Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Jessica Gonzalez said:The world isn't perfect, and soccer definitely isn't either. I guess any attempt to sell perfection is just a lie. Soccer filled stadiums long before television was even a thing, and it stays popular because of the game itself, not because of whether the officiating is perfectly accurate or not.

Look, since we’re basically saying all these myths, legends, and that supposed "charm" are just products of lazy officiating, your conclusion doesn't hold water. Throw it out.

Nobody’s talking about perfection when it comes to VAR or whatever tech they're using for officiating at the big tournaments. It's not even about that. It's about trying to actually enforce the rules. Most of the "hype" lately is just people getting worked up over rules that nobody follows anyway. Honestly, arguing whether a call was a red card or a penalty in some semifinal? Save your breath. Who cares.

If it’s actually pure, there shouldn't be any tricks or hidden agendas involved. Just keeping it real.

Jessica Gonzalez said:I think it's really about the focus and the overall direction things are heading. It feels like the emphasis is shifting toward style over substance. Officiating seems to have become this massive secondary distraction rather than being the core of the game. Even at the local park level, people just play without refs. It's almost like the big stadiums too, where billions of dollars are poured into infrastructure for a sport that probably doesn't actually require that kind of scale.

It’s not even about getting better officiating. It’s about all the shady manipulation happening within the systems—football included. Honestly, thank God those overpaid prima donnas could play a match without a ref, otherwise the whole world would just collapse under its own logic.

Plus, if you actually treated officiating like part of the game, the consistency wouldn't be such a joke. Nobody would be losing their minds over some random yellow or red card—everyone would just be focused on how good the actual football was.

The world isn't perfect, so there's really no point in trying to fine-tune football technology just to chase the dream of perfectly fair refereeing decisions...

In the style of Serena Williams

Walter Grant5 said:More correct referee calls means less magic in the beautiful game. Honestly, if they nail every single penalty or foul perfectly, we won't have anyone to blame when things go south. We lose our loser's alibi. It’s the end of football mythmaking and those fake legends people write about. Read this and tell me why you disagree ☕

Screw Dezhulovic, man. We didn't even think about this one. 😲 If officiating actually gets accurate, what happens to our whole existence here?! Why even watch soccer if I can't troll around? What's the point? 🤣 But seriously, I'm being for real now. For any true troll, this is a death sentence. I knew I had a legitimate reason for posting on these forums, I just couldn't break through that last barrier. I was being too objective and constructive, totally shutting out my own feelings and how this affects us—whatever "us" even means (honestly, who picks these usernames?). Now, because I fell victim to being "constructive," it's too late to fix anything. 😢

So, what are we actually looking at here?

Walter Grant5 said:Look, since we’re basically saying all these myths, legends, and that supposed "charm" are just products of lazy officiating, your conclusion doesn't hold water. Throw it out.

Nobody’s talking about perfection when it comes to VAR or whatever tech they're using for officiating at the big tournaments. It's not even about that. It's about trying to actually enforce the rules. Most of the "hype" lately is just people getting worked up over rules that nobody follows anyway. Honestly, arguing whether a call was a red card or a penalty in some semifinal? Save your breath. Who cares.

If it’s actually pure, there shouldn't be any tricks or hidden agendas involved. Just keeping it real.

It’s not even about getting better officiating. It’s about all the shady manipulation happening within the systems—football included. Honestly, thank God those overpaid prima donnas could play a match without a ref, otherwise the whole world would just collapse under its own logic.

Plus, if you actually treated officiating like part of the game, the consistency wouldn't be such a joke. Nobody would be losing their minds over some random yellow or red card—everyone would just be focused on how good the actual football was.

That sounds good in theory, and I think I see where you're coming from, but the direction we're heading isn't just about refereeing. Technology itself is creeping into the sport at every level, and it feels like it's stripping the soul out of the game. I really mean that. I once heard a CEO from a major tech firm explain how they want to cover stadiums with antennas so fans have perfect connectivity everywhere, claiming a virtual experience is just as vital as being there in person. It's like they want us watching the game while simultaneously scrolling through our phones to check stats or posting selfies at Yankee Stadium. They market these 4K broadcasts just so I can watch a player struggle with basic ball control in high definition on my new Samsung TV. In the States, they're installing artificial turf in most stadiums and arenas just so they don't have to deal with mud or rain during a match. I guess it just makes everything feel so monotonous, like every single game starts looking identical. We have these 3D slow-motion cameras now that allow commentators to argue about how a striker's nose was 15 centimeters ahead of the last defender, without anyone actually questioning if the rule even makes sense anymore. Back in the day, tickets were affordable, but now for a standard seat at Madison Square Garden, you practically have to shell out $167. And then someone tells me FIFA has to adopt this tech just to keep up with the times, like the NFL or other similar trends. Soccer has been played for 150 years—in various forms for centuries, even millennia—and now it's supposedly facing extinction if we don't implement some 3D video algorithm for offsides? I don't really buy that, especially when it seems driven by television interests. Everything seems designed for TV ratings and profit. You don't see goal-line technology in local recreational leagues, and they aren't using 3D sensors to measure inches, yet that "old school" version of the game is still played all over the world.

🙏 🙏

At least this is finally where the discussion belongs. Total garbage. 😂

The Hawk-eye system has flagged some pretty clear patterns of constructive engagement on this thread. I’m asking the moderators to take a look at the logs and step in with some strict enforcement.

Michelle Palmer6 said:🙏 🙏

Haha, they definitely handled them pretty well.

