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hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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joined Nov 2023
#8121 ·
Dennis Bailey5 said:Europe filled up its storage tanks and American pockets, while the US finally saw its century-old dream realized by pushing Russia out of Europe. We’re all going to pay the price for this...

We really need to dig into who’s actually behind that claim and where they’re getting their funding from.

A "century-old dream," huh? Give me a break. Russia was cut off from Europe by the Iron Curtain for half of that entire century while everyone was busy dreaming that little dream.

And let's get one thing straight: the US isn't the only one selling gas. Not even close.

The reality is that the US acts as a shield protecting us from Russia, which is exactly why it becomes such an easy target for this kind of mindless propaganda.

The US provides that security regardless of whether you're buying your gas from Qatar, Norway, or Algeria, for instance.

For the US, the profit margins on gas are a tiny, insignificant fraction of the GDP—it's hardly worth getting dragged into these kinds of messes. It's not about the money for Americans; it's just Russian propaganda trying to frame it as if the US is fighting them over gas profits. For the Russians, this stuff represents a third of their GDP, so it's huge for them, but for Americans, it's pocket change. What matters to the US is making sure Russia doesn't get access to the cash that fuels their military and their Cold War-style operations against the West.

By cutting Europe off from Russia, those guys lost a guaranteed stream of income. Their whole "dream" of using energy, corruption, and bribing politicians to slowly simmer away European stability has fallen apart. Europe finally realized what was happening and jumped out of the pot before they got burned.
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
114 messages
joined Oct 2009
#8122 ·
hiddeneagle98 said:We really need to dig into who’s actually behind that claim and where they’re getting their funding from.

A "century-old dream," huh? Give me a break. Russia was cut off from Europe by the Iron Curtain for half of that entire century while everyone was busy dreaming that little dream.

And let's get one thing straight: the US isn't the only one selling gas. Not even close.

The reality is that the US acts as a shield protecting us from Russia, which is exactly why it becomes such an easy target for this kind of mindless propaganda.

The US provides that security regardless of whether you're buying your gas from Qatar, Norway, or Algeria, for instance.

For the US, the profit margins on gas are a tiny, insignificant fraction of the GDP—it's hardly worth getting dragged into these kinds of messes. It's not about the money for Americans; it's just Russian propaganda trying to frame it as if the US is fighting them over gas profits. For the Russians, this stuff represents a third of their GDP, so it's huge for them, but for Americans, it's pocket change. What matters to the US is making sure Russia doesn't get access to the cash that fuels their military and their Cold War-style operations against the West.

By cutting Europe off from Russia, those guys lost a guaranteed stream of income. Their whole "dream" of using energy, corruption, and bribing politicians to slowly simmer away European stability has fallen apart. Europe finally realized what was happening and jumped out of the pot before they got burned.

Zelensky, with a name that fits the situation perfectly, was the first frog to jump out, and it happened quite unexpectedly 😁👍😍 life writes prices...
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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joined May 2024
#8123 ·
hiddeneagle98 said:We really need to dig into who’s actually behind that claim and where they’re getting their funding from.

A "century-old dream," huh? Give me a break. Russia was cut off from Europe by the Iron Curtain for half of that entire century while everyone was busy dreaming that little dream.

And let's get one thing straight: the US isn't the only one selling gas. Not even close.

The reality is that the US acts as a shield protecting us from Russia, which is exactly why it becomes such an easy target for this kind of mindless propaganda.

The US provides that security regardless of whether you're buying your gas from Qatar, Norway, or Algeria, for instance.

For the US, the profit margins on gas are a tiny, insignificant fraction of the GDP—it's hardly worth getting dragged into these kinds of messes. It's not about the money for Americans; it's just Russian propaganda trying to frame it as if the US is fighting them over gas profits. For the Russians, this stuff represents a third of their GDP, so it's huge for them, but for Americans, it's pocket change. What matters to the US is making sure Russia doesn't get access to the cash that fuels their military and their Cold War-style operations against the West.

By cutting Europe off from Russia, those guys lost a guaranteed stream of income. Their whole "dream" of using energy, corruption, and bribing politicians to slowly simmer away European stability has fallen apart. Europe finally realized what was happening and jumped out of the pot before they got burned.

