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darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5201 ·
Jesse Hughes6 said:They even gave warnings to places like Germany about the sheer stupidity of putting all their eggs in one basket.

Just imagine you're sitting there with millions of dollars stuffed into every drawer and closet in your house, but there’s one tiny catch—someone welded your doors and windows shut and you can't actually get out.

Does the reality of how useless a trade surplus figure becomes when you strip away the context seem a bit clearer now?

Basically, all their exits are completely sealed off. 🤣
Out of 193 doors (all those UN members), about 40 of them have basically slammed the windows and doors shut on them.
Some weird math happening there, where apparently 40 is somehow more than 153... I guess? 😁

Edit

Just saw that The New York Times—aka Yahoo—is reporting that Ukrainians are pulling back from Donetsk and that the EU is bracing for a brutal winter.
All I can say is... honestly, screw their Putinophile nonsense.
Sanction glory!
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#5202 ·
darkdriver said:Basically, all their exits are completely sealed off. 🤣
Out of 193 doors (all those UN members), about 40 of them have basically slammed the windows and doors shut on them.
Some weird math happening there, where apparently 40 is somehow more than 153... I guess? 😁

Edit

Just saw that The New York Times—aka Yahoo—is reporting that Ukrainians are pulling back from Donetsk and that the EU is bracing for a brutal winter.
All I can say is... honestly, screw their Putinophile nonsense.
Sanction glory!

It's interesting how you're indirectly suggesting that 40 "closed doors" isn't actually that big of a deal. 🤔
But let's be real: 40 is significantly more than zero, isn't it?

Take Germany, the USA, the EU, or China, for example... nobody is "closing doors" on them, right?
I honestly can't stand having to listen to the same recycled propaganda over and over again, claiming that "closing doors" on Russia is nothing but a win for us. 🤦 🤦

Best,
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5203 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:It's interesting how you're indirectly suggesting that 40 "closed doors" isn't actually that big of a deal. 🤔
But let's be real: 40 is significantly more than zero, isn't it?

Take Germany, the USA, the EU, or China, for example... nobody is "closing doors" on them, right?
I honestly can't stand having to listen to the same recycled propaganda over and over again, claiming that "closing doors" on Russia is nothing but a win for us. 🤦 🤦

Best,

In algebra, 40 was always basically a killer—it’d just breeze past 153 every single time, I guess.
Honestly, that’s just how things work according to this whole new way of thinking—you know, the one they've been teaching in schools since the White House approved the latest curriculum.
Go ahead—try to prove me wrong.
Oh, you really think you can handle me? I guess we'll just have to see about that—bring it on!
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#5204 ·
darkdriver said:Basically, all their exits are completely sealed off. 🤣
Out of 193 doors (all those UN members), about 40 of them have basically slammed the windows and doors shut on them.
Some weird math happening there, where apparently 40 is somehow more than 153... I guess? 😁

Edit

Just saw that The New York Times—aka Yahoo—is reporting that Ukrainians are pulling back from Donetsk and that the EU is bracing for a brutal winter.
All I can say is... honestly, screw their Putinophile nonsense.
Sanction glory!

Because let's be real, a single country like the UK or even Suriname doesn't carry nearly that much weight on the global stage...
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#5205 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Because let's be real, a single country like the UK or even Suriname doesn't carry nearly that much weight on the global stage...

And honestly, the Russians aren't even asking for the sanctions to be lifted...
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5206 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Because let's be real, a single country like the UK or even Suriname doesn't carry nearly that much weight on the global stage...

Was he actually talking about global influence, or just how many doors and windows they managed to weld shut?
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#5207 ·
slyfox43 said:It seems someone hasn't quite heard the legend of King Midas.

Nobody’s ever even heard of Mexico or Regoč. In the end, you just have two villages that hate each other, and one decides to break the dam because they sit on higher ground. Once both sides see the water rushing in, they just come out of their houses with instruments and start singing and celebrating the destruction of the other village. ☕

You can't just cut off a major global exporter of raw materials and goods from world trade without long-term planning. It's like putting sanctions on Texas and expecting Montana to make up the production gap. Eventually, the folks in Mexico will realize they can just buy those products from Texas and resell them as their own at a massive markup. And when a right-wing leader like Viktor Orbán tries to convince Europe to stop doing things that might make his own citizens uncomfortable, suddenly he's labeled a Putinophile. You guys are getting tired of acting like everything about this is positive. It’s like a Gestapo officer telling a Jewish person everything will be fine while walking them into Auschwitz. ☕

Just like how citrus fruit found its way to Russia after the 2014 sanctions, oil and gas will find their way into Eastern Europe. There simply isn't enough capacity to ramp up production elsewhere. There's enough supply to go around, but the wealthiest nations are going to be the ones buying it.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#5208 ·
darkdriver said:Was he actually talking about global influence, or just how many doors and windows they managed to weld shut?

