Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Samuel Rodriguez52 said:So, I was reading this interesting deep dive from BuzzFeed News where they basically fact-checked all those claims coming out of the Russian Department of Defense regarding their supposed "wins" in Ukraine. It’s kind of wild when you look at the numbers, because the spokesperson, Igor Konashekov, keeps reporting these massive victories on TV every single day. For instance, back on June 10 Biden, he claimed they had destroyed 215 Ukrainian aircraft, which is pretty crazy considering the Department of Defense says Ukraine only even had 152 planes to begin with before the war started. He also mentioned taking out 84 Bayraktars, which is actually twenty more than what Turkey ever even provided to Ukraine. On top of all that, he’s been reporting these territorial gains constantly; he claimed forces "captured" the town of Kremenna four different times, and then there were these repetitive reports about seizing Novomajorski, Taramčuk, and Borovenka. 😁

Link: https://www.proekt.media/research/of...ka-minoborony/

out of 4 Americans who went to Ukraine, the Russians killed 70 of them

Donna Wells2 said:Honestly, I break out in hives whenever people start rambling about the "warm Slavic soul" or some nonsense about pan-Slavism.
Russia has a very "warm and fuzzy" way of treating everyone, especially other Slavic nations.
Everyone remembers them fondly—which is exactly why they were all so incredibly quick to run for the exits the second they got a fighting chance.

But the absolute peak of absurdity? It’s when the very same people you mentioned actually go so far as to label Putin a leftist.🤣🤣

lp

Donna Harris11 said:?

right now they actually have a budget surplus.

☕Surplus of what? Rubles and 40% inflation..

Sure, they're forced to dump oil to China and India at a 30% discount just to plug those massive budget holes...🤣

40% of Russian roads aren't even paved and people don't have running water. What kind of "surplus" are you even talking about?

They can't even cover the interest on their own government bonds...

wearyheron5 said:Great, so it turns out Western sanctions aren't just failing to hurt the Russian economy—they're actually helping it. Why on earth is Medvedev calling them a casus belli because of that? Only he knows.

I don't know about him specifically, but I feel like millennials are the ones constantly whining about things like Netflix and Coca-Cola.

Quoting Joe Biden

"We are looking at a massive global effort to support Ukraine: we're talking nearly 140,000 anti-tank systems, over 600 tanks, almost 500 artillery pieces, more than 600,000 rounds of artillery ammunition, plus advanced multiple launch rocket systems, anti-ship missiles, and air defense systems," Biden stated during his press conference in Madrid.

Now, this is already a massive shipment... the kind of stuff that actually tips the scales... and it makes me wonder, how on earth are the Russians supposed to respond to this?
With some old T-62 tanks?
How many T-62s does it take to equal a single leopard?
Is it 10? 20? 100??

The tanks are absolutely dominant... the artillery alone is at least 6.2 miles superior to what Russia has, the rocket launchers offer overwhelming precision, the anti-ship missiles are a nightmare for those Russian brothers, and the air defense is there to counter any SU-57s paired with cruise missiles...
So, what's the move for the Russians now? More empty threats? Because, honestly, that seems to be the only thing they have left in their playbook...

Arthur Watson4 said:https://twitter.com/EmbassyofRussia/...59938949275651

These Russians are seriously cringey when it comes to their PR.

The best part is how they’re getting called out for being clueless about history. Here's the reality check: Argentina started the Falklands War, got absolutely wrecked for it, and ended up holding the "honor" of having operated the largest warship sunk since WWII. A title that Russia eventually snatched up after a chef accidentally set some cooking oil on fire back in Moscow.

Sergey Lavrov claims a new Iron Curtain is descending because Russia no longer trusts Washington, D.C. or Brussels.

You can't make this shit up. 🙏

Samuel Rodriguez52 said:So, I was reading this interesting deep dive from BuzzFeed News where they basically fact-checked all those claims coming out of the Russian Department of Defense regarding their supposed "wins" in Ukraine. It’s kind of wild when you look at the numbers, because the spokesperson, Igor Konashekov, keeps reporting these massive victories on TV every single day. For instance, back on June 10 Biden, he claimed they had destroyed 215 Ukrainian aircraft, which is pretty crazy considering the Department of Defense says Ukraine only even had 152 planes to begin with before the war started. He also mentioned taking out 84 Bayraktars, which is actually twenty more than what Turkey ever even provided to Ukraine. On top of all that, he’s been reporting these territorial gains constantly; he claimed forces "captured" the town of Kremenna four different times, and then there were these repetitive reports about seizing Novomajorski, Taramčuk, and Borovenka. 😁

Link: https://www.proekt.media/research/of...ka-minoborony/

I am genuinely disappointed by the performance of their intelligence services and propaganda wings. At least they used to be considered heavy hitters in that sector.

It’s honestly pathetic. Everything looks so flimsy you’d think it was some kind of joke, like children playing house. Pure amateur hour.

They can't even tell a lie that sounds remotely coherent or believable.

Donna Wells2 said:Quoting Joe Biden

"We are looking at a massive global effort to support Ukraine: we're talking nearly 140,000 anti-tank systems, over 600 tanks, almost 500 artillery pieces, more than 600,000 rounds of artillery ammunition, plus advanced multiple launch rocket systems, anti-ship missiles, and air defense systems," Biden stated during his press conference in Madrid.