So, you click the link, follow the footnote, and where does it lead you? It leads straight to a tweet from Aaron Mateo—that piece of Putin-affiliated trash and an apologist for the world's most heinous criminals and dictators, a subject I have already spent far too much time dissecting over the last two years regarding the Syrian conflict. Does anyone take this individual seriously, or is it just the absolute #####, including the author of this very text?

Mateo cites a statement by Blinken, which, by the way, he has conveniently stripped of all context; for in the actual statement, Blinken argues that this represents a massive opportunity to finally break free from Russian energy once and for all, thereby stripping Putin of his ability to weaponize energy to further his imperialist agenda, while noting that while strategic opportunities will emerge in the coming years, we must do everything in our power to ensure that ordinary citizens across the globe aren't the ones left footing the bill for this transition. In short, the sentiment is the polar opposite of what this text claims the statement implies.

Is it really so difficult to realize that Mateo is notorious for fabricating and peddling the most idiotic conspiracy theories imaginable? Any journalist worth their salt should see through him immediately, yet apparently, there is a distinct lack of serious journalists left in our midst.
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
222 messages
joined Dec 2012
#8124 ·
German gas storage facilities are sitting at 99.19% capacity, according to the latest preliminary data released last night by the European gas storage operator

And without Nord Stream or the pipeline... what on earth are those poor Russians going to do with all that gas?
Jesse Hughes6 Jesse Hughes6 Active Member
76 messages
joined May 2023
#8125 ·
Just burn it all down with torches. Same as we always have.
Thomas Perez5 Thomas Perez5 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2022
#8126 ·
Storage facilities aren't a substitute for established pipeline supply routes. By design, storage is meant to smooth out peak demand periods. If we hit a brutal winter, those reserves could be drained in a month. While storage can provide high hourly volumes initially, that delivery rate drops off fast once you've tapped into about a third of the nominal capacity.
Michael Davis9 Michael Davis9 Active Member
64 messages
joined Aug 2012
#8127 ·
There is absolutely no way the Germans are going to stop importing gas anytime soon; if anything, things are just ramping up, especially since those new floating LNG terminals aren't even scheduled to go online until early 2023...
Joshua Myers432 Joshua Myers432 Regular
285 messages
joined Feb 2011
#8128 ·
wearytrucker22 said:German gas storage facilities are sitting at 99.19% capacity, according to the latest preliminary data released last night by the European gas storage operator

And without Nord Stream or the pipeline... what on earth are those poor Russians going to do with all that gas?

Based on my own recent checks, the fuel tank in my Chevy is sitting at 99.6%. Honestly, I couldn't care less about gas prices or whether the pumps will actually have fuel available right now.🎉 🤣
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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joined Jun 2024
#8129 ·
Joshua Myers432 said:Based on my own recent checks, the fuel tank in my Chevy is sitting at 99.6%. Honestly, I couldn't care less about gas prices or whether the pumps will actually have fuel available right now.🎉 🤣

There'll be fuel available, just probably won't be Russian.
Joshua Myers432 Joshua Myers432 Regular
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#8130 ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:There'll be fuel available, just probably won't be Russian.

It’s a real concern for me. I filled my tank to the brim, much like how those Germans used to fill their gas tanks. 🍿
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
222 messages
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#8131 ·
Joshua Myers432 said:It’s a real concern for me. I filled my tank to the brim, much like how those Germans used to fill their gas tanks. 🍿

Germany has about 23.3 billion cubic meters (bcm) in underground storage capacity,
but they burn through roughly 95 billion cubic meters of imported gas annually—though they’ve managed to cut that by 20% down to 75 billion cubic meters lately. About 50 billion comes from the Benelux region and Norway, plus another 25 billion via ExxonMobil.
So where are the Russians? They're gone. And where are our local Russophiles now? How exactly do they plan on surviving this?

