Sunday shifts?

http://www.verizon.com/news/usa...8/0455006.html

So, back to business as usual.

Turns out America still has a long way to go to catch up with the rest of the world, but maybe this is one way to speed things up...

Finally 👍
I think the Democratic Party is headed straight for the same irrelevance as the Liberal Party if they keep pushing these moronic initiatives—especially ones like this that practically flirt with being unconstitutional.

Thank God, I can finally shop on my one day off. Otherwise, there's really no point in having money during the week because I just don't have the time to spend it.

It honestly baffles me how people who claim they can't afford anything suddenly find the energy to go shopping on a Sunday. They have no problem inconveniencing everyone else who actually wants their Sunday to be a day off, let alone any other day of the week.
I really wonder how these folks manage to squeeze in trips to the bank or the post office during the work week. Apparently, there’s plenty of time for everything except for actual errands, but suddenly Sunday becomes the perfect time for a shopping spree.
Honestly, I have zero patience for anyone who thinks a family outing should consist of wandering through a mall. If you're heading out to buy toys, clothes, or shoes on a Sunday, you're just being irrational. Fine, groceries are one thing, but if you haven't picked up what you need by noon, too bad.
And please, spare me the "they need to make a living" argument. Who exactly are they making a living for? Some billionaire CEO or a corporate tycoon? It's not like it's a small matter; they're just looking for more ways to fund luxury lifestyles, like buying yachts or flying to ski resorts in the middle of summer. Has anyone even bothered to look at the paychecks of these workers to see how little they actually get paid for working holidays and Sundays? Besides, would you personally agree to work on a Sunday for just $667. a month? I don't run a retail chain and I don't work Sundays, but if someone suggested I work a Sunday for $167, I'd tell them to get lost.

Rebecca Martinez24 said:It looks like America still has quite a journey ahead before fully aligning with the European Union, but maybe this could be one way to help us "catch up" a bit faster...

But where is this actually headed? Honestly, if you had asked me back before 2010, I wouldn't have seen any chance of us ever joining the European Union.

Jeremy Flores10 said:Besides, here's a question: would you actually work on Sundays for an extra $667 per month? I’m not in retail and I don't work Sundays, but if someone suggested I pick up a shift on a Sunday just for an extra $167, I'd tell them to shove it.

So, it’s supposedly better for the economy—and for the people—if that option doesn't even exist, right? Great job, 👍
Looks like you've got a bright future in politics or economics, 👍

That is wonderful news; now I can finally run my errands on Sundays. It would be even better if they offered 24-hour service, though—I often find myself craving a bag of Smoki around 11:00 PM when everything is closed.

Jeremy Flores10 said:It’s honestly pathetic how some people have nothing better to do with their cash than spend it on a Sunday. They just love lecturing everyone else about losing their day off, as if they aren't also stealing everyone else's free time during the rest of the week.
I’m genuinely curious how these people find the time to handle their banking, hit up the post office, or pay bills during the work week. Apparently, they can magically conjure up free time for shopping, but suddenly they're too busy for everything else.
Honestly, screw anyone who thinks a family outing should consist of driving to a big-box store. You’re essentially brain-dead if you think Sunday is the prime time to go out hunting for toys, clothes, or shoes. Fine, I get that groceries are a necessity, but if you haven't grabbed what you need by noon, you're already behind.
And please, spare me the "but businesses need to make money" argument. Who exactly is making that money? Some billionaire CEO? It’s not like we’re working to fund their luxury yachts or their mid-winter ski trips to Aspen. Has anyone actually bothered to look at the paychecks of these workers to see how much they actually get compensated for Sundays and holidays? Besides, would any of you actually agree to work on a Sunday for $667. a month? I don’t run a retail chain and I don't work Sundays, but if someone suggested I pick up a shift for $167., I’d tell them to get lost.

