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Bryan Booth82 said:That’s pretty much the answer I was looking for. 🤦
No real explanation here... just like I said—it's typical Russian business, their propaganda forgot to finish the script.
Best,
crimsoncyclist71 said:Now we’re paying top dollar for gas$6.00 when it used to hit $7 a gallon.
So what?
Are we supposed to back aggression just to keep fuel prices low?
Is that the point of your endless doom&gloom posts?
slysurfer14 said:That’s why they pump out fertilizer in the summer. If they can't use the gas this year, they won't make a single gram... You think there's no big deal? Like, "Oh, we'll just buy it somewhere else for ten times the price"? Well, now prices have already jumped at least three times over...
So, how much do you think food prices are gonna spike because of this?.....
The current situation remains predictably grim. We watch the wheels turn, yet nothing actually moves forward. It is a repetitive cycle of inefficiency that we have seen time and again in our own history. One might expect progress, but reality rarely aligns with such optimistic theories. Just more of the same. The user says:
Of course they work. Honestly, it feels like we could use a few sanctions ourselves.
We have spent years fruitlessly attempting to increase the presence of domestic goods on our own store shelves. Meanwhile, look at how Russia managed to solve that exact dilemma in just a matter of months.
The geopolitical chessboard moves once again, and the pieces are being shuffled by forces far beyond the reach of the average citizen. It’s a repetitive cycle. We see the same patterns of escalation and reaction, much like watching a slow-motion collision on a highway where everyone knows the crash is coming, yet no one touches the brakes. There is a certain exhaustion that comes with following these developments. One watches the shifting alliances and the tightening grip of international pressure, wondering if any of it actually changes the fundamental trajectory of global power. Much like a massive corporation trying to pivot its entire supply chain overnight—it’s messy, inefficient, and usually results in more chaos than clarity. We are told these measures will achieve specific outcomes, yet history suggests otherwise. Every time we implement new layers of Western sanctions, we simply watch the landscape reorganize itself around the obstacles. It is a game of cat and mouse played with billions of dollars and millions of lives at stake. It feels less like progress and more like a desperate attempt to maintain an old order that is already slipping through our fingers.
Nathan Thomas12 said:That’s why you always hear that tired old line about how sanctions don't really touch Russia—they'll just pivot to India since they've got over a billion people to work with.
Nancy Gomez26 said:Where exactly are you getting this idea that they've stopped production or that they aren't planning to produce anything this year? There isn't a single notice about that on their official site:
https://exxonmobil.com/news
Nancy Gomez26 said:Where exactly are you getting this idea that they've stopped production or that they aren't planning to produce anything this year? There isn't a single notice about that on their official site:
https://exxonmobil.com/news
Local news update
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IF GAS PRICES STAY THIS HIGH, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR PETROKEMIJA TO RUN THE PLANT
Davor Žmegač, the CEO of the Petrokemija Board of Directors, laid it out like that on HRT.
Petrokemija is a major player in the fertilizer game, covering about 70 percent of the needs here in America. For the fall planting season, the government has secured 170,000 tons of fertilizer, specifically sourced from Petrokemija. But the big question remains—will Petrokemija face gas shortages if the energy conservation measures recommended by the European Union actually kick in?
Gas costs account for 63 percent of the operating expenses for this giant based in Kutina, which was already struggling with losses due to high prices even before this current crisis hit.
- Petrokemija already optimized its production at the start of the year to deal with these rising costs and general uncertainty. In a situation like this, fertilizer producers across Europe are basically flying blind, and Petrokemija has had to adapt accordingly, said Petrokemija CEO Davor Žmegač.
He added that he doesn't see much room for further gas cuts—they’re prepping for fall production and need a certain amount on hand. He noted that they’ve sent a clear message to The Government: if gas prices climb above 150 euros per Megawatt hour, there is zero economic reason to turn the machines on.