NEW YORK CITY, Oct 24 (Associated Press) - Germany, the largest economy in Europe and a historical heavy lifter when it comes to importing Russian gas, is scrambling to lock down alternative supplies now that flows from Russia have cratered following the invasion of Ukraine. Here is the breakdown of what Germany is doing:

WHERE ARE THE REPLACEMENTS COMING FROM?
Germany is pulling significantly more gas from Benelux, Norway, and France.

According to data from the EIA, Germany’s imports from Norway jumped to 37.6% in September, compared to just 19.2% during the same month last year. Meanwhile, shipments from the Netherlands climbed to 29.6% of total imports, up from 13.7%.

NEW YORK CITY, Oct 24 (Associated Press) - Germany, the largest economy in Europe and a historical heavy lifter when it comes to importing Russian gas, is scrambling to lock down alternative supplies now that flows from Russia have cratered following the invasion of Ukraine. Here is the breakdown of what Germany is doing:

WHERE ARE THE REPLACEMENTS COMING FROM?
Germany is pulling significantly more gas from Benelux, Norway, and France.

According to data from the EIA, Germany’s imports from Norway jumped to 37.6% in September, compared to just 19.2% during the same month last year. Meanwhile, shipments from the Netherlands climbed to 29.6% of total imports, up from 13.7%.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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joined Feb 2022
#8132 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Germany has about 23.3 billion cubic meters (bcm) in underground storage capacity,
but they burn through roughly 95 billion cubic meters of imported gas annually—though they’ve managed to cut that by 20% down to 75 billion cubic meters lately. About 50 billion comes from the Benelux region and Norway, plus another 25 billion via ExxonMobil.
So where are the Russians? They're gone. And where are our local Russophiles now? How exactly do they plan on surviving this?

NEW YORK CITY, Oct 24 (Associated Press) - Germany, the largest economy in Europe and a historical heavy lifter when it comes to importing Russian gas, is scrambling to lock down alternative supplies now that flows from Russia have cratered following the invasion of Ukraine. Here is the breakdown of what Germany is doing:

WHERE ARE THE REPLACEMENTS COMING FROM?
Germany is pulling significantly more gas from Benelux, Norway, and France.

According to data from the EIA, Germany’s imports from Norway jumped to 37.6% in September, compared to just 19.2% during the same month last year. Meanwhile, shipments from the Netherlands climbed to 29.6% of total imports, up from 13.7%.

NEW YORK CITY, Oct 24 (Associated Press) - Germany, the largest economy in Europe and a historical heavy lifter when it comes to importing Russian gas, is scrambling to lock down alternative supplies now that flows from Russia have cratered following the invasion of Ukraine. Here is the breakdown of what Germany is doing:

WHERE ARE THE REPLACEMENTS COMING FROM?
Germany is pulling significantly more gas from Benelux, Norway, and France.

According to data from the EIA, Germany’s imports from Norway jumped to 37.6% in September, compared to just 19.2% during the same month last year. Meanwhile, shipments from the Netherlands climbed to 29.6% of total imports, up from 13.7%.


Even Mother Nature isn't a fan of Vladimir Putin or the Russians, since she's keeping Europe nice and warm and dry this fall. 😬
Joshua Myers432 Joshua Myers432 Regular
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joined Feb 2011
#8133 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Germany has about 23.3 billion cubic meters (bcm) in underground storage capacity,
but they burn through roughly 95 billion cubic meters of imported gas annually—though they’ve managed to cut that by 20% down to 75 billion cubic meters lately. About 50 billion comes from the Benelux region and Norway, plus another 25 billion via ExxonMobil.
So where are the Russians? They're gone. And where are our local Russophiles now? How exactly do they plan on surviving this?

NEW YORK CITY, Oct 24 (Associated Press) - Germany, the largest economy in Europe and a historical heavy lifter when it comes to importing Russian gas, is scrambling to lock down alternative supplies now that flows from Russia have cratered following the invasion of Ukraine. Here is the breakdown of what Germany is doing:

WHERE ARE THE REPLACEMENTS COMING FROM?
Germany is pulling significantly more gas from Benelux, Norway, and France.

According to data from the EIA, Germany’s imports from Norway jumped to 37.6% in September, compared to just 19.2% during the same month last year. Meanwhile, shipments from the Netherlands climbed to 29.6% of total imports, up from 13.7%.

