#6501 ·
slysurfer14 said:Just watch.
From what I can tell, Putin isn't the one cutting off the supply, but then again, the European Union is definitely making moves to ditch that gas entirely.
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#6502 ·
Donna Harris11 said:Natural gas is totally overrated. Honestly, if you want to feel warm, all you really need is a solid space heater and a hot cup of coffee.
exactly... warming up is easy, but cooling down is the real issue...
#6503 ·
slysurfer14 said:Actually, it's the exact opposite. Europe will never give up Russian energy.
Why?
Maybe slysurfer14 knows... let the rest of us blind and deaf hear it too
#6504 ·
ironpuma29 said:Why?
Maybe slysurfer14 knows... let the rest of us blind and deaf hear it too
They're right there, cheap as hell, but I guess politicians just don't give a damn about money.....
#6505 ·
slysurfer14 said:The recent volatility in energy markets serves as a grim reminder that stability is often just an illusion. We watch as industrial giants struggle to navigate shifting supply chains and fluctuating costs, much like a heavy freighter trying to steer through a sudden storm without a compass. It is a repetitive cycle: uncertainty breeds hesitation, and hesitation leads to economic stagnation. Look at the manufacturing sector. When input costs spike unexpectedly, the ripple effects aren't contained to a single factory floor; they move through the entire economy like a slow-acting toxin. We see companies attempting to hedge their bets, yet they often find themselves caught between rising operational expenses and a consumer base that is increasingly unwilling to absorb higher prices. It is a delicate, precarious balancing act that most organizations are ill-equipped to perform. History suggests that these periods of adjustment are rarely smooth. They are characterized by frantic pivots and forced consolidations. One might compare it to a game of chess where the rules change mid-match—suddenly, the pieces you thought were protecting your flank are actually exposing your center. We are seeing this play out in real-time across the domestic landscape. Efficiency is being chased, but in the current climate, efficiency often looks more like desperate survivalism.
If you had bothered to actually read the beginning of the link you shared, you would have realized that Yara hasn't completely halted ammonia and urea production. They’ve simply scaled back operations at their plants in Italy and France. Given that they operate facilities in other regions, it stands to reason they are merely shifting production to locations where it's more cost-effective. A sensationalist headline is designed to mislead; one must actually engage with the text to find the truth.
At Dow Chemical, they always have a convenient excuse ready to shut down an entire plant just because it isn't profitable—not that they ever cared about profitability before this crisis hit, either. Meanwhile, it’s perfectly profitable for Yari.
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After the global fertilizer giant Yara announced that... The rising cost of natural gas. It’s becoming an inevitable weight on everyone's shoulders. It diminishes. Production. Ammonia and urea production in Italy and France—it’s all following the same pattern. Dow Chemical just announced the exact same decision today.
As I mentioned before, the folks over at Dow Chemical are now looking to the government for a bailout because of this crisis. It’s a classic move—an opportunity to line their pockets, and they’ve mastered that particular craft long ago. Meanwhile, companies like Grupo are being supplied with fertilizer that was never even paid for. But that's a whole different story...
#6506 ·
slysurfer14 said:Actually, it's the exact opposite. Europe will never give up Russian energy.
I find myself partially agreeing with that assessment. Once gas starts flowing from Russia at a reasonable price—devoid of political strings or sudden conditions—and once Russia begins behaving like a decent neighbor toward its peers, the supply will naturally gravitate back toward the European Union. For now, they ought to sit back and reflect on why those sanctions were imposed in the first place.
#6507 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:I find myself partially agreeing with that assessment. Once gas starts flowing from Russia at a reasonable price—devoid of political strings or sudden conditions—and once Russia begins behaving like a decent neighbor toward its peers, the supply will naturally gravitate back toward the European Union. For now, they ought to sit back and reflect on why those sanctions were imposed in the first place.
You’re totally tripping if you think Europe is crying because the gas isn't coming...
#6508 ·
slysurfer14 said:You’re totally tripping if you think Europe is crying because the gas isn't coming...
Look, you gotta distinguish between the media and what's actually happening in Europe. The news outlets aren't the ones causing the panic; they're just feeding on it. Honestly, those media types would probably try to start a mass panic over a little bit of acid rain in a tropical rainforest if they thought it would drive up their click counts.
#6509 ·
So, when are we finally getting some revolutions over in Europe? I see Russians posting on Telegram claiming they haven't even started yet compared to what happened back in 1848.
