Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Handing out apartments to athletes and artists is just pure 🤮

What’s actually wild is how people always pick one side to blame, when in reality, both sides have been handing stuff out left and right. In Miami, it seems like every single singer lives in a city-owned apartment. Apparently, they can't make enough bank from their gigs, so they need a little nudge.

Absolute communist nonsense.

Everyone just wants their hand held and freebies handed out on a silver platter.

Nobody in this entire country actually works a decent job. Seriously, why does he think he’s somehow more important than the massive crowd of regular people who are also struggling to find housing and living on way less cash than they are? But hey, screw the poor, right?

Nancy Sanchez31 said:Why does that even bother you? I’d rather live in 400 square feet right downtown than in 700 square feet out in the suburbs in some place built like a joke.
When I saw photos of those apartments they tore down, it looked like someone just stacked bricks and mud together and then slapped a coat of paint over it to make it look halfway decent.

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The dictator with the ruins

I love the logic that restrictions will ease once case numbers drop after five or six days—as if we can't just manipulate the testing rates to make those numbers look whatever we want. Since all this data is public, they can't hide the truth, yet we’re still completely at the mercy of some unaccountable agency that answers to nobody—just a group doing whatever they please regardless of federal law.

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Paul Sanders5 said:Honestly, I’m just hoping the folks in NYC show their massive hearts and find a spot for these amazing people. And once they're settled? We should definitely help them fix up their place—they've more than earned it.

There are plenty of faces out there today, but honestly, you can barely find a decent soul. 😢

Someone on the forum was joking around about how downtown real estate is going to tank now.
Most of them feel the exact same way. Honestly, once the government steps in to fix those places up, the value is just going to skyrocket. That privileged crowd in America thinks they can get away with anything.

William Kim said:Someone on the forum was joking around about how downtown real estate is going to tank now.
Most of them feel the exact same way. Honestly, once the government steps in to fix those places up, the value is just going to skyrocket. That privileged crowd in America thinks they can get away with anything.

I’m not sure where the "privileged elite" live in a place like Boise, but in Washington, D.C., they mostly congregate around The White House, Central Park, or tucked away in those illegal "luxury villas" in the upscale suburbs. Even in those neighborhoods, you'll find plenty of regular people who aren't part of that entitled class.
The downtown area and the surrounding metro districts are mostly inhabited by perfectly normal people.

If 300-something people have actually recovered by now, what kind of math are these people doing to keep counting them as infected?

https://www.telegram.us/politics-crisis-plan-for-the-future/

We honestly haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to testing, and once we actually start ramping things up, we're going to see those infection numbers spike, which means we won't be seeing any easing of restrictions for weeks from this point on, I'm telling you. It’s honestly wild that we haven't stepped up the testing volume yet, like, this is a massive oversight at this stage, regardless of what anyone else thinks 🤦

Just look at how things are playing out, especially for everyone hoping for even a partial tourism season, because if we don't kick off heavy testing in May, while the rest of Europe is seeing case numbers drop, we'll be stuck in this weird bubble where cases are rising right here in America, and pretty soon we'll be the ones making headlines in all the major global news outlets 🤦

Look at those numbers 🤣 there are 6 billion people on this planet, and we're sitting here with how many, like, a million infected? 🤣

man, damn... it would be a total disaster if some actual lethal plague hit us next..

wiredrider9 said:If 300-something people have actually recovered by now, what kind of math are these people doing to keep counting them as infected?

Look, the way everyone tracks this globally, the main number everyone focuses on is just the total number of positive tests, which is how it's been set up from day one, but there is also a separate count for people currently active with the virus, though that number doesn't get nearly as much hype or attention in the headlines.

The Americans are going to be testing everyone throughout the summer, then they’ll really kick things into high gear by autumn, and honestly, they’re already looking at a full recovery by 2021. Here, though, we won't see anything resembling a recovery until somewhere around 2027. 🤦

The Germans tested about 1.7 million people, which is only like 2% of their total population. 🙏🙏

Paul Sanders5 said:Look at those numbers 🤣 there are 6 billion people on this planet, and we're sitting here with how many, like, a million infected? 🤣

man, damn... it would be a total disaster if some actual lethal plague hit us next..

7 billion

restlesssurfer97 said:Look, the way everyone tracks this globally, the main number everyone focuses on is just the total number of positive tests, which is how it's been set up from day one, but there is also a separate count for people currently active with the virus, though that number doesn't get nearly as much hype or attention in the headlines.