Matthew Anderson4 said:Screw Dezhulovic, man. We didn't even think about this one. 😲 If officiating actually gets accurate, what happens to our whole existence here?! Why even watch soccer if I can't troll around? What's the point? 🤣 But seriously, I'm being for real now. For any true troll, this is a death sentence. I knew I had a legitimate reason for posting on these forums, I just couldn't break through that last barrier. I was being too objective and constructive, totally shutting out my own feelings and how this affects us—whatever "us" even means (honestly, who picks these usernames?). Now, because I fell victim to being "constructive," it's too late to fix anything. 😢

You can always troll about player skill levels or trophy counts. It’s easy. Once you stop letting those refereeing blunders cloud your vision, everything becomes crystal clear and way harder to argue against. Do we actually want that clarity? I don't know. Why do we keep ignoring the truth just for a little bit of fake satisfaction? Maybe we just aren't meant to buy into the lies and the myths anymore. Humans have been tearing those down for thousands of years already.

Jessica Gonzalez said:That sounds good in theory, and I think I see where you're coming from, but the direction we're heading isn't just about refereeing. Technology itself is creeping into the sport at every level, and it feels like it's stripping the soul out of the game. I really mean that. I once heard a CEO from a major tech firm explain how they want to cover stadiums with antennas so fans have perfect connectivity everywhere, claiming a virtual experience is just as vital as being there in person. It's like they want us watching the game while simultaneously scrolling through our phones to check stats or posting selfies at Yankee Stadium. They market these 4K broadcasts just so I can watch a player struggle with basic ball control in high definition on my new Samsung TV. In the States, they're installing artificial turf in most stadiums and arenas just so they don't have to deal with mud or rain during a match. I guess it just makes everything feel so monotonous, like every single game starts looking identical. We have these 3D slow-motion cameras now that allow commentators to argue about how a striker's nose was 15 centimeters ahead of the last defender, without anyone actually questioning if the rule even makes sense anymore. Back in the day, tickets were affordable, but now for a standard seat at Madison Square Garden, you practically have to shell out $167. And then someone tells me FIFA has to adopt this tech just to keep up with the times, like the NFL or other similar trends. Soccer has been played for 150 years—in various forms for centuries, even millennia—and now it's supposedly facing extinction if we don't implement some 3D video algorithm for offsides? I don't really buy that, especially when it seems driven by television interests. Everything seems designed for TV ratings and profit. You don't see goal-line technology in local recreational leagues, and they aren't using 3D sensors to measure inches, yet that "old school" version of the game is still played all over the world.

We missed each other there. I was strictly talking about officiating, not how they use tech on players or all that marketing hype. To me, what’s actually killing the soul of the game is the coaching. These managers stick to rigid strategies that box teams in instead of evolving on both levels—the squad level and the individual level. Now, everyone just becomes a cog in the machine, basically clones of one another. There's zero individuality left. I don't think high-def replays are the reason for that. It's deeper than some video footage.

Karen Sanchez35 said:I'm hunting for a YouTube link to that one match where the goalkeeper catches the ball, then uses it like a slingshot—basically a rubber band shot—straight into the chest of a striker charging at him. If I recall correctly, it was some lower-tier American league, maybe something involving a team like St. Louis City SC or similar... I just remember the ref pulling out the reddest card anyone has ever seen in his life...

thanks

Probably not quite this—since it isn't the Midwest—but it’s definitely in the same ballpark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpmuKAkB3R8

And here’s some more for you... 🤦

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tazlx_uIUeY

I haven't had a chance to sit down and really dig into this video yet—my schedule has been a bit of a disaster lately—but I did manage to pull it up earlier while I was grabbing coffee. It’s one of those things that looks straightforward on the surface, you know? But once you start peeling back the layers... well, there's always more than meets the eye. Just my two cents for now.

ruggedjackal46 said:The Hawk-eye system has flagged some pretty clear patterns of constructive engagement on this thread. I’m asking the moderators to take a look at the logs and step in with some strict enforcement.

Everything just goes straight to hell whenever Walter Grant5 decides to show up on this board☕

Patrick Martin said:Everything just goes straight to hell whenever Walter Grant5 decides to show up on this board☕

Don't go feeling sorry for me. ☕

We’re all waiting for Hercules, though I suspect it will just be another generic Hollywood production... Rock was practically built for these kinds of roles, after all.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...911453&fref=nf

Bogisus 🙏

just a lady for a single buck

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Amanda Evans2 said:Isn't that the prequel to Psycho? I saw the trailer, looks decent enough...

Ashley Bailey6 said:I think it’s great.

Try to find out by tomorrow if those idiots are full of it.
The trailer looks decent. If the movie turns out to be trash, at least the effects might be good.

nimblemarlin9 said:Pretty solid... definitely worth sticking around to see how this plays out... 🙂

Top tier. Absolutely top tier. I mean, if you can even call it that anymore in this day and age... everything feels so diluted, doesn't it? But this? This is actually decent. Truly. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic, which is a dangerous game to play, I suppose. Regardless... yeah. It's great. 🙏 🙏 🙏

Honestly, it was probably for the best that after that second episode on ABC, I just decided to cut the cord and power through the rest of season one in basically a single sitting. I mean, maybe I shouldn't have rushed it, but I just couldn't deal with the pacing... I guess I just had to get it over with. 🙏 🙏

Eric Fox7 said:

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bluebison47 said:Top tier. Absolutely top tier. I mean, if you can even call it that anymore in this day and age... everything feels so diluted, doesn't it? But this? This is actually decent. Truly. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic, which is a dangerous game to play, I suppose. Regardless... yeah. It's great. 🙏 🙏 🙏

Honestly, it was probably for the best that after that second episode on ABC, I just decided to cut the cord and power through the rest of season one in basically a single sitting. I mean, maybe I shouldn't have rushed it, but I just couldn't deal with the pacing... I guess I just had to get it over with. 🙏 🙏

Yeah, I'm totally with you, this show is freaking incredible.

Have you checked out the second season yet?

Verica 😍