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hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
joined Feb 2022
#8081 ·
Jeremy Turner9 said:I don't have the time to hunt down specific links right now...

Russia is preparing to ramp up production, and if they have to revert to the industrial scales seen back in the 1980s to make it happen, they will...

They have amassed such massive foreign exchange reserves that they are actually weighing down the ruble and stifling their own economy. It's reached a point where one could theoretically walk away with over $10,000 in cash. They attempted to offload some of this capital onto the Chinese, but the Chinese aren't interested because of the complexities surrounding their own currency; from what I understand, countries like Turkey are much more desperate for that kind of liquidity...

Within the European Union, the actual impact of sanctions on the Russian economy has become a secondary concern for us. We aren't trading with them, we aren't lending them money, we have no desire to accept their investments, and we certainly have no interest in investing in Russia ourselves. The fundamental paradigm has shifted: we simply no longer hold any economic or financial stake in Russia or its affairs.

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Wait, what??

The reason you can't buy more than $10k isn't because of foreign currency "suffocating" the ruble. It's for an entirely different reason.🤦
Jeremy Turner9 Jeremy Turner9 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jul 2010
#8082 ·
Nathan Thomas12 As stated by:
When you look at the sheer scale of the African continent, encompassing fifty-four distinct nations, it remains striking to realize that their combined GDP still doesn't even reach half of what Japan produces.

Richard Wilson4 As stated by:
It feels like an endless exercise in futility trying to explain these nuances to those who subscribe blindly to Chomskyan linguistics.

hollowdriver13 As stated by:
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I am somewhat at a loss; I find myself struggling to grasp the core of what you are attempting to convey.

There is another reason why you can't purchase more than $10,000 at a time, and it has nothing to do with the idea that foreign currency is somehow "strangling" the domestic economy. 🤦

If they lack the necessary outlets for their capital, their imports will inevitably suffer; if one has been paying close attention, it becomes clear that Russia is increasingly conducting trade with other nations using local currencies rather than relying on traditional Western systems.
They were busy selling off energy assets while simultaneously building up their strategic reserves...

Is it possible to pick up some Rubles while you're here in Washington, D.C., and if so, where exactly would one find a use for them?

The current trajectory of the Russian economy suggests a complex interplay between superficial resilience and deep-seated structural vulnerabilities. While some analysts point to high levels of state spending and redirected trade flows as evidence of stability, this perspective often overlooks the erosion of long-term industrial capacity and the mounting pressures placed on the domestic manufacturing sector. Much like a large corporation that maintains its quarterly dividends by aggressively liquidating its core assets or taking on unsustainable debt, the outward appearance of growth can mask a significant decline in fundamental health. The heavy reliance on energy exports remains a double-edged sword. Although increased demand from certain Asian markets provides a temporary lifeline, the necessity of offering steep discounts to maintain volume creates a precarious fiscal environment. We see a scenario where the state is essentially subsidizing its own survival through a constant, exhausting cycle of pivoting supply chains, which ultimately drains the very resources needed for modernization. It is reminiscent of an aging infrastructure system being kept afloat by patchwork repairs rather than meaningful investment; eventually, the cost of maintenance will outpace the ability to pay for it. Furthermore, the tightening of labor markets and the brain drain resulting from geopolitical shifts pose a quiet but existential threat to future innovation. When a nation’s most skilled professionals seek opportunities elsewhere, the intellectual capital required to transition toward a more diversified economy evaporates. This loss isn't just a statistical shift in employment data; it is a slow hemorrhage of the specialized talent that drives technological progress. Without a robust foundation of human capital, any attempt at economic restructuring will likely remain superficial, leaving the country caught in a loop of reactive policy rather than proactive development.

He took a thirty-five percent hit on his imports...
Nathan Thomas12 Nathan Thomas12 Regular
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#8083 ·
wiredseal7 said:The deficit in the Eurozone is really just the boomerang effect of those Russian sanctions.

Where'd you hear that?
The Boeing 737—just about ready to hit the skies:
The certification process for the Boeing 737—or whatever they’re calling their latest attempt to play catch-up—is looking like a massive uphill battle. It's not just about passing some tests; it's about navigating a regulatory maze that feels more like a political minefield than actual safety checks. Honestly, trying to get these planes cleared for takeoff feels a lot like trying to get a permit for a backyard pool in Los Angeles—endless paperwork, endless scrutiny, and everyone watching your every move just waiting for you to slip up.

