-down version of capitalism... Communism hasn't worked historically, but I don't see this global brand of capitalism as the answer either. It seems to lack any real ethics, leading to massive abuses that affect everyone. What good is a system that ultimately destroys our oceans, wipes out biodiversity, and leaves us with pollution we won't fix for centuries? And when you consider that the top 1% holds half the world's wealth, you have to wonder what kind of future that builds for humanity. Even the feudal lords used to understand their social responsibility a bit better than today's billionaires...
shadowmarlin22 shadowmarlin22 Active Member
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joined Mar 2018
#8722 ·
The dollar, stripped down to its core, is basically useless—just like any other fiat currency out there. Look at the history: the dollar had 775 units back in the day, now it’s down to 600; the British Pound has lost about 99.5% of its value since it was even a thing, and so on. It always ends the same way—either you hit hyperinflation, a war breaks out, or someone forces a massive reform. I mean, it wasn't even that long ago that we moved away from the gold standard, and once the dollar became purely fiat, it lost 85% of its value in less than 50 years. Whether it leads to a global conflict or something else entirely, who knows? But the collapse of a system built on the dollar is inevitable, especially when almost every major currency today is just fiat rather than actual money. Gold and silver are still standing, which explains why everyone is losing their minds over crypto—you can't just print it whenever you feel like it because there's a hard limit. There's a massive supply shortage right now, but that might actually be one potential fix. Historically, after every single fiat collapse, governments and central banks just roll out a new fiat currency to replace it. It’s a cycle—why wouldn't they just print money endlessly and lend it to various central banks at interest rates that haven't even been printed yet? Then they print more to pay off the old interest, and the whole thing just keeps spinning. It’s pretty much the history of all currency—it's always the same bullshit.
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
460 messages
joined Jan 2010
#8723 ·
If I remember correctly, the Swiss franc was one of the last currencies partially backed by gold, maybe around 10%... this whole other situation just feels like a massive manipulation designed to benefit the most powerful players.

Take LIBOR, for example. Major banks like Deutsche Bank and Barclays had to pay huge fines for rigging those interest rates on the London interbank market, and they only faced consequences because the U.S. government stepped in and sued them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-libor-probes

It’s the same story with gold prices. We all know what happened with the subprime crisis, and we definitely know who ended up footing the bill. It makes you wonder how much of the economic success in Western nations is actually due to efficient systems versus things like neo-colonialism, financial manipulation, or even using intelligence agencies for economic gain... nobody really does a deep dive into that. Even our own economy would look different if we were paying interest on bonds like the Americans have been doing for the last 20 years. The same goes for the financing costs for our businesses and citizens, whether it's mortgages or personal loans. Sure, we dealt with higher interest rates because we were labeled a high-risk economy, but when you realize the same agencies giving us those ratings were also slapping AAA labels on ultra-junk American bonds, it really makes you think...
Morgan Foster Morgan Foster Active Member
59 messages
joined Nov 2012
#8724 ·
James Anderson5 said:If I remember correctly, the Swiss franc was one of the last currencies partially backed by gold, maybe around 10%... this whole other situation just feels like a massive manipulation designed to benefit the most powerful players.

Take LIBOR, for example. Major banks like Deutsche Bank and Barclays had to pay huge fines for rigging those interest rates on the London interbank market, and they only faced consequences because the U.S. government stepped in and sued them.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-libor-probes

It’s the same story with gold prices. We all know what happened with the subprime crisis, and we definitely know who ended up footing the bill. It makes you wonder how much of the economic success in Western nations is actually due to efficient systems versus things like neo-colonialism, financial manipulation, or even using intelligence agencies for economic gain... nobody really does a deep dive into that. Even our own economy would look different if we were paying interest on bonds like the Americans have been doing for the last 20 years. The same goes for the financing costs for our businesses and citizens, whether it's mortgages or personal loans. Sure, we dealt with higher interest rates because we were labeled a high-risk economy, but when you realize the same agencies giving us those ratings were also slapping AAA labels on ultra-junk American bonds, it really makes you think...

Before our recent financial reset, we were essentially Greece—bankrupt and economically dead. We split off just as we were, and naturally, nobody wanted to touch the American banking sector. I won't dwell too much on this, but the administration at the time saw big European banks as our only potential buyers—provided we handed over the keys to our entire economic engine. Some of our banks were actually bailed out using taxpayer money right before they were sold, just so they could be handed over...
You simply can't function without banks, and let's be honest—those foreign conglomerates charged us a massive premium for our sovereignty. The rating agencies—if you can even call them that—did their dirty work back then; every player involved in that criminal privatization walked away without losing a shred of dignity. Everything else is just history...
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
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#8725 ·
Plus, we ended up tanking some of our own banks that actually had real potential, all while letting the big state institutions crumble under bad management and shady loans... but I guess that's all in the past now.
Jonathan Barnes5 Jonathan Barnes5 Active Member
191 messages
joined Jul 2018
#8726 ·
It seems most of you haven't spent much time handling the daily grind of retail trading, yet somehow you possess an intuitive grasp of how high-stakes options play out on a massive scale.🙏
I suppose it’s because you've all devoured Michael Lewis's work...😁..

To be honest, I don't quite understand why a handful of you don't just power through all three levels of the CFA program and dive straight into the feast of collecting management fees. It would certainly be a kindness to the rest of this forum if you did.

