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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7521 ·
gentlerider7 said:I mean, let's get our facts straight—a real nuclear winter only happens if the entire American and Russian arsenals are dumped on major cities in one massive, terrifying burst.

The guy said one bomb wouldn't even matter for the world. We're getting closer to understanding why Putin will pull the nuclear trigger. ☕
Add Zaharov's claim that "people have to realize Russia cannot lose this" and you've got all the variables and the solution to the equation.
When will it happen? Where in Ukraine? Hard to say. But my guess? It’ll be a few days after the Americans announce something like, "Putin is dropping a nuke on this specific date." ☕

Personally, I find it fascinating how most people on these forums think America and NATO are going to retaliate in kind and risk the total annihilation of Northern Hemisphere civilization. Give me one good reason why. Just one.☕
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7522 ·
fadedjackal8 said:Wait, are you actually seriously considering executing prisoners as an option?

The Ukrainians have shown time and again since this war started that that's just not how they roll—so maybe leave them out of your theories.

There are videos out there from both sides showing war crimes—executions and the killing of prisoners. Where exactly are you getting this idea that Ukraine has "proven" themselves more than anyone else? On the flip side, the Russians have their own footage showing how they treat Ukrainian prisoners and whether they actually follow the Geneva Convention.
It’s all the same. The rules say you can't use POWs for propaganda, but let's be real—both sides have been doing it constantly.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to handle the ballast by using hull SS methods. Why not?

Nobody actually knows what’s happening on the ground. Real facts? Nonexistent. Instead, we just get served whatever narrative the politicians want us to swallow to shape our opinions. That's it. ☕
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
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#7523 ·
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rowdyraven112 says:
The guy said one weapon wouldn't matter much to the world. We're getting closer to understanding why Putin will eventually pull the nuclear trigger. ☕
Add Zaharov’s claim that "people have to realize Russia cannot afford to lose this" and you've got all the variables needed to solve the equation.
When it happens or where in Ukraine it lands is hard to say, but my guess is a few days after the US media starts reporting something like "Putin is dropping a nuke on this specific date." ☕

Personally, I find it fascinating how most people on this forum think the USA and NATO will retaliate in kind, risking the total collapse of Northern Hemisphere civilization. Give me one good reason to be that relaxed. ☕
Nah. It makes much more sense that they won't do anything at all once a madman actually uses a nuclear weapon. 👍
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7524 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:Quote:>
rowdyraven112 says:
The guy said one weapon wouldn't matter much to the world. We're getting closer to understanding why Putin will eventually pull the nuclear trigger. ☕
Add Zaharov’s claim that "people have to realize Russia cannot afford to lose this" and you've got all the variables needed to solve the equation.
When it happens or where in Ukraine it lands is hard to say, but my guess is a few days after the US media starts reporting something like "Putin is dropping a nuke on this specific date." ☕

Personally, I find it fascinating how most people on this forum think the USA and NATO will retaliate in kind, risking the total collapse of Northern Hemisphere civilization. Give me one good reason to be that relaxed. ☕
Nah. It makes much more sense that they won't do anything at all once a madman actually uses a nuclear weapon. 👍

So according to you, we should all just pack our bags and move to Africa? Please. You think after a massive volley of 1,000 nukes hits Russia, they’re just going to sit there quietly sipping vodka? ☕

Why didn't we think of that back in February? ☕
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#7525 ·
rowdyraven112 said:So according to you, we should all just pack our bags and move to Africa? Please. You think after a massive volley of 1,000 nukes hits Russia, they’re just going to sit there quietly sipping vodka? ☕

Why didn't we think of that back in February? ☕

Look, they aren't gonna launch a thousand nukes, but they sure as hell aren't just going to sit around twiddling their thumbs and doing absolutely nothing either.
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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#7526 ·
rowdyraven112 said:The guy said one bomb wouldn't even matter for the world. We're getting closer to understanding why Putin will pull the nuclear trigger. ☕
Add Zaharov's claim that "people have to realize Russia cannot lose this" and you've got all the variables and the solution to the equation.
When will it happen? Where in Ukraine? Hard to say. But my guess? It’ll be a few days after the Americans announce something like, "Putin is dropping a nuke on this specific date." ☕

Personally, I find it fascinating how most people on these forums think America and NATO are going to retaliate in kind and risk the total annihilation of Northern Hemisphere civilization. Give me one good reason why. Just one.☕

If Putin uses a nuke, he’s tossing all the written and unwritten rules of modern warfare right out the window. If that happens, the USA might just respond by throwing out all the rules of engagement entirely.