#6510 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Look, you gotta distinguish between the media and what's actually happening in Europe. The news outlets aren't the ones causing the panic; they're just feeding on it. Honestly, those media types would probably try to start a mass panic over a little bit of acid rain in a tropical rainforest if they thought it would drive up their click counts.
Yeah, and the news outlets will call emergency meetings and pass resolutions about gas rationing...
I guess we'll see how fast they act when things actually go south.
#6511 ·
slysurfer14 said:Yeah, and the news outlets will call emergency meetings and pass resolutions about gas rationing...
I guess we'll see how fast they act when things actually go south.
I mean, just imagine if you actually agreed to manage your supplies more rationally to avoid exactly that kind of chaos. We run out of stuff, and suddenly everyone’s acting like you can't plan consumption....
But nope, you'd rather just sit there waiting for the whole system to collapse, or you'll take a month-long break just to come back later with those same old "the West is crumbling!!!!!" talking points from the left-wing crowd, right?
Look, I know doom-and-gloom predictions aren't really your thing, but just think back to all those May announcements about how gas prices would hit $6.75 per gallon this summer if Russia turns off the taps while Americans and Europeans scramble for their annual supply.....hm, wait, how many gallons does a standard tank even hold?
#6512 ·
I honestly thought I was being smart by putting all those trolls on ignore, but here I am, still replying to them over and over again 🤦
I’m really trying my best not to read their nonsense, but man, seeing how uneducated some people are just absolutely stings
But you've gotta laugh at that specific narrative they push: acting like they have some kind of crystal ball that lets them know exactly what the future holds 🙏 🙏
I’m really trying my best not to read their nonsense, but man, seeing how uneducated some people are just absolutely stings
But you've gotta laugh at that specific narrative they push: acting like they have some kind of crystal ball that lets them know exactly what the future holds 🙏 🙏
#6513 ·
analogbear5 said:So, when are we finally getting some revolutions over in Europe? I see Russians posting on Telegram claiming they haven't even started yet compared to what happened back in 1848.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...hout-pipeline/
Annalena Baerbock said the US government told Canada that if the missing turbine led to a stoppage of natural gas from Russia, it could spark popular uprisings and force Washington to halt support for Ukraine.
#6514 ·
Honestly, instead of bleeding themselves dry paying for overpriced gas, people should just take that extra cash and pre-pay for some coastal rentals from California to Florida during the off-season when those places are mostly empty anyway. Why not just shut the whole country down for a few months? Since the industrial sector is going to be paralyzed regardless, they might as well make it official. I’m thinking if they actually shuttered things, they could probably fund the gap through other means instead of hiking up energy and utility bills for every single person under the sun. Plus, it would keep all that capital circulating within the US and heading toward states that actually need the stimulus, rather than letting it all flow straight into the pockets of Russians...
#6515 ·
hollowdriver13 said:I mean, just imagine if you actually agreed to manage your supplies more rationally to avoid exactly that kind of chaos. We run out of stuff, and suddenly everyone’s acting like you can't plan consumption....
But nope, you'd rather just sit there waiting for the whole system to collapse, or you'll take a month-long break just to come back later with those same old "the West is crumbling!!!!!" talking points from the left-wing crowd, right?
Look, I know doom-and-gloom predictions aren't really your thing, but just think back to all those May announcements about how gas prices would hit $6.75 per gallon this summer if Russia turns off the taps while Americans and Europeans scramble for their annual supply.....hm, wait, how many gallons does a standard tank even hold?
$5.25
#6517 ·
hiddeneagle98 said:Right now, it's sitting below 13
Just look at the premium fuels that aren't tied to whatever the government decides...
#6518 ·
slysurfer14 said:Just look at the premium fuels that aren't tied to whatever the government decides...
Premium fuel? Yeah, right. Not me.
#6519 ·
slysurfer14 said:Just look at the premium fuels that aren't tied to whatever the government decides...
With crude trading at $96 a barrel globally, we're looking at roughly $1.50 per liter.
The truth is, every single type of fuel—premium included—is basically under the thumb of the government thanks to all the taxes and fees they slap on top.
#6520 ·
Nathan Thomas12 said:With crude trading at $96 a barrel globally, we're looking at roughly $1.50 per liter.
The truth is, every single type of fuel—premium included—is basically under the thumb of the government thanks to all the taxes and fees they slap on top.
That $96 is WTI Crude; for Europe, it’s closer to $103. Roughly.
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