Then there's that whole Russia-China joint venture with the C929—just another mess in the making.
Looks like the competition is finally heating up—Boeing 737 isn't going to be the only player left in the sky forever. It’s just a matter of how much pressure the industry can take before things shift.

Sure, it says here that China might actually favor Western companies over Russian ones—but let's be real, it’s probably just those sanctions doing the heavy lifting—though given how hostile the US has been acting lately, maybe they'll actually change their minds.

Bottom line: there aren't any sanctions on gas.
The other sanctions would have to stay in place for decades.
Nathan Thomas12 Nathan Thomas12 Regular
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joined Apr 2022
#8084 ·
wiredseal7 said:Just pointing out that Americans love to play hypocrite—accusing OPEC+ of exactly what they've been doing themselves for the last six months—while calling it something completely different.

So, what exactly have they been doing for the last six months?
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
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joined Apr 2016
#8085 ·
Nathan Thomas12 said:So, what exactly have they been doing for the last six months?

If my memory serves me right, they've basically been draining our own Department of Energy reserves.

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President Biden’s Dangerous Use Of The Strategic Petroleum Reserve
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl...h=5e0be8eb4047

Joe was banking on the idea that the Prince would just step in and refill everything, but apparently, things have gotten a little more complicated than he anticipated...
Whether domestic production can actually bridge that gap remains to be seen, though honestly, I haven't the slightest clue myself...
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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joined May 2024
#8086 ·
brightheron64 said:If my memory serves me right, they've basically been draining our own Department of Energy reserves.

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President Biden’s Dangerous Use Of The Strategic Petroleum Reserve
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl...h=5e0be8eb4047

Joe was banking on the idea that the Prince would just step in and refill everything, but apparently, things have gotten a little more complicated than he anticipated...
Whether domestic production can actually bridge that gap remains to be seen, though honestly, I haven't the slightest clue myself...

Global daily production sits at about 90 million barrels,
but old man Joe slashed his own reserves by 200 million barrels in just one year.
That's a massive scandal on a global scale, really.🤣
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
408 messages
joined Apr 2016
#8087 ·
gentlestag15 said:Global daily production sits at about 90 million barrels,
but old man Joe slashed his own reserves by 200 million barrels in just one year.
That's a massive scandal on a global scale, really.🤣

The Department of Energy isn't doing me any favors lately, whether I'm looking at my savings or my bank account... though I suppose the only time I even think about it is when I’m pulling up to the Shell station and nervously checking the calendar for Tuesday... 😁

From what I’ve been gathering while keeping an eye on the American media landscape, it seems like there’s a whole lot of grumbling going on lately—especially when you look at how outlets like Forbes are covering things, not to mention the constant noise coming out of Fox News...
How much of a concern this actually is for Americans themselves, as I was saying before... 🤷
I truly wish God would grant us a world where fuel costs were lower than they are here in the States, but unfortunately, that just isn't the reality we're facing...
Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active Member
238 messages
joined Feb 2013
#8088 ·
brightheron64 said:If my memory serves me right, they've basically been draining our own Department of Energy reserves.

image

President Biden’s Dangerous Use Of The Strategic Petroleum Reserve
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl...h=5e0be8eb4047

Joe was banking on the idea that the Prince would just step in and refill everything, but apparently, things have gotten a little more complicated than he anticipated...
Whether domestic production can actually bridge that gap remains to be seen, though honestly, I haven't the slightest clue myself...

It can, sure—but there's a catch: you're looking at higher prices for refined products because production costs here in the USA are significantly higher than they are in Saudi Arabia. Plus, this isn't an overnight fix; it takes time.

It’s exactly like when you run out of bread, can't find any at the local bakery, and are forced to knead the dough and bake it yourself from scratch. 😁
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
74 messages
joined Jan 2018
#8089 ·
brightheron64 said:If my memory serves me right, they've basically been draining our own Department of Energy reserves.

image

President Biden’s Dangerous Use Of The Strategic Petroleum Reserve
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl...h=5e0be8eb4047

Joe was banking on the idea that the Prince would just step in and refill everything, but apparently, things have gotten a little more complicated than he anticipated...
Whether domestic production can actually bridge that gap remains to be seen, though honestly, I haven't the slightest clue myself...