That doesn't necessarily have to mean a full-blown nuclear war, either. It could be anything—a bomb under a toilet seat, a perfectly placed sniper shot, poisoning families, or even Novichok in someone's tea. I guess those who handle this stuff have plenty of creative ways to take out whoever needs taking out.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#7527 ·
On, regarding this whole mobilization mess:

"So, get this: in St. Louis, there’s this 51-year-old guy who has absolutely zero military experience, is deaf in one ear, and can't see a thing without his glasses, but somehow he just got slapped with a court summons as part of this partial mobilization. That's what's being reported over on this Telegram channel.

And wait, it gets even more ridiculous—according to the channel, the guy is also dealing with multiple herniated discs.

He got the notice on the evening of September 22nd, and by the next morning, he was already at the local recruitment office in St. Louis trying to explain his medical issues and showing off his MRI results. He told them he shouldn't pass the physical, but the clerk there basically brushed him off, saying stuff like, 'Well, those conditions aren't exactly fatal, you can still go study.'

On top of all that, the guy says the office didn't give a single damn about the fact that he has no combat experience whatsoever. He's never served a day in his life; he just did the standard drill instructor stuff back in the day. Plus, according to the Department of Defense, they were supposed to be calling up lower-ranking officers up to age 50, yet here he is at 51... how does that even work?..."

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp
Carol Johnson21 Carol Johnson21 Active Member
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#7528 ·
https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/...rBPT0eGVkb1JtA

The local residents in this Latvian city actually went ahead and painted the town in the colors of the Russian flag. Honestly, why would any Latvian want to issue visas to Russians under those circumstances? It’s almost predictable.

Now Finland has also stepped up, announcing they're tightening the screws with much stricter visa restrictions for Russian citizens.

It is quite fascinating to watch how the neighboring Western nations are slamming the door shut on Russians, while places like the Netherlands and Denmark remain practically wide open.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#7529 ·
knedlaugrlu said:God knows what that actually looks like on the ground, honestly.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cont...errence-fails/

... the best move the USA can make if deterrence falls flat could be... ramping up everything we're already doing to fight Russian aggression in Ukraine and maybe even hitting Russian forces or bases that triggered a nuclear strike with limited conventional attacks.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#7530 ·
gentlerider7 said:On, regarding this whole mobilization mess:

"So, get this: in St. Louis, there’s this 51-year-old guy who has absolutely zero military experience, is deaf in one ear, and can't see a thing without his glasses, but somehow he just got slapped with a court summons as part of this partial mobilization. That's what's being reported over on this Telegram channel.

And wait, it gets even more ridiculous—according to the channel, the guy is also dealing with multiple herniated discs.

He got the notice on the evening of September 22nd, and by the next morning, he was already at the local recruitment office in St. Louis trying to explain his medical issues and showing off his MRI results. He told them he shouldn't pass the physical, but the clerk there basically brushed him off, saying stuff like, 'Well, those conditions aren't exactly fatal, you can still go study.'

On top of all that, the guy says the office didn't give a single damn about the fact that he has no combat experience whatsoever. He's never served a day in his life; he just did the standard drill instructor stuff back in the day. Plus, according to the Department of Defense, they were supposed to be calling up lower-ranking officers up to age 50, yet here he is at 51... how does that even work?..."

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp


Department of Defense?? 🤔
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#7531 ·
Google's translator is out here turning "Department of Defense" into some weird acronym for the Department of Defense.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#7532 ·
They’re mobilizing guys up to sixty.
Mix that in with the actual young crowd—you know, starting from 18 and up—and you basically don't have an army at all.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#7533 ·
analogbear5 said:Google's translator is out here turning "Department of Defense" into some weird acronym for the Department of Defense.