Nah, if you read it a little more closely, he didn't mention the quantity at all.
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#5209 ·
darkdriver said:In algebra, 40 was always basically a killer—it’d just breeze past 153 every single time, I guess.
Honestly, that’s just how things work according to this whole new way of thinking—you know, the one they've been teaching in schools since the White House approved the latest curriculum.
Go ahead—try to prove me wrong.
Oh, you really think you can handle me? I guess we'll just have to see about that—bring it on!

Fine, no problem. But since I don't want to make this list interminable, let's be pragmatic here. Why don't you try to give me an approximation? Who exactly belongs on the list of "40 closed doors," and who makes up the "153 open doors"?

Look, I have absolutely no intention of belittling anyone—that wouldn't be right—but we need to stick to the facts. And if we are talking about facts, then the whole point of sanction glory becomes clear (or if you prefer to call them "closed doors").
I mean, it would be wonderful if Somalia joined the condemnation of aggression and implemented their own sanctions... but since that hasn't happened, the reality is that such a decision doesn't carry much weight. After all, the algebra we are discussing remains exact.
Somalia's GDP is $4.7 billion.
Japan's GDP is $47 billion.

The full list and the final sum would be incredibly long, wouldn't it?

Best regards,
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5210 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Nah, if you read it a little more closely, he didn't mention the quantity at all.

Literal quote

Imagine having piles of cash sitting at home—like, millions of dollars stuffed in closets and drawers. But there’s one tiny catch—someone went ahead and welded all your doors and windows shut, so now you're totally trapped inside.

Look, if someone welds your doors and windows shut and you can't get out, then yeah, I guess it means they welded every single door and window.😉
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#5211 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:Fine, no problem. But since I don't want to make this list interminable, let's be pragmatic here. Why don't you try to give me an approximation? Who exactly belongs on the list of "40 closed doors," and who makes up the "153 open doors"?

Look, I have absolutely no intention of belittling anyone—that wouldn't be right—but we need to stick to the facts. And if we are talking about facts, then the whole point of sanction glory becomes clear (or if you prefer to call them "closed doors").
I mean, it would be wonderful if Somalia joined the condemnation of aggression and implemented their own sanctions... but since that hasn't happened, the reality is that such a decision doesn't carry much weight. After all, the algebra we are discussing remains exact.
Somalia's GDP is $4.7 billion.
Japan's GDP is $47 billion.

The full list and the final sum would be incredibly long, wouldn't it?

Best regards,

I'm guessing you meant $4.7 trillion, but the actual number is actually a bit higher, sitting at $5,081 billion.
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#5212 ·
hollowdriver13 said:I'm guessing you meant $4.7 trillion, but the actual number is actually a bit higher, sitting at $5,081 billion.

Oh, sure, just a little slip of the tongue, right? As if such a massive discrepancy matters at all.😉

lp
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5213 ·
Is Google gonna just ignore China's GDP?
I know, I know—we're all basically becoming Chinese puppets at this point
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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#5214 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:Honestly, shouldn't we look at this from a more positive angle? These sanctions are designed to squeeze Putin, and back home, they’re just going to kickstart the transition away from fossil fuels that was already well underway.

The Germans have this obsession with debating everything to death beforehand just to send a message to their government—which, let's be honest, usually just comes across as endless complaining.

Companies aren't going to just shut down overnight, but they will be forced to accelerate their transformation... all while soaking up massive government subsidies, which is the ultimate goal here... just more complaining.

Best,

Replacing fossil fuels with coal and nuclear plants? Honestly, who knows what kind of "green" nonsense they'll try to push on us next. You can tell these people are just pawns, basically trained in certain political academies to follow orders.

