Schizophrenia - General Discussion

Rebecca James3 said:Noah Garcia4, there are actually a few different types of schizophrenia (specifically regarding those voices you can't make sense of)

Paranoid Schizophrenia
- The main thing with this type—the defining feature—is the presence of blatant delusions. Auditory hallucinations happen too, though maybe less frequently. Interestingly, cognitive functions and emotions usually stay relatively intact here. You’ll also see symptoms like anxiety, anger, being super guarded, and just being argumentative.

Premorbid Personality
(That's basically who they were before the illness kicked in) It’s often pretty predictable: we're talking about people who are emotionally cold, perpetually dissatisfied, resentful toward others, sarcastic, and confrontational.

Hebephrenic Schizophrenia
- This is essentially the disorganized type. Key markers are bizarre or silly behavior, totally incoherent speech, and either emotional flatness or showing completely inappropriate emotions. It usually hits during puberty or early adolescence—which is where the name comes from (hebeos meaning boy, phrenos meaning mind). The prognosis is usually garbage because it progresses fast, leading to rapid disintegration and personality breakdown.

Catatonic Schizophrenia
- The big indicators here are intense psychomotor disturbances. We're talking motor immobility (catatonic stupor) or extreme hyperactivity, plus heavy negativity, mutism, weird voluntary movements, echolalia, and echopraxia. The course of the illness is typically intermittent—lots of good remissions followed by relapses—so the prognosis is actually relatively decent.

Post-schizophrenic Depression
- This is a depressive episode that can drag on quite a while. It’s basically a continuation of the illness that happens once the actual schizophrenic symptoms have weakened or vanished.

Residual Schizophrenia
- This is the state where the overt psychotic, productive, or disorganized symptoms—like the delusions, hallucinations, rambling speech, or messy behavior—are gone, provided they've already had at least one full episode of schizophrenia.

Schizophreniform Disorder
- This disorder sits right in the middle between brief psychotic disorder (where symptoms last at least a day but less than a month) and schizophrenia (which requires symptoms to persist for at least 6 months for a diagnosis).

But honestly? I have no clue which one my mom has.

F20 Schizophrenia
- F20.0 Paranoid schizophrenia
- F20.1 Hebephrenic schizophrenia
- F20.2 Catatonic schizophrenia
- F20.3 Undifferentiated schizophrenia
- F20.4 Postschizophrenic depression
- F20.5 Residual schizophrenia
- F20.6 Simple schizophrenia
- F20.8 Other schizophrenia
- F20.9 Unspecified schizophrenia

here you go ☕

edit: looks like you decided to add an edit too

I honestly can't say for sure, since I’ve been diagnosed with F25 Schizoaffective disorder 😉🤣😂

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder

haha... check the previous page, my last post—I already listed all those acronyms you're obsessing over... clearly I learned absolutely "nothing" in high school, apparently there are way more variations than I ever thought possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICD-10_...ural_disorders

There’s plenty to go around if you’ve got the patience to look,

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICD_10) ☕

I’ve got an F-16 diagnosis on my chart, but honestly? I’m pretty sure I’m dealing with post-schizophrenic depression right about now.

Over the course of three days, I’ve seen changes made to the F-16.0, F-16.1, and F-16.2 versions. ☕

David Vaughn75 said:I’ve got an F-16 diagnosis on my chart, but honestly? I’m pretty sure I’m dealing with post-schizophrenic depression right about now.

That’s entirely plausible; I’ve dealt with that particular brand of chaos myself once before.

David Vaughn75 said:I’ve got an F-16 diagnosis on my chart, but honestly? I’m pretty sure I’m dealing with post-schizophrenic depression right about now.

