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Participants Richard Murphy6Nancy Thompson3Noah Sanchez7wearyowl29Richard Carter4mistybisonelectricpanther4Nicholas Peterson39steeleagle13slyorca62Sean Martinez4bluemason3ambereagle642Jerry CruzNoah King2Jamie Petersonbluebison70driftingraven122Casey Jackson17Hannah Thompson2Emily RuizPeter Flores67Acopperseal8 …
driftingraven122 driftingraven122 Active Member
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#121 ·
Sophia Parker8 said:The way I interpreted it was this:

God is the one who truly IS.
I am (am) God.
I am God, the God who carries the name I AM.

🤔

Honestly, it’s just some pointless wordplay—or maybe just a clunky translation... I guess Hannah Thompson2 has a point... this guy is clearly just trying to stir the pot.😁

God is simply the essence of what is good... 😬
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#122 ·
steeleagle13 said:I AM God☕

😁

but you aren't divine, right?👍😍
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#123 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:Don't you feel even a little bit of shame typing stuff like that? You clearly know how insulting this is to believers, and yet
you just have to go out of your way to provoke people—it's like you have zero empathy for anyone else.

But believers aren't even real. They're just worms, larvae, or mold in God's backside. 🙂
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#124 ·
Sophia Parker8 said:The way I interpreted it was this:

God is the one who truly IS.
I am (am) God.
I am God, the God who carries the name I AM.

Well, it’s more than that. Beyond everything, the divine essence is just what exists. Maybe the idea of a "god" is just schizophrenia from some sick, external ego. ☕

"I am" has to be equated with "I am not." Two parts that are (not) one. 2=0
Just so an ego of massive proportions doesn't develop...
I guess we could say "I am" is the beginning... but maybe not the end. ☕
Sophia Parker8 Sophia Parker8 Member
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#125 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:Well, it’s more than that. Beyond everything, the divine essence is just what exists. Maybe the idea of a "god" is just schizophrenia from some sick, external ego. ☕

"I am" has to be equated with "I am not." Two parts that are (not) one. 2=0
Just so an ego of massive proportions doesn't develop...
I guess we could say "I am" is the beginning... but maybe not the end. ☕

What exactly defines schizophrenia, and why on earth would that term be used to define God? Does this imply that God is a schizophrenic? I'm completely lost on the whole "I am versus I am not" logic, but honestly, I don't even care.
Hannah Thompson2 Hannah Thompson2 Active Member
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#126 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:But believers aren't even real. They're just worms, larvae, or mold in God's backside. 🙂

The fact that you keep resorting to insults—well, that says quite a bit about you, doesn't it? But honestly, I don't get why you even bother showing up to talk about spirituality when you clearly have zero connection to it in the first place.
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#127 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:The fact that you keep resorting to insults—well, that says quite a bit about you, doesn't it? But honestly, I don't get why you even bother showing up to talk about spirituality when you clearly have zero connection to it in the first place.

Well, it's because I'm not some mindless drone who blindly believes in "God"! That's how I stay spiritual, I guess. 🙂
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#128 ·
Sophia Parker8 said:What exactly defines schizophrenia, and why on earth would that term be used to define God? Does this imply that God is a schizophrenic? I'm completely lost on the whole "I am versus I am not" logic, but honestly, I don't even care.

The divine is a principle. It's just... divine. 😍
"God" is just a noun humans cooked up—something that demands things from us and talks back to us. When people start using pronouns instead of quotes, that’s when you run into schizophrenia.
I mean, any radical Catholic is basically a candidate for that diagnosis. Everyone else is just an (astral) mediocre mess.
It's like how homosexuality and pedophilia play into it too (since God is framed as male, the whole priest-to-God relationship just mirrors this weird "fatherly" dynamic with boys).
That's really where Christianity starts on an external level—with schizophrenia. Someone just misused a pronoun, you know? 👍
hiddencyclist9 hiddencyclist9 Newcomer
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#129 ·
If I’m following you correctly, are you saying that any believer who talks to God is basically schizophrenic? Because if that's the case, then prayer and contemplation would just be a schizophrenic episode.
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#130 ·
hiddencyclist9 said:If I’m following you correctly, are you saying that any believer who talks to God is basically schizophrenic? Because if that's the case, then prayer and contemplation would just be a schizophrenic episode.

Exactly. It's just magic. 👍
"God, please let 1+1 equal something other than two!!" 👍
But apparently, just "contemplating God" is where the schizophrenia kicks in.
It’s like being so sure I’ll win the Powerball that I just sit there in "contemplation" waiting for the check to arrive. I guess being certain about things is great if you're into magic. 😬
It's almost like having some personal demon or entity that shows up whenever I feel like it.
And when it actually does show up, it's a total mess. 👍 😂😂😂
It's like a really low-level, watered-down version of "as above, so below"—something meant for slaves. Just "pray and work." 😍
"..your own..personal..Jesus..someone who actually cares..someone who.." 🙂
Richard Carter4 Richard Carter4 Newcomer
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#131 ·
Richard Murphy6 said:Do you guys actually buy into this?
Is it even worth losing sleep over?
What’s your gut feeling on the whole idea?
Does this show up in other spiritual paths besides Christianity? Like, was Jesus the only one to ever experience resurrection, or is there more to the story?
I used to think the whole "resurrected body" thing was just total nonsense—childish stuff, really—but now I'm just spinning my wheels trying to make sense of the doctrine. Is there any connection to that bacterium discovery by Dr. Radman that everyone was buzzing about in the news and seeing all over the headlines lately?
Why is this stuck in my head like this?
Thanks for jumping in on this! Everyone is welcome to join the conversation!