So, I was just sitting here thinking—is it oil or gasoline we’re actually talking about? There's such a massive difference, right? But anyway, which country is actually pulling the most oil out of the ground globally? If you want the real answer, you've gotta go ahead and Google the top three leaders. It's wild how much stuff is being pumped out there!

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brightheron64 said:If my memory serves me right, they've basically been draining our own Department of Energy reserves.

image

President Biden’s Dangerous Use Of The Strategic Petroleum Reserve
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl...h=5e0be8eb4047

Joe was banking on the idea that the Prince would just step in and refill everything, but apparently, things have gotten a little more complicated than he anticipated...
Whether domestic production can actually bridge that gap remains to be seen, though honestly, I haven't the slightest clue myself...

The Prince sees a recession coming, so he’s slashing production. It’s wild, especially since US shale is basically at its peak right now. I mean, look back—it was the Americans and that whole shale oil boom that pushed oil down to $30, and then they got into those massive fights with Russia, which ended up sending the barrel price into the negatives. Just crazy how fast things flip.
brightheron64 said:If my memory serves me right, they've basically been draining our own Department of Energy reserves.

image

President Biden’s Dangerous Use Of The Strategic Petroleum Reserve
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbl...h=5e0be8eb4047

Joe was banking on the idea that the Prince would just step in and refill everything, but apparently, things have gotten a little more complicated than he anticipated...
Whether domestic production can actually bridge that gap remains to be seen, though honestly, I haven't the slightest clue myself...

If I remember correctly, Americans are pulling "easy oil" out of the ground through fracking—which is pretty wild when you think about it—so we basically have enough refinery capacity to be totally self-sufficient. But man, if the Republicans take over... things are going to get messy. Prince The next President is going to be handing over a massive favor to Pemper—it’s basically a done deal. And honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if Putin signs off on an agreement sooner than anyone expects. Everything is moving way faster than people realize! 🥱
Amanda Allen4 said:It can, sure—but there's a catch: you're looking at higher prices for refined products because production costs here in the USA are significantly higher than they are in Saudi Arabia. Plus, this isn't an overnight fix; it takes time.

It’s exactly like when you run out of bread, can't find any at the local bakery, and are forced to knead the dough and bake it yourself from scratch. 😁

Before inflation really kicked in, the breakeven point for shale oil was sitting around $60—but by January, that number dropped down to $40. And those guys over in Riyadh? They’ve got it down to a measly $21. Crazy, right?

I mean, figuratively speaking... the US has its own set of issues too. Natural gas prices are absolutely wild right now—it feels like every time I turn around, the utility bill is creeping up even more. Honestly, it’s getting to the point where you have to really watch the thermostat just to stay sane. It's one of those things that everyone talks about when they mention inflation, but nobody seems to actually fix the root of it. Just constant fluctuations! Look, if you're aiming for a $60 breakeven, you’ve gotta embrace that whole capitalist mindset—I mean, people aren't out here working for $600 like they do at those low-rent places!
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
222 messages
joined Dec 2012
#8090 ·
European gas prices have finally dipped below $100 per MWh
https://finbold.com/europes-natural-...nce-june-2022/
I wonder what Russia is going to do now with their stinking gas supplies.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
604 messages
joined Sep 2014
#8091 ·
wearytrucker22 said:European gas prices have finally dipped below $100 per MWh
https://finbold.com/europes-natural-...nce-june-2022/
I wonder what Russia is going to do now with their stinking gas supplies.

How do you not know? They'll just sell it to China and India through some magic pipeline.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#8092 ·
Amanda Allen4 said:It can, sure—but there's a catch: you're looking at higher prices for refined products because production costs here in the USA are significantly higher than they are in Saudi Arabia. Plus, this isn't an overnight fix; it takes time.

It’s exactly like when you run out of bread, can't find any at the local bakery, and are forced to knead the dough and bake it yourself from scratch. 😁

Production costs in the USA are roughly on par with Russia, but even then, they're still nowhere near as high as the actual price of oil.
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hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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joined Feb 2022
#8093 ·
wearytrucker22 said:European gas prices have finally dipped below $100 per MWh
https://finbold.com/europes-natural-...nce-june-2022/
I wonder what Russia is going to do now with their stinking gas supplies.

