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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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#7901 ·
James Chavez91 said:I don't know... I actually dig the suggestion someone made. If the whole deal for Ukrainian Independence was supposed to involve denuclearization, but now these bastards are just trampling over those borders and acting like they get a say in it anyway
Then maybe it’s only fair to hit the reset button and let the Ukrainians have some of that arsenal back—just to level the playing field, I guess.

And yeah. People who are terrified of nukes? I get it. Honestly, we’re all a little scared deep down. Especially if you're a parent—that fear hits differently.
But you just can't give in to an aggressor simply because they have the upper hand. That logic doesn't hold up. By that reasoning, anyone could just decide to take over Switzerland, Austria, Ibiza, or Canada... just because they feel like it.
We don't justify a physically stronger partner hitting a woman just because they're able to do it. No. In a civilized society, we call out that kind of behavior and we punish it.

To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not even remotely afraid of that scenario where we all just vanish at once.
Aaron Long56 Aaron Long56 Newcomer
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#7902 ·
Terry Green3 said:Maybe they'll finally figure out where all those UFOs near Norfolk come from every month.

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Aaron Long56 Aaron Long56 Newcomer
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#7903 ·
hiddeneagle98 said:To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not even remotely afraid of that scenario where we all just vanish at once.

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James Chavez91 James Chavez91 Active Member
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#7904 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Look, I'm a parent myself, so I just don't see it. Why on earth would I want my kid growing up in a world where bullies just get away with whatever they want?

I mean, I agree—it was more about the idea that every parent wants their child to grow old and live a healthy, happy life. So, naturally, you'd be worried about any kind of catastrophe. It's just human nature, I guess.
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
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#7905 ·
James Chavez91 said:I mean, I agree—it was more about the idea that every parent wants their child to grow old and live a healthy, happy life. So, naturally, you'd be worried about any kind of catastrophe. It's just human nature, I guess.

Thanks for finally getting it... I was really hoping someone here would see things my way. I was reacting to all the talk about whether anyone could even survive if a nuclear war actually kicked off, and let's face it—there's zero guarantee we dodge Armageddon if they start dropping "tactical" nukes.
It's got nothing to do with being soft on bullies, which is something I totally stand by.
Let's not turn serious shit into some kind of joke.
Ronald Collins33 Ronald Collins33 Newcomer
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#7906 ·
The USSR had nukes back when they were fighting in Afghanistan, and they didn't drop them then.
Putin won't do it now either.
It would be an absolute catastrophe right out of the gate.
Launching a nuke isn't just about pressing a button, you know.
electricsurfer47 electricsurfer47 Active Member
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#7907 ·
Ronald Collins33 said:The USSR had nukes back when they were fighting in Afghanistan, and they didn't drop them then.
Putin won't do it now either.
It would be an absolute catastrophe right out of the gate.
Launching a nuke isn't just about pressing a button, you know.

You're comparing apples to oranges here.

Putin doesn't look at the war in Ukraine as just some foreign country... he sees it as something deeply personal that he has to own. He's gotten so stuck in this mindset that he's willing to send tons of Russ soldiers to die over there.
Another thing—he needs this win to solidify his power. He refuses to admit defeat and he won't recognize it, so he's ready to go all the way. Now, maybe he’s still a long way off from thinking about bombs, but if he's becoming hysterical and obsessed, he might stop caring about the Russians or even Ukrainians and just pull the trigger on a bomb.

It also really depends on how much leash the people surrounding him are willing to give him.
Does anyone in his inner circle actually have the guts to step in and stop him?
James Chavez91 James Chavez91 Active Member
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#7908 ·
electricsurfer47 said:You're comparing apples to oranges here.

Putin doesn't look at the war in Ukraine as just some foreign country... he sees it as something deeply personal that he has to own. He's gotten so stuck in this mindset that he's willing to send tons of Russ soldiers to die over there.
Another thing—he needs this win to solidify his power. He refuses to admit defeat and he won't recognize it, so he's ready to go all the way. Now, maybe he’s still a long way off from thinking about bombs, but if he's becoming hysterical and obsessed, he might stop caring about the Russians or even Ukrainians and just pull the trigger on a bomb.

It also really depends on how much leash the people surrounding him are willing to give him.
Does anyone in his inner circle actually have the guts to step in and stop him?

What kind of "shoring up a position" are we talking about for a 70-year-old guy? Honestly, he should probably just put his teeth in a glass, hang out with the grandkids, maybe watch Spraic on TV in the evening, and—who knows—accidentally let one rip now and then...

I feel like anyone who can't even handle a little action without help should be banned from politics or any kind of public service.
The world would probably be a much better place if we just moved on from these ancient relics.
Carol Johnson21 Carol Johnson21 Active Member
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#7909 ·
The real issue here is that he can't just lean on his nuclear arsenal to secure his position. If he pulls the trigger on that first strike, his own people will likely stage a coup.
Besides, the second one isn't going to be Russian anyway.