Well, duh. They don't emphasize it because you can only spread so much fear before people just stop listening.

7.8 billion

restlesssurfer97 said:The Americans are going to be testing everyone throughout the summer, then they’ll really kick things into high gear by autumn, and honestly, they’re already looking at a full recovery by 2021. Here, though, we won't see anything resembling a recovery until somewhere around 2027. 🤦

The Germans tested about 1.7 million people, which is only like 2% of their total population. 🙏🙏

And those tests could be about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
You know why, of course.

It’s because those people being tested can become infectious again the very next day.

The only testing that would actually offer any real benefit for containment would be real-time testing coupled with real-time oversight from the relevant authorities.

Of course, that is completely unacceptable, even if it were technically feasible. I don't feel like explaining why. You could try making it anonymous, but who would convince the anti-vaxxers?

Nah.

You’ve got to scale up, because honestly, the absolute worst thing you can do is fail to test people, which is exactly what Indonesia was doing until just four weeks ago, whereas the gold standard would be testing every single citizen at 9 in the morning every day. ☕
And within that spectrum, you’ve got everything from a total disaster to a flawless strategy, so really, it’s always better to just test more, and more, and even more...

As for those serology tests—you know, the antibody ones, feel free to correct me if I'm off base here—those are the tests we’re all actually waiting for, and they're already being rolled out, though we haven't seen any official stats yet.
It honestly makes me so happy to see how mass-scale the testing is in Germany and the US, which personally gives me the most hope, and I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see that the Russians aren't lagging behind at all. Anyone wondering why there's such a huge spike in Russia should realize that the Russians have also started running massive testing operations pretty recently, and even the Turks—if I remember right, maybe two or three weeks ago, they didn't have a single infected person.

restlesssurfer97 said:Nah.

You’ve got to scale up, because honestly, the absolute worst thing you can do is fail to test people, which is exactly what Indonesia was doing until just four weeks ago, whereas the gold standard would be testing every single citizen at 9 in the morning every day. ☕
And within that spectrum, you’ve got everything from a total disaster to a flawless strategy, so really, it’s always better to just test more, and more, and even more...

As for those serology tests—you know, the antibody ones, feel free to correct me if I'm off base here—those are the tests we’re all actually waiting for, and they're already being rolled out, though we haven't seen any official stats yet.
It honestly makes me so happy to see how mass-scale the testing is in Germany and the US, which personally gives me the most hope, and I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see that the Russians aren't lagging behind at all. Anyone wondering why there's such a huge spike in Russia should realize that the Russians have also started running massive testing operations pretty recently, and even the Turks—if I remember right, maybe two or three weeks ago, they didn't have a single infected person.

You have to take several unknowns as a given. Honestly, that’s why this virus is such a nightmare; nobody actually knows anything reliable about it yet.

First off, how much will it mutate? It hasn't even been six months since it first appeared.

Second, is it seasonal? That matters immensely because, unlike the flu, we might not have enough time to prepare for a seasonal wave or get a vaccine ready.

Third, there are reports of people getting reinfected. While these accounts might be unreliable, considering how little we know about this virus, it would be foolish to assume that catching it once grants permanent immunity.

Fourth, the time and resources required for testing are finite, even if the tests themselves are free.

Fifth, how do you actually force everyone to get tested? How do you reach the people showing absolutely no symptoms?

There is more to consider, but that should be enough to start with.

There isn't any official data out there regarding how many tests they’re actually running in China, so we have no real way of knowing just how much those Chinese officials are actually helping out during this pandemic, and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they're just pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.

I’m trying to follow Kenekov's logic here. We've got 7.5 billion people on the planet, 2 million infected (though it's probably higher than that, let's be real), with about 500,000 recoveries and 133,000 deaths.

That works out to roughly 0.026% infection rate and a total death rate of 0.0017% relative to the global population. And yet, somehow, the whole world just stopped.

restlesssurfer97 said:There isn't any official data out there regarding how many tests they’re actually running in China, so we have no real way of knowing just how much those Chinese officials are actually helping out during this pandemic, and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they're just pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.

Oh, please. Did anyone honestly believe they weren't playing games?

The best part is watching Trump's big reveals about how the Chinese were lying to him.
LOL
I mean, really? As the leader of a nation that spends more on intelligence than Duke Energy does on its entire workforce, you're telling me he didn't have that intel?
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