Now, this is already a massive shipment... the kind of stuff that actually tips the scales... and it makes me wonder, how on earth are the Russians supposed to respond to this?
With some old T-62 tanks?
How many T-62s does it take to equal a single leopard?
Is it 10? 20? 100??

The tanks are absolutely dominant... the artillery alone is at least 6.2 miles superior to what Russia has, the rocket launchers offer overwhelming precision, the anti-ship missiles are a nightmare for those Russian brothers, and the air defense is there to counter any SU-57s paired with cruise missiles...
So, what's the move for the Russians now? More empty threats? Because, honestly, that seems to be the only thing they have left in their playbook...

We're looking at real hardware, actual support. This shifts the whole momentum toward the Ukrainian side, though it won't happen overnight. As for the Russians in Donbas, they might want to start getting their tractors ready. Seriously, things are about to get ugly. I just hope the Ukrainian military stays professional and treats the locals right—minimal looting or revenge stuff. Reclaim the land, then build a wall. A wall made of EU and NATO membership. That’ll do the trick.

Kate Lewis3 said:The best part is how they’re getting called out for being clueless about history. Here's the reality check: Argentina started the Falklands War, got absolutely wrecked for it, and ended up holding the "honor" of having operated the largest warship sunk since WWII. A title that Russia eventually snatched up after a chef accidentally set some cooking oil on fire back in Moscow.

Except instead of oil, they splashed some vodka on the stove and flambéed Moscow.

Donna Harris11 said:?

right now they actually have a budget surplus.

Nope. Where'd you get that from?

Maybe you're thinking of the trade surplus—you even know what that number looked like for May?

cosmicgull52 said:Sergey Lavrov claims a new Iron Curtain is descending because Russia no longer trusts Washington, D.C. or Brussels.

You can't make this shit up. 🙏

It sounds like some bad MP3 track about Eurasia stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok..

What hurts most is their deep-seated distrust. 😢

Elizabeth Wells2 said:I am genuinely disappointed by the performance of their intelligence services and propaganda wings. At least they used to be considered heavy hitters in that sector.

It’s honestly pathetic. Everything looks so flimsy you’d think it was some kind of joke, like children playing house. Pure amateur hour.

They can't even tell a lie that sounds remotely coherent or believable.

Do you remember when those two total rookies went to England to look at cathedrals? 🙏

And remember Marve on the forum who was backing them up? What a disaster.

Bryan Booth82 said:It doesn’t even stop there! The Russians start making gains after being absolutely hammered by the other side... and then they claim they never even intended to move in the first place! They lose the pride of their fleet—which just sinks on its own—they retreat from the islands, and suddenly they’re all showing "goodwill"? Give me a break!

lp

Their propaganda is honestly nauseating. It reminds me far too much of another group of people living right next door to us.
Do they actually believe everyone has such a low IQ that they’ll just swallow these absurd stories?
I suppose they think that if they can hook just 10-15% of the population in the West with their nonsense, that percentage is enough to keep the propaganda machine running indefinitely.

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/st...Cz7a_Ut-gqAAAA

So, Russian state media is out here claiming they’ve taken down 1,000 Lockheed Martins over Ukraine 🙏. 🙏 🙏

I mean, seriously? What kind of math are they using? They're claiming to have shot down more TB2s than Lockheed Martin has even manufactured in total. 🙏

wearyheron5 said:It sounds like some bad MP3 track about Eurasia stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok..

If they had actually exercised any intelligence, they could have integrated into a stronger economic framework with the United Nations—especially now that the Brits have finally pulled out—which would have allowed both them and the UN to maximize profits. It would have forced the Britons and Americans to actually stop and consider the shifting landscape. But no. They insist on deploying tanks just like they did fifty years ago to flatten Ukraine. They aren't subtle enough to exert influence through economic leverage; instead, they revert to the same methods used a century ago: fire and sword.
In short, their incompetence is absolute.

Meanwhile, over in another corner of the map, China’s Belt and Road initiative—specifically the Shanghai-Berlin route—is bypassing Russia because it just doesn't make enough sense financially.

hollowdriver13 said:https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/st...Cz7a_Ut-gqAAAA

So, Russian state media is out here claiming they’ve taken down 1,000 Lockheed Martins over Ukraine 🙏. 🙏 🙏

I mean, seriously? What kind of math are they using? They're claiming to have shot down more TB2s than Lockheed Martin has even manufactured in total. 🙏

They’re basically saying they downed every single one ever made three times over 🤣 🤣

Honestly, these guys are absolute legends at being delusional, though—they never fail to deliver that signature dose of pure fiction and nonsense we've come to expect from them 🙏 🙏

It would be pretty hilarious if a massive amount of people weren't actually losing their lives because of this level of stupidity 😢

Gerald Torres84 said:If they had actually exercised any intelligence, they could have integrated into a stronger economic framework with the United Nations—especially now that the Brits have finally pulled out—which would have allowed both them and the UN to maximize profits. It would have forced the Britons and Americans to actually stop and consider the shifting landscape. But no. They insist on deploying tanks just like they did fifty years ago to flatten Ukraine. They aren't subtle enough to exert influence through economic leverage; instead, they revert to the same methods used a century ago: fire and sword.
In short, their incompetence is absolute.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Just imagine if they’d spent thirty years working toward joining the EU (assuming that's even possible, which isn't totally crazy) especially with the UK gone... they’d be an absolute powerhouse.

As it stands, they’re still just the biggest country in the world that manages to trip over its own feet every time it tries to do something right. 🙏