They’re talking about shutting down the borders to Russia—if you fled, you fled. Meanwhile, over in Germany, they’re still holding rallies to show support for Mother Russia. Maybe it's time we look into mobilizing them instead.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#7910 ·
Carol Johnson21 said:The real issue here is that he can't just lean on his nuclear arsenal to secure his position. If he pulls the trigger on that first strike, his own people will likely stage a coup.
Besides, the second one isn't going to be Russian anyway.

They’re talking about shutting down the borders to Russia—if you fled, you fled. Meanwhile, over in Germany, they’re still holding rallies to show support for Mother Russia. Maybe it's time we look into mobilizing them instead.

Perhaps they could be interned as enemy aliens and deported from the country?
placidtiger142 placidtiger142 Member
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#7911 ·
Back when everyone was talking about the West slamming the doors shut on Russians, people were losing their minds. Now? They’re basically gonna lock themselves in.

By the time they actually pull the trigger on that, we’re looking at millions of people already having cleared out.

At the end of this whole mess, it’ll probably turn out that more Russians fled their own country than Ukrainians ever did from theirs.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#7912 ·
The head of a regional recruitment office was shot inside a military registration and enlistment center in the Irkutsk Oblast

A man opened fire on a military enlistment office located within the Irkutsk Oblast. Preliminary reports indicate that the head of the recruitment commission is among those wounded.
The shooting took place at the enlistment office in Ust-Ilimsk, Irkutsk Oblast. Eyewitnesses provided accounts to Taiga.info, and Babr_mash is also reporting on the situation. Video footage of the incident has been made available to editors.

We have details regarding the casualties. The head of the recruitment commission is one of the injured; while initial reports suggested he had been killed, the latest information indicates he survived.

The police press service for the Irkutsk Oblast told Taiga.info that they haven't issued an official comment yet, stating simply, "We are gathering information."

The shooter has been taken into custody. According to some reports, the suspect may be a man named Ruslan Zinin, born in 1997, who is currently unemployed.

https://tayga.info/179264
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#7913 ·
Carol Johnson21 said:The real issue here is that he can't just lean on his nuclear arsenal to secure his position. If he pulls the trigger on that first strike, his own people will likely stage a coup.
Besides, the second one isn't going to be Russian anyway.

They’re talking about shutting down the borders to Russia—if you fled, you fled. Meanwhile, over in Germany, they’re still holding rallies to show support for Mother Russia. Maybe it's time we look into mobilizing them instead.

You really think Germany is going to mobilize? 😁
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#7914 ·
During the first six months of the full-scale Russian invasion, at least 20 military recruitment centers have been targeted by arson

The frequency of these incidents has increased quite dramatically. We have attempted to compile all known recent cases into a single list, which will likely be updated as more information surfaces.

Military Recruitment Centers
St. Petersburg. On the evening of September 21, in the town of Lomonosov, part of the St. Petersburg area, a military office for the Lomonosovsky District of the Lomonosovsky District of the Lomonosovsky District was set on fire. The blaze broke out in a first-floor office belonging to the church. The fire covered about six square meters. No damage beyond that.

Nizhny Novgorod. On the evening of September 21, a fire broke out in the building of the Kanavinsky District military recruitment and registration office. A Molotov cocktail was reportedly thrown through one of the first-floor windows. The fire covered one square meter, damaging the door and part of the floor in the recruitment center's dental clinic. There are no reports of casualties.

Orenburg Region. During the night of September 22, the entrance to the military registration and enlistment office in the city of Guy was doused with flammable liquid and ignited. The fire was quickly extinguished, though one wall was damaged.

Transbaikal Territory. On the night of September 22, in the village of Kyra, a Molotov cocktail was thrown at the military commissariat building. According to media reports, no actual fire broke out.

Amur Region. In the city of Svobodan, during the night of September 23, a Molotov cocktail was thrown at the Commissariat building; the bottle hit the asphalt and ignited, damaging the building's facade. No significant damage.

Khabarovsk Territory. On the night of September 23, in Khabarovsk, attempts were made to set fire to the Industrial District military office using Molotov cocktails; two offices caught fire, but no one was injured.

Krasnoyarsk Region. On the night of September 24, in Kansk, an attempt was made to burn down the municipal military office. An elderly man is suspected of being the arsonist.

Kaliningrad Oblast. On the night of September 25, in the city of Chernyakhovskaya, a Molotov cocktail was thrown at the military registration and enlistment office. The cocktail ignited, and the fire was put out. Regional authorities stated that criminals "set fire to an informational sign on the doors of the military registration and enlistment office." By the time police arrived, the arsonists had fled.