It’s good that you’re asking these things; they matter because they shape your life, and the Bible provides answers for everything you’re grappling with. Jesus showed us the way to be resurrected, and He is our guarantee for it! Just because He was ascended into heaven doesn't mean we’re all heading there. The Bible indicates that a specific number of people will go to heaven, while a vast multitude will live in paradise right here on Earth. And no, Jesus wasn't the only one to rise—He raised many others during His time on earth—but He did that primarily to demonstrate that the moment is coming when everyone in their graves will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth!
hiddencyclist9 hiddencyclist9 Newcomer
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#132 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:Exactly. It's just magic. 👍
"God, please let 1+1 equal something other than two!!" 👍
But apparently, just "contemplating God" is where the schizophrenia kicks in.
It’s like being so sure I’ll win the Powerball that I just sit there in "contemplation" waiting for the check to arrive. I guess being certain about things is great if you're into magic. 😬
It's almost like having some personal demon or entity that shows up whenever I feel like it.
And when it actually does show up, it's a total mess. 👍 😂😂😂
It's like a really low-level, watered-down version of "as above, so below"—something meant for slaves. Just "pray and work." 😍
"..your own..personal..Jesus..someone who actually cares..someone who.." 🙂


I have to ask—how do you actually define schizophrenia? Because from where I'm sitting, it seems like you view prayer the same way as the voices someone hears during a psychotic break. What if there really are higher beings communicating with us, and it isn't just a figment of the imagination or a symptom of an illness? What are your thoughts on that?
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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#133 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:Don't you feel even a little bit of shame typing stuff like that? You clearly know how insulting this is to believers, and yet
you just have to go out of your way to provoke people—it's like you have zero empathy for anyone else.

You honestly think you're somehow "above" God?🙄

You're dead wrong. 😉
hiddencyclist9 hiddencyclist9 Newcomer
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#134 ·
steeleagle13 said:You honestly think you're somehow "above" God?🙄

You're dead wrong. 😉

Who could possibly be outside of God?
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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#135 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:Don't you feel even a little bit of shame typing stuff like that? You clearly know how insulting this is to believers, and yet
you just have to go out of your way to provoke people—it's like you have zero empathy for anyone else.

Here's the actual deal:

I AM..... "God"

"Saying 'I am God' here isn't me identifying with some made-up fairy tale"

The phrase "I am" stands on its own.

Q

If I say I'm not God, believers will just assume I'm your typical religious person.😁
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#136 ·
Richard Carter4 said:It’s good that you’re asking these things; they matter because they shape your life, and the Bible provides answers for everything you’re grappling with. Jesus showed us the way to be resurrected, and He is our guarantee for it! Just because He was ascended into heaven doesn't mean we’re all heading there. The Bible indicates that a specific number of people will go to heaven, while a vast multitude will live in paradise right here on Earth. And no, Jesus wasn't the only one to rise—He raised many others during His time on earth—but He did that primarily to demonstrate that the moment is coming when everyone in their graves will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth!

Here you go, hiddencyclist9. Is that enough crazy for you? 😍 😂😂😂😂
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#137 ·
hiddencyclist9 said:Who could possibly be outside of God?

I guess anything that isn't "divine" (you know, the higher spiritual stuff) is just "satanic"—meaning the material, everyday, profane world "down here."
BUT! As they say, what happens above is reflected below. So, does that make sense now? 😍

To me, "above" means internal, vertical, and true.
While "below" is just the external, profane, everyday, horizontal, and false side of things—just an elemental surface of existence.
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#138 ·
steeleagle13 said:Here's the actual deal:

I AM..... "God"

"Saying 'I am God' here isn't me identifying with some made-up fairy tale"

The phrase "I am" stands on its own.

Q

If I say I'm not God, believers will just assume I'm your typical religious person.😁

Well, you're divine, steeleagle13, once you realize that.😍 Unlike those people who try to "have" a god—they're honestly pretty low, almost demonic.👍
Because they want to OWN a god rather than actually BE one with the divine.👍
Those folks are just gross. Just typical humans, ugh.😍
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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#139 ·
Richard Carter4 said:It’s good that you’re asking these things; they matter because they shape your life, and the Bible provides answers for everything you’re grappling with. Jesus showed us the way to be resurrected, and He is our guarantee for it! Just because He was ascended into heaven doesn't mean we’re all heading there. The Bible indicates that a specific number of people will go to heaven, while a vast multitude will live in paradise right here on Earth. And no, Jesus wasn't the only one to rise—He raised many others during His time on earth—but He did that primarily to demonstrate that the moment is coming when everyone in their graves will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth!


Does Jesus care about saving money?😁
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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joined Nov 2007
#140 ·
hiddencyclist9 said:Who could possibly be outside of God?

Yeah, who's left once you clear out all the garbage? 😛 🤣 🤣

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