I can certainly relate to that feeling. When my worst psychotic episode hit, I was dealing with an F-16 diagnosis, and during my last stay at the hospital about two years ago, it had progressed to F20.4.

p.s. I’m also sitting here wondering why on earth Latiosa ended up getting banned.🤷

I’m facing a different kind of struggle regarding this condition. I’ve made so many foolish mistakes, gone overboard so many times, and hurt or offended so many people—not to mention how often I’ve lashed out with incredibly reckless things to say—that I don't think I could ever truly make amends or fix my reputation in this lifetime. It’s just an inescapable reality. For a long time, I’ve tried to be considerate, to remain as calm as possible, and to be completely transparent about what I’m going through. But the truth is, most people simply don't have the stomach to deal with those volatile phases. So now, where does that leave my social life? I find I have no desire to be around them, and frankly, they have no desire to be around me. It is what it is. I think you all understand what I mean. 😉☕

Noah Garcia4 said:I’m facing a different kind of struggle regarding this condition. I’ve made so many foolish mistakes, gone overboard so many times, and hurt or offended so many people—not to mention how often I’ve lashed out with incredibly reckless things to say—that I don't think I could ever truly make amends or fix my reputation in this lifetime. It’s just an inescapable reality. For a long time, I’ve tried to be considerate, to remain as calm as possible, and to be completely transparent about what I’m going through. But the truth is, most people simply don't have the stomach to deal with those volatile phases. So now, where does that leave my social life? I find I have no desire to be around them, and frankly, they have no desire to be around me. It is what it is. I think you all understand what I mean. 😉☕

It’s the same story over here—honestly, it's a recurring theme. I look back at the wreckage left behind during my own psychotic episodes, and man... I can't even begin to count how much absolute garbage I managed to screw up. It's a heavy realization to carry.
In the beginning, I really tried to fix everything—to mend every single crack in the foundation—but it was all for nothing. Maybe I managed to salvage about 20% of the wreckage, if I'm being honest. It weighed on me heavily back then... it still haunts me occasionally, I suppose, though the sting isn't quite as sharp as it used to be. The truth is, I lead a rather solitary existence these days—a bit of a loner, if you want to call it that—but what choice do I really have? I can't exactly walk up to the first person I meet on the street, grab them by the hand, and insist, "Look, let's be friends, I'm actually a decent enough person." Besides—and this is the part that really sticks in my craw—who’s to say that the other person is actually okay themselves?🤷

Larry Lewis said:It’s the same story over here—honestly, it's a recurring theme. I look back at the wreckage left behind during my own psychotic episodes, and man... I can't even begin to count how much absolute garbage I managed to screw up. It's a heavy realization to carry.
In the beginning, I really tried to fix everything—to mend every single crack in the foundation—but it was all for nothing. Maybe I managed to salvage about 20% of the wreckage, if I'm being honest. It weighed on me heavily back then... it still haunts me occasionally, I suppose, though the sting isn't quite as sharp as it used to be. The truth is, I lead a rather solitary existence these days—a bit of a loner, if you want to call it that—but what choice do I really have? I can't exactly walk up to the first person I meet on the street, grab them by the hand, and insist, "Look, let's be friends, I'm actually a decent enough person." Besides—and this is the part that really sticks in my craw—who’s to say that the other person is actually okay themselves?🤷

I’m right there with you. Honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around why I ever convinced myself that I could actually fix things. It felt like the damage was already done the moment I first ended up in a sanctuary for madness.
Oh, please. I spent roughly ten years grinding away at this, so don't act like it was all for nothing. It’s actually quite nice that we’re finally joining forces now, even if every single time I make an appearance, the room suddenly goes dead silent as if everyone is collectively holding their breath to see if I'm still sane. 😬 Back when I was on those specific pills, everything looked like I was wearing rose-colored glasses, but that particular side effect has since vanished.
It really comes down to how much you value a comfortable lie versus an uncomfortable truth. You’ve got the blue pill option—it’s the path of least resistance, a cozy little bubble where everything makes sense and nobody ever challenges your worldview. It’s easy, it’s predictable, and frankly, it’s quite soothing if you don't feel like doing the heavy lifting required to actually perceive reality. Then there’s the red pill, which is essentially choosing to walk straight into the wind. It’s messy, it’s often deeply unsettling, and once you take it, you can't exactly un-see the mechanics behind the curtain. Personally, I find the choice less about "truth" and more about whether you have the stomach for the fallout that comes with knowing too much.
I’ve tried those little blue pills meant to help with memory, but honestly, they just don't cut it anymore. There are moments when I feel this nagging urge to keep taking them, yet the reality is that the effect has completely worn off. 🤣☕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ1_IbFFbzA 🙂