🤣 🤣

Honestly, I’m just sitting here watching which idiots are trying to meddle in things they clearly don't understand 🙏 🙏
Bradley White73 Bradley White73 Active Member
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#7534 ·
rowdyraven112 said:The guy said one bomb wouldn't even matter for the world. We're getting closer to understanding why Putin will pull the nuclear trigger. ☕
Add Zaharov's claim that "people have to realize Russia cannot lose this" and you've got all the variables and the solution to the equation.
When will it happen? Where in Ukraine? Hard to say. But my guess? It’ll be a few days after the Americans announce something like, "Putin is dropping a nuke on this specific date." ☕

Personally, I find it fascinating how most people on these forums think America and NATO are going to retaliate in kind and risk the total annihilation of Northern Hemisphere civilization. Give me one good reason why. Just one.☕



In Russian, just so the whole world understands. 🙂 And I honestly doubt she's bluffing; at least the Russians seem to believe her. Those Kodak enthusiasts jumped straight to talking about the Sarmat and radioactive fallout. It’s almost funny, really.

Anyway, I think it might be a good idea to cool off regarding this topic. You guys are being a bit much, like a swarm of locusts.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#7535 ·
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/cont...errence-fails/

"It would also break a nearly eight-decade taboo on nuclear use. It may make future nuclear use more likely if states (e.g., China) perceive that nuclear weapons can help them achieve their goals without resulting in serious military retaliation from the United States and its allies. Further, it could cause nuclear proliferation if states fear that nuclear weapons might be used against them or if US allies believe that Washington will not respond to a nuclear attack."

Basically, it would shatter the near eighty-year taboo surrounding nuclear weapons. If countries—like China, for example—start thinking they can pull off their objectives using nukes without facing any real military pushback from the United States and its allies, then we're looking at a much higher risk of nuclear use down the road. Plus, it could trigger a massive wave of nuclear proliferation if nations start fearing they're targets, or if our allies start doubting whether Washington actually has their back during a nuclear strike.


Aside from the fact that anyone who breaks this taboo is basically digging their own grave and turning themselves into a terrorist state just like Russia, this really clarifies why the US and NATO simply cannot afford to sit idly by if something like this happens. If there’s no response, it creates this dangerous perception of weakness—the idea that you can just drop something like that and Washington won't even blink.

Besides, there were recent reports that the US has been sending messages to Moscow through backdoor channels, essentially telling them, "Don't even think about it, you'll seriously regret it."
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#7536 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:🤣 🤣

Honestly, I’m just sitting here watching which idiots are trying to meddle in things they clearly don't understand 🙏 🙏

Did you seriously not know that the Russians actually ask the Department of Defense for advice when they're confused about something? 😁

Just Google Translate doing its thing...
Bradley White73 Bradley White73 Active Member
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#7537 ·
knedlaugrlu said:...
I suppose you might be living under a bit of an illusion if you think Putin won't eventually use a limited nuclear strike. It honestly feels like everything is heading in that direction.

I guess this kind of status quo will probably hang on for a while, and I don't really feel comfortable trying to predict anything beyond that.

And honestly, you shouldn't even be making those kinds of claims because this topic is strictly off-limits and I'll be reporting every single one of your future posts like this.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#7538 ·
gentlerider7 said:Did you seriously not know that the Russians actually ask the Department of Defense for advice when they're confused about something? 😁

Just Google Translate doing its thing...

Honestly, looking at the absolute mess of moves they've been making lately, it might actually be a pretty smart move for them to start asking for a little guidance every now and then. ☕

😬
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
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#7539 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Honestly, looking at the absolute mess of moves they've been making lately, it might actually be a pretty smart move for them to start asking for a little guidance every now and then. ☕

😬

It really is a shame we aren't making better use of our current Secretary's intellectual talents 😬
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#7540 ·
gentlestag15 said:The mobilization is moving along exactly as expected, just like everything else the Russian army touches.
View on twitter

Look at that enthusiasm—it’s like they can’t wait to get to the front lines.

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