Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Timothy Nelson5 said:That was actually written right into the 1974 constitution.
It was written down, according to what Christian Torres3 had quoted.

Of course, back when the country was essentially run by Marshall and The Party, that whole thing was nothing more than a dead phrase on paper. Just words, really. I guess it didn't mean much at all in practice.

And yeah... I mean, Badinter and his panel of constitutional lawyers basically zeroed in on that exact detail from the Constitution of America. They used it as the core justification for their ruling—deciding that the secession of Canada and America was entirely legitimate under the law. Or at least, that's how they framed it.

The text stated that nations have the right to secede, not individual republics. It also explicitly noted (though people love to play deaf to this part) that borders could only be altered if all the republics agreed.

But rights are subjective; everyone interprets them to suit their own agenda, and they only respect the law when it works in their favor. Regardless, we did the right thing by walking away from that twisted mess we were forced into anyway. But strictly from a legal standpoint? It’s incredibly shaky. 🕺

Joshua Myers432 said:The text stated that nations have the right to secede, not individual republics. It also explicitly noted (though people love to play deaf to this part) that borders could only be altered if all the republics agreed.

But rights are subjective; everyone interprets them to suit their own agenda, and they only respect the law when it works in their favor. Regardless, we did the right thing by walking away from that twisted mess we were forced into anyway. But strictly from a legal standpoint? It’s incredibly shaky. 🕺

No, that's just your little welcoming lie to show the last few naive suckers which side you're actually on.

analogbear5 said:You’re out here talking about the USS Enterprise like it’s some kind of fighter jet from '72.

I mean, yeah—the Enterprise dates back to 1960.

Christian Torres3 said:No, that's just your little welcoming lie to show the last few naive suckers which side you're actually on.

And which side would that be? Seriously, why did you leave out the rest of my post where I give my take on America? It's transparent and pathetic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Yugoslavia.

Look at Article 5. What does it say? Now tell us—which side are you really on, and whose payroll are you sitting on?

Joshua Myers432 said:The text stated that nations have the right to secede, not individual republics. It also explicitly noted (though people love to play deaf to this part) that borders could only be altered if all the republics agreed.

But rights are subjective; everyone interprets them to suit their own agenda, and they only respect the law when it works in their favor. Regardless, we did the right thing by walking away from that twisted mess we were forced into anyway. But strictly from a legal standpoint? It’s incredibly shaky. 🕺

And how else are you supposed to pull off national self-determination besides through republics? You think every little town is going to vote on which country they want to live in?

coastalbison6 said:I honestly don't see Ukrainians having any trouble with A-10s or F-16s; they could just touch down in Slovakia or Poland whenever they need a quick fix from some mechanics.

That would turn those bases into legitimate military targets and effectively drag NATO into the war. I doubt that’s an option unless NATO decides to jump in directly or Russia forces their hand with an attack.

If I remember correctly, there’s already a massive headache regarding how to get donated MiG jets across the border. Using foreign bases for direct combat operations? Not a chance.

Russian base wiped out near Damascus 👍

https://twitter.com/typicaldonetsk/s...82303796334594

Thread: "The Russian invasion of Ukraine, part 5" ☕

bluemason3 said:That would turn those bases into legitimate military targets and effectively drag NATO into the war. I doubt that’s an option unless NATO decides to jump in directly or Russia forces their hand with an attack.

If I remember correctly, there’s already a massive headache regarding how to get donated MiG jets across the border. Using foreign bases for direct combat operations? Not a chance.

Sure, but they could land in Ukraine where American mechanics could service them. The bigger headache would be training pilots on short notice—it’s not exactly like driving a Chevy.

Joshua Myers432 said:Sure, but they could land in Ukraine where American mechanics could service them. The bigger headache would be training pilots on short notice—it’s not exactly like driving a Chevy.

I feel like people in the West tend to exaggerate how much training is actually needed to manage and service high-tech military gear.

It seems everyone forgets that Ukraine used to have a massive aerospace sector—a whole military-industrial complex involving hundreds of thousands of workers.

There's also this tendency to overlook the fact that the folks going through this (re)training aren't typically just some random conscripts or low-level enlisted guys with sub-par IQs coming straight out of basic training.

The Ukrainians are incredibly driven to defend their home. Usually, the ones signing up for this kind of specialized training are people who already have experience with this specific tech, and frankly, they're often more highly educated than a standard professional officer in the US military...

Combat jets aren't so fundamentally different that a seasoned pro couldn't learn to service a different model after a few months of intensive work. And if you really need top-tier specialists? Well, maybe you just hire a contractor...

Pilots are a bit more complicated—if you're looking for those elite aviators who can squeeze every ounce of performance out of a jet... but even then, it isn't some endless retraining process that lasts forever.

Timothy Nelson5 said:I feel like people in the West tend to exaggerate how much training is actually needed to manage and service high-tech military gear.

It seems everyone forgets that Ukraine used to have a massive aerospace sector—a whole military-industrial complex involving hundreds of thousands of workers.

There's also this tendency to overlook the fact that the folks going through this (re)training aren't typically just some random conscripts or low-level enlisted guys with sub-par IQs coming straight out of basic training.