Noah Garcia4 said:I’m right there with you. Honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around why I ever convinced myself that I could actually fix things. It felt like the damage was already done the moment I first ended up in a sanctuary for madness.
Oh, please. I spent roughly ten years grinding away at this, so don't act like it was all for nothing. It’s actually quite nice that we’re finally joining forces now, even if every single time I make an appearance, the room suddenly goes dead silent as if everyone is collectively holding their breath to see if I'm still sane. 😬 Back when I was on those specific pills, everything looked like I was wearing rose-colored glasses, but that particular side effect has since vanished.
It really comes down to how much you value a comfortable lie versus an uncomfortable truth. You’ve got the blue pill option—it’s the path of least resistance, a cozy little bubble where everything makes sense and nobody ever challenges your worldview. It’s easy, it’s predictable, and frankly, it’s quite soothing if you don't feel like doing the heavy lifting required to actually perceive reality. Then there’s the red pill, which is essentially choosing to walk straight into the wind. It’s messy, it’s often deeply unsettling, and once you take it, you can't exactly un-see the mechanics behind the curtain. Personally, I find the choice less about "truth" and more about whether you have the stomach for the fallout that comes with knowing too much.
I’ve tried those little blue pills meant to help with memory, but honestly, they just don't cut it anymore. There are moments when I feel this nagging urge to keep taking them, yet the reality is that the effect has completely worn off. 🤣☕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ1_IbFFbzA 🙂

Just go ahead and pull one more massive, ridiculous stunt—just to spite them and show them exactly what you think of their little games...
😂

Larry Lewis said:Just go ahead and pull one more massive, ridiculous stunt—just to spite them and show them exactly what you think of their little games...
😂

And for heaven's sake, we need to actually prepare for this—gather the Gestapo, map out a strategy, tell ourselves we'll figure it out as we go, but make sure the end result is a GIGA MEGA DISASTER.😍😬 ☕

But how am I supposed to pull off this kind of nonsense without any actual overhead? 🤷
At the end of the day, whether things go completely off the rails or just turn into a total mess doesn't really matter; the bottom line is that you need to be making money.🤣☕

Noah Garcia4 said:But how am I supposed to pull off this kind of nonsense without any actual overhead? 🤷
At the end of the day, whether things go completely off the rails or just turn into a total mess doesn't really matter; the bottom line is that you need to be making money.🤣☕

If only I had $1.75 for every broken neuron and every malfunctioning station rattling around inside my skull... ah, the dreams we chase.🤣

Larry Lewis said:If only I had $1.75 for every broken neuron and every malfunctioning station rattling around inside my skull... ah, the dreams we chase.🤣

Let me take a second to look at this from a more scientific perspective.
The brain of a vertebrate is the most complex organ of its body. In a typical human the cerebral cortex (the largest part) is estimated to contain 15–33 billion neurons,[1] each connected by synapses to several thousand other neurons.

We aren't really talking about "cells" in the brain; we're talking about neurons. So, if you consider that half of them are already gone, you're looking at a massive deficit.
At 20x5, you’re looking at $100 billion 😬. But now, if I actually managed to get $6.75 for every single burned-out neuron—let's say 20x20—we’d be talking about a staggering $400 billion.