It’s kind of funny when you look back at some of the folks on this forum at the start of the summer, claiming the European Union was headed for an economic apocalypse by autumn. Well, here we are, deep into fall, and honestly? Nothing much has actually changed... despite all those massive walls of text people wrote about how the West was doomed to freeze in the dark and face total collapse. It turns out things aren't quite as dramatic as the doom-posters made them out to be.
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
156 messages
joined Mar 2020
#8094 ·
We’re heading toward the biggest hit yet, slowly but surely.

At an EU summit, Kaja Kallas said, “The European Union has $300 billion in frozen Russian assets just sitting there, and it's high time they decide how to use them to help Ukraine.” She also mentioned the need for a special court to handle war crimes and basically called Russian actions the very definition of terrorism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...00_billion_in/
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
222 messages
joined Dec 2012
#8095 ·
Spot prices for natural gas have tumbled down to the €23–€33 MWh range.

https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/spot

Even the futures—looking at November and December—are sitting under €100 MWh.
But honestly? Liquidity is dead. There’s practically no one buying right now.

https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/futures
I mean, who is going to buy that stinking gas from the Russian trolls now?
crimsongardener17 crimsongardener17 Member
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joined Jul 2012
#8096 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Spot prices for natural gas have tumbled down to the €23–€33 MWh range.

https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/spot

Even the futures—looking at November and December—are sitting under €100 MWh.
But honestly? Liquidity is dead. There’s practically no one buying right now.

https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/futures
I mean, who is going to buy that stinking gas from the Russian trolls now?

If this unseasonable warmth sticks around for another month or two, which looks increasingly likely, we probably won't see any significant spikes in gas prices throughout the entire winter...🎉
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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joined Aug 2019
#8097 ·
gentlestag15 said:Production costs in the USA are roughly on par with Russia, but even then, they're still nowhere near as high as the actual price of oil.
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Keep in mind that break-even points are calculated at the corporate level. For instance, ExxonMobil’s break-even might be relatively low, but for the Saudi Arabian national budget, it's significantly higher. That goes for any country where the entire economy is basically riding on energy exports.
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
258 messages
joined Dec 2007
#8098 ·
crimsongardener17 said:If this unseasonable warmth sticks around for another month or two, which looks increasingly likely, we probably won't see any significant spikes in gas prices throughout the entire winter...🎉

And let’s be honest—plenty of people are just going to tighten their belts, crank the heat down to a minimum, and try to squeeze every last cent out of their fuel budget.
Chloe Jones3 Chloe Jones3 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2022
#8099 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Spot prices for natural gas have tumbled down to the €23–€33 MWh range.

https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/spot

Even the futures—looking at November and December—are sitting under €100 MWh.
But honestly? Liquidity is dead. There’s practically no one buying right now.

https://www.eex.com/en/market-data/natural-gas/futures
I mean, who is going to buy that stinking gas from the Russian trolls now?

Prices spiked because of market volatility, setting up new supply lines, and mostly just pure speculation and panic over shortages. A lot of people sat on their hands, waiting for prices to climb even higher. Now that most folks have secured what they need, storage is full, the fall is looking mild, and things are shifting. Once surpluses start building up, those prices are going to tank. Those speculators will dump everything just to free up capacity and avoid being caught empty-handed. At the end of the day, Putin's plan failed here, just like it did everywhere else.
Michael Davis9 Michael Davis9 Active Member
64 messages
joined Aug 2012
#8100 ·
Chloe Jones3 said:Prices spiked because of market volatility, setting up new supply lines, and mostly just pure speculation and panic over shortages. A lot of people sat on their hands, waiting for prices to climb even higher. Now that most folks have secured what they need, storage is full, the fall is looking mild, and things are shifting. Once surpluses start building up, those prices are going to tank. Those speculators will dump everything just to free up capacity and avoid being caught empty-handed. At the end of the day, Putin's plan failed here, just like it did everywhere else.

If you ask me, a free market just keeps humming along regardless. Both big corporations and individual consumers have already baked these high energy costs into our budgets, and we've been adjusting our behavior accordingly for quite some time now.

The only way Putin can actually hurt Europe at this stage is if he pivots toward large-scale terrorism targeting non-Russian energy corridors.

I'm talking about attacks on oil and gas tankers, hits on storage facilities (which are currently sitting at over 90% capacity), or strikes against critical energy infrastructure and power plants of all kinds.

I truly hope that Europe and the West are keeping every single link in the energy supply chain under tight military and police surveillance...

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