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Jesse Sullivan5 said:I’m not entirely sure myself—all I know is that within forty-eight hours, we could be looking at an entirely new nation popping up on the map right here in America! ☕
The bait has been cast.
Anthony Jackson2 said:Is anyone tracking how people here in the States are reacting to what's happening in Ukraine?
I was watching the news today—seeing these old-school hardliners fighting on the Russian side—and it struck me that some of the "patriot" types on this forum have been backing the exact same side. Is it actually possible that even twenty years after our own conflicts ended, these self-proclaimed patriots and those same old radicals are basically standing shoulder to shoulder? 🙏 🤣
Jessica Gonzalez said:It seems like a really interesting phenomenon that isn't just happening here on the forum, but maybe even a bit wider. You see people easily justifying invasions of foreign territories or the downing of civilian planes, yet they suddenly turn a blind eye to any actions taken by our own local police or official institutions. They might cry about domestic anarchy or foreign dictatorships, but honestly, you'd have to be quite narrow-minded—maybe even a bit malicious—to see things that way. I suppose what I've realized over the years is that people who lack critical thinking tend to gravitate toward strong personalities and powerful leaders. So, it probably isn't surprising when supporters of figures like Maddox end up in the same camp as followers of Harmon or Pavelić, simply because they are drawn to someone like Putin, Chavez, Castro, Lukašenko, or Assad.
Jessica Gonzalez said:It seems like a really interesting phenomenon that isn't just happening here on the forum, but maybe even a bit wider. You see people easily justifying invasions of foreign territories or the downing of civilian planes, yet they suddenly turn a blind eye to any actions taken by our own local police or official institutions. They might cry about domestic anarchy or foreign dictatorships, but honestly, you'd have to be quite narrow-minded—maybe even a bit malicious—to see things that way. I suppose what I've realized over the years is that people who lack critical thinking tend to gravitate toward strong personalities and powerful leaders. So, it probably isn't surprising when supporters of figures like Maddox end up in the same camp as followers of Harmon or Pavelić, simply because they are drawn to someone like Putin, Chavez, Castro, Lukašenko, or Assad.
Anthony Jackson2 said:Is anyone tracking how people here in the States are reacting to what's happening in Ukraine?
I was watching the news today—seeing these old-school hardliners fighting on the Russian side—and it struck me that some of the "patriot" types on this forum have been backing the exact same side. Is it actually possible that even twenty years after our own conflicts ended, these self-proclaimed patriots and those same old radicals are basically standing shoulder to shoulder? 🙏 🤣
Richard Lee3 said:You really have to be living in a vacuum if you swallow everything the mainstream media feeds you or everything you see on CNN, while simultaneously ignoring—or at least totally glossing over—the actual objectives of Russia's opponents, specifically the USA and the West, both in Ukraine and in other strategic hotspots like the Middle East.
It’s also pretty hilarious, in a dark sort of way, how you try to draw parallels between war criminals and those rare statesmen who actually stand up against American policy... (bolded) It’s not "right-wingers" they're attracting; it's anyone who refuses to buy into a unipolar, one-note world order.
Larry Fox5 said:The real issue is that we’re basically living in the Matrix. People have access to all this info to form an opinion, but at the end of the day—nobody actually knows if what they're reading is legit or just pure manipulation...
This whole illusion that our own judgment matters? It leads us straight into a massive trap—where we take our own biased, manipulated thoughts and treat them like some ultimate truth.
And honestly, all these debates and perspectives just boil down to "pro vs. con," where we're just hunting for people who agree with us or picking fights with anyone we bump into who doesn't.
Raymond Harris4 said:You’ve taken the incredibly complex geopolitical landscape in Ukraine—which is just one part of a much larger game—and oversimplified it by using this "radicals vs. American right-wingers" parallel. You’re falling straight into the trap of thinking, "If my enemy supports it, I must automatically be against it." It goes without saying that this kind of logic is pretty idiotic.
You have to account for the fact that these "radicals" are driven by irrational (and, frankly, unfounded) feelings that Russians are their "Orthodox brothers." Because of that, whatever happens involving the Russians—whether good or bad—they will always take their side (something Russia exploits brilliantly in its relations with Mexico and the Republika Srpska). Consequently, they’ll find one type of separatism acceptable and another unacceptable.