The Ukrainians are incredibly driven to defend their home. Usually, the ones signing up for this kind of specialized training are people who already have experience with this specific tech, and frankly, they're often more highly educated than a standard professional officer in the US military...

Combat jets aren't so fundamentally different that a seasoned pro couldn't learn to service a different model after a few months of intensive work. And if you really need top-tier specialists? Well, maybe you just hire a contractor...

Pilots are a bit more complicated—if you're looking for those elite aviators who can squeeze every ounce of performance out of a jet... but even then, it isn't some endless retraining process that lasts forever.

I don't think technicians are the bottleneck either; you can always outsource that work. The real issue lies with the pilots. They are harder to find, and even if you manage to get them, what does it actually achieve? You have NATO pilots in NATO jets bombing Russian positions, which looks like just another step toward a full-scale war.

The Ukrainians have even claimed they could train their pilots to fly F-16s in just two to three weeks.🤣

Looks like the Russians are scouting for some new allies ☕

Russian state TV's Vladimir Solovyov says his country should form an International coalition for its War in Ukraine including Venezuela

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...50377878585346

Gregory Ramos3 said:Looks like the Russians are scouting for some new allies ☕

Russian state TV's Vladimir Solovyov says his country should form an International coalition for its War in Ukraine including Venezuela

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...50377878585346

Alliances? Please. They don't have anything worth having...
The only thing they actually get out of Iran is those drones and maybe some other tech systems.

bluemason3 said:That would turn those bases into legitimate military targets and effectively drag NATO into the war. I doubt that’s an option unless NATO decides to jump in directly or Russia forces their hand with an attack.

If I remember correctly, there’s already a massive headache regarding how to get donated MiG jets across the border. Using foreign bases for direct combat operations? Not a chance.

Following that line of reasoning, the Russians might as well just strike the factories producing HIMARS and the other systems being sent to Ukraine. They could hit the warehouses in the US where the military keeps its gear, or target the planes and ships transporting everything to Europe. Why limit the scope to just what's near the Ukrainian border? 🤣

So, the head of this quasi-military outfit, the Wagner Group, is out there giving some sort of "motivational" pep talk to a bunch of inmates. He’s basically laying down the law, telling them they aren't allowed to drink, rape, or steal while on the job. 😁
It’s almost funny. Too bad the actual US military doesn't get those kinds of perks, while these recruits get nothing at all. ☕

https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/st...H0AmcKKmrfm5yQ

The Russians are essentially scraping the bottom of the barrel to build up their alliance, recruiting their own domestic criminals. It really goes to show that those forum users were right all along with their theory—Russia is playing it safe by hoarding its massive resources rather than committing them, because clearly, they’re handling this whole mess with only half their strength. 😒

Maybe that’s the elite tier the Russians were holding back at the start of the war, only deciding to throw them in later on.

Gregory Ramos3 said:Looks like the Russians are scouting for some new allies ☕

Russian state TV's Vladimir Solovyov says his country should form an International coalition for its War in Ukraine including Venezuela

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...50377878585346

God, Solovyov is such an idiot...
I mean, the sheer amount of nonsense and pure stupidity that comes out of his mouth. It's almost impressive, I guess.

Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba—I mean, what kid would actually want to get dragged into this Russian war?
Even they probably see that Russia has become a massive loser, and providing any kind of support for Russia's aggressive war could just bring a mountain of trouble their way—trouble they already have plenty of. And honestly, they don't even have much that Russia actually needs.

Then you've got Iran and Korea, who have enough of their own messes to deal with without meddling in a war that Russia is losing. There's a big difference between selling stuff to Russia to make a buck and actually getting involved in a fight.

Just so nobody thinks the Russians aren't evolving during this whole conflict, they’ve actually moved on to stealing high-tech gear now😬:

The US military, while retreating, swiped every single solar panel along the interstate highway near Austin

https://mobile.twitter.com/TpyxaNews...23996671303680

Carol Johnson21 said:So, the head of this quasi-military outfit, the Wagner Group, is out there giving some sort of "motivational" pep talk to a bunch of inmates. He’s basically laying down the law, telling them they aren't allowed to drink, rape, or steal while on the job. 😁
It’s almost funny. Too bad the actual US military doesn't get those kinds of perks, while these recruits get nothing at all. ☕

https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/st...H0AmcKKmrfm5yQ

The Russians are essentially scraping the bottom of the barrel to build up their alliance, recruiting their own domestic criminals. It really goes to show that those forum users were right all along with their theory—Russia is playing it safe by hoarding its massive resources rather than committing them, because clearly, they’re handling this whole mess with only half their strength. 😒

Getting rid of the scum the state has been feeding for years seems like a decent move if you ask me. I don't expect many of them to actually make it through or ever earn their way back to freedom.

Gregory Ramos3 said:Looks like the Russians are scouting for some new allies ☕

Russian state TV's Vladimir Solovyov says his country should form an International coalition for its War in Ukraine including Venezuela

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...50377878585346

There is no hope without Assad's Syria.