NEW YORK CITY, Oct 24 (Associated Press) - Germany, the largest economy in Europe and a historical heavy lifter when it comes to importing Russian gas, is scrambling to lock down alternative supplies now that flows from Russia have cratered following the invasion of Ukraine. Here is the breakdown of what Germany is doing:

WHERE ARE THE REPLACEMENTS COMING FROM?
Germany is pulling significantly more gas from Benelux, Norway, and France.

According to data from the EIA, Germany’s imports from Norway jumped to 37.6% in September, compared to just 19.2% during the same month last year. Meanwhile, shipments from the Netherlands climbed to 29.6% of total imports, up from 13.7%.

I’d say they’re going to run short on gas, but honestly, both the Russophobes and the Russophiles are going to feel the squeeze. They can just hug each other; maybe that'll keep them warm. Personally, I’m fine. Down in South Florida, we've got solar. 😉 ☕ Let their industry go bust; it’s too much of a headache anyway. Every summer it’s unbearable—you can’t even enjoy a swim in peace. Every beach is packed, paved over with concrete, trees chopped down, the whole environment trashed. Everything just reeks of cheap pizza slices and old fryer oil.
Jesse Hughes6 Jesse Hughes6 Active Member
76 messages
joined May 2023
#8134 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Even Mother Nature isn't a fan of Vladimir Putin or the Russians, since she's keeping Europe nice and warm and dry this fall. 😬

And it’s all being carried on the back of poor little Putko.
Amanda Flores88 Amanda Flores88 Active Member
89 messages
joined May 2023
#8135 ·
Joshua Myers432 said:I’d say they’re going to run short on gas, but honestly, both the Russophobes and the Russophiles are going to feel the squeeze. They can just hug each other; maybe that'll keep them warm. Personally, I’m fine. Down in South Florida, we've got solar. 😉 ☕ Let their industry go bust; it’s too much of a headache anyway. Every summer it’s unbearable—you can’t even enjoy a swim in peace. Every beach is packed, paved over with concrete, trees chopped down, the whole environment trashed. Everything just reeks of cheap pizza slices and old fryer oil.

We really need to figure out how to stop being so dependent on tourism, too.

Same goes for these guys—so what if they ship stuff to China? Let them deal with the pollution over there:

BASF to downsize ‘permanently’ in Europe

World’s biggest chemicals company says high energy costs make region increasingly uncompetitive
feralhawk45 feralhawk45 Active Member
99 messages
joined Jul 2022
#8136 ·
All those endless calculations and energy strategies mean nothing if you don't factor in the "COP26" variable. You can't just treat ecology as something separate from economics and politics. It’s all one mess.
Nathan Evans78 Nathan Evans78 Regular
283 messages
joined Aug 2019
#8137 ·
Wikipedia
BRENT CRUDE • 98.62

And we aren't even halfway through May yet. 🤣
Morgan Wright5 Morgan Wright5 Active Member
79 messages
joined Mar 2022
#8138 ·
Joshua Myers432 said:I’d say they’re going to run short on gas, but honestly, both the Russophobes and the Russophiles are going to feel the squeeze. They can just hug each other; maybe that'll keep them warm. Personally, I’m fine. Down in South Florida, we've got solar. 😉 ☕ Let their industry go bust; it’s too much of a headache anyway. Every summer it’s unbearable—you can’t even enjoy a swim in peace. Every beach is packed, paved over with concrete, trees chopped down, the whole environment trashed. Everything just reeks of cheap pizza slices and old fryer oil.

It wasn't some outside force that paved over the coast, cut down the trees, and ruined the environment until everything reeks of pizza crusts and stale oil; we did that to ourselves.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2009
#8139 ·
With car production tanking in Russia—which means all those Japanese and European models built there are basically gone due to sanctions—it looks like China is swooping in to take over Central Asian markets:
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-N...to-Market.html

Ford sales in Kazakhstan have plummeted by 55%.

The Chinese aren't exactly letting this historical opening pass them by when it comes to grabbing new territory.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#8140 ·
So, how do I get rid of this stupid TapaTalk spam signature

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