Republic of Mordovia. On the morning of September 25, two Molotov cocktails were thrown through the window of the military registration and enlistment office in the town of Ruzayevka. One of the offices caught fire, covering about one square meter. The flames were extinguished before firefighters arrived, and there were no injuries.

Leningrad Oblast. On the morning of September 25, the Kirovsky District military enlistment and registration office in Kirovsk was set on fire. A canister was hung from the window grate, and its hose was fed through a hole in the glass into the building. The fire consumed one ground-floor office, covering roughly 10 square meters. The fire was extinguished by the military office guard.

Administrative Offices (including one branch of United Russia)
Samara Oblast. On the night of September 22, in Togliatti, the doors and entryway of a municipal administration building were set ablaze. A Molotov cocktail was allegedly thrown into the building. The fire covered 10 square meters and was quickly contained.

Volgograd Oblast. On the night of September 23, in Kamyshina, an "incendiary object" was thrown at the municipal administration building. Local officials described the damage as minor. The suspect in the arson has been arrested.

On the morning of September 25, in the village of Bereslavka near Volgograd, the Bereslavsky rural settlement building, which also housed an art school, was set on fire. The building was completely destroyed by the blaze.

Altai Territory. On the night of September 23, a fire broke out in a community center in the village of Tselinnoye, where the local council administration is located. As a result of the incident, the local post office located in the same building was completely destroyed, and the ceiling of the administration office collapsed. There were no victims.

St. Petersburg outskirts. On the night of September 25, a fire broke out at the administrative building for the Syaskelevsky rural district within the Gatchina area. Someone tossed two bottles filled with an incendiary mixture right through the window of the local social services office. Depending on which report you listen to, the blaze covered anywhere from 12 to 50 square meters. Thankfully, there were no casualties. Local authorities have opened a criminal investigation into arson.

Republic of Bashkortostan. In the city of Salavat, some car tires were set ablaze near the United Russia party headquarters on the morning of September 24. Five people ended up evacuating the building on their own. According to the Department of Emergency Management, the incident resulted in damage to the plastic entrance doors, though fortunately, no one was injured.

https://meduza.io/feature/2022/09/25...t-popolnyatsya
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#7915 ·
James Chavez91 said:What kind of "shoring up a position" are we talking about for a 70-year-old guy? Honestly, he should probably just put his teeth in a glass, hang out with the grandkids, maybe watch Spraic on TV in the evening, and—who knows—accidentally let one rip now and then...

I feel like anyone who can't even handle a little action without help should be banned from politics or any kind of public service.
The world would probably be a much better place if we just moved on from these ancient relics.

Once you hit that age, your perspective changes...
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
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#7916 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:You really think Germany is going to mobilize? 😁

No, I guess not. Not until they just deport them all to Russia, and then let Russia handle the mobilization there.

Once those first hundred people get deported, I suspect those Russian protests over in the European Union will finally die down.

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electricsurfer47 electricsurfer47 Active Member
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#7917 ·
Carol Johnson21 said:The real issue here is that he can't just lean on his nuclear arsenal to secure his position. If he pulls the trigger on that first strike, his own people will likely stage a coup.
Besides, the second one isn't going to be Russian anyway.

They’re talking about shutting down the borders to Russia—if you fled, you fled. Meanwhile, over in Germany, they’re still holding rallies to show support for Mother Russia. Maybe it's time we look into mobilizing them instead.

Even if illegal crossings stay an option, they honestly don't have enough troops to actually watch the borders effectively.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
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#7918 ·
James Chavez91 said:What kind of "shoring up a position" are we talking about for a 70-year-old guy? Honestly, he should probably just put his teeth in a glass, hang out with the grandkids, maybe watch Spraic on TV in the evening, and—who knows—accidentally let one rip now and then...

I feel like anyone who can't even handle a little action without help should be banned from politics or any kind of public service.
The world would probably be a much better place if we just moved on from these ancient relics.

Nah.

It’s more like we should ban those old guys from holding office— but only if they don't have kids or grandkids to leave it all to!
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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#7919 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:Nah.

It’s more like we should ban those old guys from holding office— but only if they don't have kids or grandkids to leave it all to!

Vladimir Putin has them.
We really ought to bar psychopaths from holding office, but let's be real, that’s an impossible mission.

Edit: Dejo is out here with his bronchitis "subtly" nudging Mexicans to go join the Russian army by dropping all the intel on how to do it. Honestly, first smart move he's made.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#7920 ·
Footage shows a Russian individual opening fire and killing a military commander at a command center in Ust-Ilimsk, located within the Irkutsk Oblast. The officer targeted was reportedly leading the local bankruptcy committee.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1...W9Hyain0UmhaZw

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