Alternatively, you could join the ranks of the big investment banks and go after conquering the market head-on.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8727 ·
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James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
460 messages
joined Jan 2010
#8728 ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:It seems most of you haven't spent much time handling the daily grind of retail trading, yet somehow you possess an intuitive grasp of how high-stakes options play out on a massive scale.🙏
I suppose it’s because you've all devoured Michael Lewis's work...😁..

To be honest, I don't quite understand why a handful of you don't just power through all three levels of the CFA program and dive straight into the feast of collecting management fees. It would certainly be a kindness to the rest of this forum if you did.

Alternatively, you could join the ranks of the big investment banks and go after conquering the market head-on.

And who says none of us haven't finished the CFA and traded seriously? Besides, what exactly makes you think that guarantees anyone's success on Wall Street... 🤣

Well, I can see you really know your stuff, so I won't say another word... 😁
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#8729 ·
On another note—some far-right extremist from Argentina, whose ancestors were basically flushed down the drain back in '45—just went ahead and declared them martyrs 🤦
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8730 ·
I feel incredibly awkward having to play defense attorney for a certain holiday tradition, but let’s be real: nobody actually said that—it’s just a wild fabrication designed to smear the New York Yankees ☕

I have relatives spanning from Peru through Chile all the way down to Argentina. More or less, they all share the same history: fleeing from pure terror. I don't want to dwell on it and clutter up this thread, but there were actual scenes of entire families being burned alive in their homes and such. It’s far too easy for people to just label everything as extremist and wish them all gone 🙄
Morgan Foster Morgan Foster Active Member
59 messages
joined Nov 2012
#8731 ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:It seems most of you haven't spent much time handling the daily grind of retail trading, yet somehow you possess an intuitive grasp of how high-stakes options play out on a massive scale.🙏
I suppose it’s because you've all devoured Michael Lewis's work...😁..

To be honest, I don't quite understand why a handful of you don't just power through all three levels of the CFA program and dive straight into the feast of collecting management fees. It would certainly be a kindness to the rest of this forum if you did.

Alternatively, you could join the ranks of the big investment banks and go after conquering the market head-on.

😁

We didn't really say anything out of the ordinary—just pointed out a few facts that you can find on any news site if you bother to look... It’s worth having a debate now and then, just a bit of back-and-forth, but I'll leave everyone to draw their own conclusions. I have no interest in forcing my views on anyone...

I know—this gray theme could use a little more life. I’d suggest starting with a black and red combo... they say that combination always works. ☕

And what exactly makes you think that guarantees you'll be crushing it on the stock market...

Typical average thinking on these forums. Just move aside—let me pass... I have my paperwork ready and I'm heading out to claim my success, a career, money, whatever... 🙏
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#8732 ·
Justin James10 said:I feel incredibly awkward having to play defense attorney for a certain holiday tradition, but let’s be real: nobody actually said that—it’s just a wild fabrication designed to smear the New York Yankees ☕

I have relatives spanning from Peru through Chile all the way down to Argentina. More or less, they all share the same history: fleeing from pure terror. I don't want to dwell on it and clutter up this thread, but there were actual scenes of entire families being burned alive in their homes and such. It’s far too easy for people to just label everything as extremist and wish them all gone 🙄

Well, if they had actually won World War II, I suppose we wouldn't be having such an easy time with reintegration today.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8733 ·
brightpilot6 said:Well, if they had actually won World War II, I suppose we wouldn't be having such an easy time with reintegration today.

The whole group was just composed of fascists.🙄

It’s funny how we always seem to be on the exact same wavelength as our neighbors to the East, isn't it?🙄
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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joined Oct 2012
#8734 ·
It’s a mistake to assume everyone on one side was a saint, just as it would be equally wrong to claim that everyone who fled the country was a martyr.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8735 ·
brightpilot6 said:It’s a mistake to assume everyone on one side was a saint, just as it would be equally wrong to claim that everyone who fled the country was a martyr.

They certainly weren't. It’s just that the Bolsheviks didn't have anyone left to hold them accountable. Take my grandmother, for example—she was saved by a relative fighting for the underground movement, and even then, her hands were practically tied. Why? Because she hadn't provided enough supplies to the "people's army." My mother's aunt was pregnant when she was brutally attacked by a soldier. I suppose she was carrying a little insurgent, wasn't she? 🙄
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#8736 ·
I don't doubt for a second that all sorts of things happened behind the scenes.

But I am entirely certain that things would have been twice as bad had the other side emerged victorious—and I’m not just talking about the immediate aftermath of the war.
Sam Fisher57 Sam Fisher57 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Mar 2018
#8737 ·
Justin James10 said:They certainly weren't. It’s just that the Bolsheviks didn't have anyone left to hold them accountable. Take my grandmother, for example—she was saved by a relative fighting for the underground movement, and even then, her hands were practically tied. Why? Because she hadn't provided enough supplies to the "people's army." My mother's aunt was pregnant when she was brutally attacked by a soldier. I suppose she was carrying a little insurgent, wasn't she? 🙄

It was a different world, governed by different rules.
graniteheron132 graniteheron132 Active Member
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joined Apr 2010
#8738 ·
Hey, what's up, Sam Fisher57? How's it going?
Sam Fisher57 Sam Fisher57 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Mar 2018
#8739 ·
Here it is. You interested in buying a brick?
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#8740 ·
Man, just twenty-eight more posts until I hit the status for the big leagues on Reddit.

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