Are you out of your mind? What would you even do with that kind of cash? 😕🤷☕

Noah Garcia4 said:Let me take a second to look at this from a more scientific perspective.
The brain of a vertebrate is the most complex organ of its body. In a typical human the cerebral cortex (the largest part) is estimated to contain 15–33 billion neurons,[1] each connected by synapses to several thousand other neurons.

We aren't really talking about "cells" in the brain; we're talking about neurons. So, if you consider that half of them are already gone, you're looking at a massive deficit.
At 20x5, you’re looking at $100 billion 😬. But now, if I actually managed to get $6.75 for every single burned-out neuron—let's say 20x20—we’d be talking about a staggering $400 billion.

Are you out of your mind? What would you even do with that kind of cash? 😕🤷☕

I haven't the slightest clue—probably build some sort of nuclear arsenal and start threatening the USA, since I'm clearly a bit of a lunatic myself.☕

Larry Lewis said:I haven't the slightest clue—probably build some sort of nuclear arsenal and start threatening the USA, since I'm clearly a bit of a lunatic myself.☕

Honestly, it’s a bit of a misconception to assume that the people designing nuclear weapons are some kind of unhinged lunatics. It isn't like they're operating in a sanctuary for madness; it's actually quite the opposite. They are typically highly disciplined, calculated professionals working within incredibly rigid frameworks. 🙄.
Let’s be honest, we’ve drifted quite a bit into this realm of pure fantasy and distorted perceptions lately—it might be time to pull ourselves back to reality. 🤣

Noah Garcia4 said:Honestly, it’s a bit of a misconception to assume that the people designing nuclear weapons are some kind of unhinged lunatics. It isn't like they're operating in a sanctuary for madness; it's actually quite the opposite. They are typically highly disciplined, calculated professionals working within incredibly rigid frameworks. 🙄.
Let’s be honest, we’ve drifted quite a bit into this realm of pure fantasy and distorted perceptions lately—it might be time to pull ourselves back to reality. 🤣

Of course they aren't—they're heroes, rulers, and great leaders, if you believe that sort of thing.

It’s the same old logic—as if it’s the gun that kills a man, rather than the person pulling the trigger.😛

Personally? I’d much rather build a beautiful, sprawling asylum somewhere quiet along the California coast and personally fund the treatment for anyone struggling with their mental health. It would be called "sanctuary for madness," where everyone could just live in peace and contentment despite their struggles.

And naturally, I’d be quite the charming fellow, so I’m sure plenty of lovely ladies would be swooning over me—but don't worry, I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of them.🤣

Larry Lewis said:Of course they aren't—they're heroes, rulers, and great leaders, if you believe that sort of thing.

It’s the same old logic—as if it’s the gun that kills a man, rather than the person pulling the trigger.😛

Personally? I’d much rather build a beautiful, sprawling asylum somewhere quiet along the California coast and personally fund the treatment for anyone struggling with their mental health. It would be called "sanctuary for madness," where everyone could just live in peace and contentment despite their struggles.

And naturally, I’d be quite the charming fellow, so I’m sure plenty of lovely ladies would be swooning over me—but don't worry, I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of them.🤣

I think I’ll pass on the invite; I much prefer the company of sane individuals. 😛
It feels like a bit of an oxymoron, doesn't it? To suggest there could be true happiness or satisfaction while one is actively suffering from illness.😛

Larry Lewis said:Of course they aren't—they're heroes, rulers, and great leaders, if you believe that sort of thing.

It’s the same old logic—as if it’s the gun that kills a man, rather than the person pulling the trigger.😛

Personally? I’d much rather build a beautiful, sprawling asylum somewhere quiet along the California coast and personally fund the treatment for anyone struggling with their mental health. It would be called "sanctuary for madness," where everyone could just live in peace and contentment despite their struggles.

And naturally, I’d be quite the charming fellow, so I’m sure plenty of lovely ladies would be swooning over me—but don't worry, I wouldn't dream of taking advantage of them.🤣

Right. ☕