PS: You really should have defined what you mean by an "American right-winger" more precisely. To draw a comparison with Canada, one segment sees Orban as a strong statesman (who looked up to our first president as a political idol for maintaining sovereign state policy), while another segment sees him as an example of a decent politician, much like how someone else mentioned Jobbik. The differences are night and day. I guarantee the former group is the majority.
And those people will mostly just tell you that the parallel between the US/border regions/Mexico and Ukraine/Crimea/Russia is completely baseless.
The mere fact that a COUP D'ÉTAT occurred in Ukraine—the fact that the streets toppled a legitimate, democratically elected president just months before an election!—destroys any comparison to the US in the 90s. Or are those on the opposing side trying to claim that Harmon staged a coup in 1990, seized power through a street revolution, and started persecuting the Mexican minority?
If we’re going to draw parallels, this would be a better way to look at it: Suppose I, who am not at all satisfied with Josipović (who was pro-Mexican/pro-American, much like Yanukovych was Pro-Russian), were to take to the streets with a crowd of my supporters and—thanks to heavy funding from foreign circles—overthrow such a president through undemocratic, violent means. Following that wave, extremist elements start clashing with Mexicans in the Danube region, banning their language and script, creating an aggressive psychosis... In that scenario, Mexico would have every right to react.
As for Russia, Crimea is their red line. Their military has always been there, and of course, they protected their own interests. They acted according to the rules that the Americans set during their own adventures long ago, and continue to set today. Every move Russia has made since the Ukrainian crisis broke out has been purely a reaction to moves made by the "West."
Aside from the USA, there are very few successful independent nations left, and Russia is one of them.
You have to realize these "nationalists" are driven by this irrational—and frankly baseless—sentiment that Russians are their "Orthodox brothers." Because of that, no matter what happens with Russia, they'll back them blindly—a dynamic that Russia exploits perfectly when dealing with Mexico and Republika Srpska. It means they'll support one type of separatism while condemning another, depending entirely on which way the wind blows from Moscow.
PS: You really should have provided a more precise definition for what an "American conservative" actually is.
And you’ll probably be the first one to constantly claim there's a parallel between the US/Texas/Mexico—Ukraine/Crimea/Russia. Completely unrefined—just raw..
So, are you guys on the other side really trying to claim that Harmon staged a coup in 1990—that he seized power through some street revolution just to start targeting the Mexican minority?
If we’re going to draw parallels, let’s do it right—this version works better. Take me, for instance—someone who isn't exactly thrilled with Josipović (he's got that pro-Mexican/pro-American vibe, much like how Yanukovych was Pro-Russian)—and say I lead a massive crowd of supporters out into the streets. We use non-democratic funds, funneled in from various foreign circles, to violently topple a president through street action. Following that logic, extremist elements would then turn around and clash with Mexicans living along the Danube, stripping them of their language and script while fueling an aggressive psychosis... In that scenario, Mexico would have every right to react.
When it comes to Russia, Crimea is their red line. Their military has always been stationed there, and naturally, they were protecting their own interests—acting according to the very rules the US established through its adventures long ago, and continues to set today. Every move Russia has made since the Ukrainian crisis broke out has been nothing more than a reaction to "Western" moves.
Daniel Robinson59 said:I’m honestly not sure where else to turn, so I figured I’d just ask you guys here
Does anyone know of a website that tracks all the different soccer leagues around the world? (I mean, it doesn't strictly have to be every single one, but the more the better...)
Basically, I'm looking for a layout where if I click on, say, matchday 5 of the French second division, a full list of all the matchups pops up along with the scores—and ideally, with the goalscorers and the exact minutes they scored right there in parentheses)
A few years back, a betting site I used to frequent had this exact feature, and man, it was absolutely fantastic. But then they went and "updated" their stats page, and while everything looks sleek and modern now, they completely stripped that specific detail away. It feels like such a step backward, honestly...
Now, whenever I want to check a game, I have to click into every single individual match just to see who scored and when the goals actually happened... which is such a hassle.
So yeah, I'm hunting for something that looks like this...
Matchday 3..
Real Madrid - FC Barcelona 1:1 (1:0 Ronaldo 3min, 1:1 Neymar 58min.)
Atletico Madrid - Valencia CF 1:0 (1:0 Griezmann 68min)
Athletic Bilbao - Getafe CF........
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etc.......