To them, Orbán is nothing more than a distraction.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#5215 ·
darkdriver said:Is Google gonna just ignore China's GDP?
I know, I know—we're all basically becoming Chinese puppets at this point

Feel free to run a quick search on the export trends from China to Russia.
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#5216 ·
darkdriver said:Is Google gonna just ignore China's GDP?
I know, I know—we're all basically becoming Chinese puppets at this point

Fine, go ahead, "Google it" if you want...
But let me give you a reality check using a simple analogy. If you have a one-liter bottle, sure, you can pour exactly one liter of water into it.🤔
Now, if you have 40 bottles, you can certainly guarantee those first 40 liters. But what about the other 153? Who knows? You might run out of water before they're full. Maybe some bottles are cracked, maybe some are empty, or maybe you barely manage to squeeze out another 20 or 30 liters. How on earth do you expect to fill them all perfectly every single time?
The truth is, it sounds easy on paper, but it's a nightmare in practice. You actually have to organize the logistics, secure the shipping, establish the supply chains, chase down payments, and hit strict deadlines... everything that happened effortlessly with those first 40 units requires massive coordination. It doesn't just happen by magic!

Glory to Sanctions LP
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5217 ·
Man, I really thought the folks over at the embassy in D.C.—you know, like all US embassies out there—actually employed smart people, but these guys? They honestly make that little gnome back home look like a genius by comparison
Like I’ve said before, the Russians are just creeping forward like cowards while the Ukrainians are making those brave tactical retreats 🤣 It’s straight up Alan Ford vibes over there
Actually, maybe I was being too hard on the old crew at The New York Times—specifically that whole Stalinist era crowd—because honestly, today's "journalists" and their handlers could probably learn a thing or two from them... or even from Goebbels, if we're being real
Glory to Sanctions
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5218 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:Fine, go ahead, "Google it" if you want...
But let me give you a reality check using a simple analogy. If you have a one-liter bottle, sure, you can pour exactly one liter of water into it.🤔
Now, if you have 40 bottles, you can certainly guarantee those first 40 liters. But what about the other 153? Who knows? You might run out of water before they're full. Maybe some bottles are cracked, maybe some are empty, or maybe you barely manage to squeeze out another 20 or 30 liters. How on earth do you expect to fill them all perfectly every single time?
The truth is, it sounds easy on paper, but it's a nightmare in practice. You actually have to organize the logistics, secure the shipping, establish the supply chains, chase down payments, and hit strict deadlines... everything that happened effortlessly with those first 40 units requires massive coordination. It doesn't just happen by magic!

Glory to Sanctions LP

So, how many liters actually go into a barrel? I guess it depends on what kind of barrel you're talking about—like, are we talking about industrial oil stuff or just a standard container? But if you're asking about the standard oil barrel used here in the States, it's about 42 gallons... which works out to roughly 159 liters. Just a little heads-up though—it can vary depending on who's doing the measuring, I suppose!
Glory to Sanctions LP!
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#5219 ·
darkdriver said:So, how many liters actually go into a barrel? I guess it depends on what kind of barrel you're talking about—like, are we talking about industrial oil stuff or just a standard container? But if you're asking about the standard oil barrel used here in the States, it's about 42 gallons... which works out to roughly 159 liters. Just a little heads-up though—it can vary depending on who's doing the measuring, I suppose!
Glory to Sanctions LP!

Go ahead, Google it... though honestly, it feels like you've either finally woken up to reality or you're just running out of ways to defend Russia's supposed economic bright future.

lp
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
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#5220 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:Go ahead, Google it... though honestly, it feels like you've either finally woken up to reality or you're just running out of ways to defend Russia's supposed economic bright future.

lp

Look, I’m honestly too exhausted to dive deep into this myself—and you clearly know your stuff when it comes to all those numbers and volumes—so I figured I'd just ask you.
The Russians, though—they're basically built to live large. Like, their whole history is just one long stretch of decadence and over-the-top extravagance, so I mean, losing that lifestyle is probably gonna hit them pretty hard.
I guess those 153 UN member states will surely step up and send them some humanitarian aid, maybe just some loaves of bread and salted fish, just so they don't, you know, actually starve.
But honestly? I'm more worried about what's happening in Europe. Since I'm such a total Putinophile—I mean, I really enjoy all the perks that come with it—I still find myself questioning things. And from what I can see, things aren't exactly looking great for our own domestic industries right now.
Glory to Sanctions
Lp

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