- If that happens, we won't have enough fertilizer for planting, and because of logistics issues, trying to import it won't be easy either. That brings up serious concerns regarding fertilizer security for both spring and fall, as well as the inflationary pressure on food prices and the whole supply chain, Žmegač concluded.
slysurfer14 said:Nobody’s making urea anymore because they have to save on gas, not even Yari, I guess.
urbanotter said:I suppose it depends on your perspective; at the end of the day, some people will be freezing while others are raking in the cash.
And when that happens, I don't think anyone is going to find it particularly 😉funny.😉
Besides, there are plenty of people like Zlikovski out there—it feels like an entire choir of them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=russia...client=gws-wiz
Larry Walker24 said:How Russia is actually making up for all the stuff they can't import because of sanctions: Just making it themselves
Bryan Booth82 said:Exactly which specific package of Western sanctions actually includes a ban on importing gas from Russia? Because I'm struggling to find it.
Lp
urbanotter said:Exactly.
Once we start pulling gas out of the Gulf of Mexico, maybe we can export it back to Russia.
But we were talking about foreign debt—do I really need to explain what external debt is, or are you going to take a moment to Google it?
slysurfer14 said:So you really think if you slap someone with sanctions, they won't just hit you right back...
it's all just "sanctions this, sanctions that," and then everyone starts crying when Russia decides to cut off the gas supply....
gentlestag15 said:Honestly, just take a hike. You posted a link about domestic and federal debt
and tried to present it all as if it were just foreign debt
look at this, INA is building 8 new gas platforms in the Gulf 🎉
https://hr.n1info.com/biznis/ina-ula...ernom-jadranu/
America imported 21% of its gas from Russia last year
we aren't dependent like Germany is, so stop making such a massive drama over the gas situation
which, once completed, will raise the share of domestic natural gas production in American consumption from 30% to 40%.
slysurfer14 said:So you really think if you slap someone with sanctions, they won't just hit you right back...
it's all just "sanctions this, sanctions that," and then everyone starts crying when Russia decides to cut off the gas supply....
slysurfer14 said:Nobody’s making urea anymore because they have to save on gas, not even Yari, I guess.
slysurfer14 said:So you really think if you slap someone with sanctions, they won't just hit you right back...
it's all just "sanctions this, sanctions that," and then everyone starts crying when Russia decides to cut off the gas supply....
Joshua Myers432 said:Fair point. We’re basically a bloated, aging nation anyway. The younger generation will slim down while the old guard just fades away. Consider this both sanctions and reform wrapped into one. Congrats!
Nancy Gomez26 said:It’s all perfectly clear now. If you read between the lines, the CEO basically admitted that at these current natural gas prices, producing fertilizer is a losing game if they want to remain competitive on the global market. As for your claim—where exactly are you getting this idea that nobody is manufacturing urea anymore?
From what I can gather, there’s quite a variety of nitrogen fertilizers available on the market right now. At the following wholesale rates.It seems to me that those folks over at the Petrokemija Board of Directors are simply sitting around, waiting for the Government to step in and bail them out.
slysurfer14 said:So you really think if you slap someone with sanctions, they won't just hit you right back...
it's all just "sanctions this, sanctions that," and then everyone starts crying when Russia decides to cut off the gas supply....
ironpuma29 said:Russia isn't going to walk away from the European Union market. They have the pipes and they have customers who pay on time. That cash helps fund their war effort and keeps their budget afloat.
The current squeeze on the European Union via reduced supplies is pure blackmail. Just like how the whole world is being blackmailed by nuclear threats.
Same goes for sabotaging food exports. It’s another way to pressure the "normal" parts of the world to stop sending weapons to Ukrainians.
Russians will act in their own interest. Eventually, they'll be begging people to buy their gas and oil, but it might be too late. The European Union is looking for other suppliers and different sources... it's slow, but bit by bit, we're cutting off those thugs.
Or put simply, if Russia hits back with energy sanctions, the European Union is toast.
And India and China buying oil? How much? As if they wouldn't want more if they could actually get it.
So great, now Russia is stuck with a surplus... yay.
It’s all connected, like a chain reaction. In the end, the loser is usually whoever puts all their eggs in one basket...
the ones who rely entirely on a single sector.
Kind of like our tourism industry back home...