This is the truth, unfortunately. Though, I don't really fall into that demographic since I don't have kids running around demanding toys.
The reasons I end up shopping on a Sunday are fundamentally different from those pretenders who drive cars they can't afford just to take their kids on a field trip to Walmart.

banderas said:And that’s supposedly better for the economy and the people—that such an option shouldn't even exist, right? Bravo. 👍
I see you have some serious potential for politics and economics. 👍

Forget talking about a dead economy. I wouldn't even be interested in discussing economic growth if people weren't actually getting paid a decent wage. $167 It’s about one day a week. But they won't budge, because their bosses are too busy lining their own pockets. If we're being so smart about this, just name me one other country in the Western world where massive big-box retailers and supermarket chains stay open on Sundays. In Germany? No. Austria? No. The Netherlands? Not a chance. Even if you look at places like Switzerland or Norway, sure, you might find a gas station or a grocery store open 24/7, but you aren't finding clothing stores, shoe shops, or toy aisles open for business. And their economies haven't collapsed—in fact, they're miles ahead of ours. While we're at it, why shouldn't banks, post offices, pharmacies, courts, or travel agencies operate on Sundays? We all know how long the legal system takes to clear a docket anyway. If people can't find time to shop, they certainly won't have time for those other services either. These industries drive the economy just as much as retail does.

I don't typically work on Sundays, and usually not even Saturdays, yet I find myself clocking overtime every single day without seeing a dime extra for it... No one ever stops to ask if that's actually okay or if I’m even happy about it. It’s not just those folks stuck working on the weekend who are getting the short end of the stick; the entire dynamic between employer and employee in this country is fundamentally broken.

Jeremy Flores10... I honestly think you’re missing the whole point when it comes to freedom of choice.

Some people want to work on Sundays, and some people want to shop on Sundays. It's as simple as that.

Calling someone "crazy" is just your own subjective take, and frankly, it says more about your perspective than anyone else...

Look, I actually agree with you that hitting the mall for a family outing on the weekend isn't exactly the peak of productivity... but I'm not judging anyone's intelligence here. I'm just talking about the right to choose how we spend our time.

Besides, plenty of people can only get things done on the weekends. Who is the church or some politicians to tell us when we can shop or trade?

stuntman said:Jeremy Flores10... I’d say you’re just losing touch with reality because you don't seem to grasp the concept of freedom of choice.

Some people want to work on Sundays, and some people want to shop on Sundays.

Your definition of being "out of it" is purely subjective and really just reflects your own perspective.

While I agree that taking the family on a shopping trip during the weekend isn't exactly the ideal outing... I'm not judging someone's mental state based on that... I'm pointing out a lack of understanding regarding personal liberty.

On the other hand, there are people who can only get things done on Sundays or weekends. Who is the Catholic Church or some politicians to tell anyone when they can shop or trade?

Honestly, I couldn't care less about the Catholic Church or those idiots sitting in Congress messing around. Fine, let whoever wants to work do so. They don't even have to go home after leaving the store; they could just live there. But did anyone actually ask people at a local Metro to see if they would want to work like that? Even if the pay was great, would you want to have zero days off per week? Imagine working every single day of the week, all year round. Even with good money, would you actually agree to live like that? If you were crazy, maybe! And if you have enough time to handle everything else during the week, you can buy a pair of damn pants whenever. Would you work on Sunday? Personally, I wouldn't. So why shouldn't everything be open on Sunday? Just pay the employees and let life function normally, just like any other day.

Jeremy Flores10, this whole mess gets solved through effective inspections, not by slapping together these kinds of idiotic laws. And if you actually think this legislation was designed to protect a worker's right to "one day off a week," then you clearly didn't read the fine print—if you even bothered to read it at all.

Jeremy Flores10 said:So you don't get a single day off during the week? Just imagine working seven days a week, all year round. Even if the paycheck was massive, would you really want to live like that?

You’re legally entitled to at least one day off per week. Otherwise, they're in direct violation of Labor Law. Maybe do a little reading on the subject before you start typing away so recklessly.

I used to work at Magmin, and it was brutal. I was on my feet from dawn until dusk—back before Sunday labor laws were even a thing. Fižulić was the Secretary at the time. In just one year, I clocked 120 hours of overtime, and you want to know what they actually paid me? $0.00. I finally snapped and asked them what kind of sick joke this was, and they had the nerve to tell me everyone with overtime would get compensatory time off. You know how many days off I actually got? Absolutely zero. Zilch. And I was working for $733! Monthly! Honestly, who’s ever even stepped foot in there? The labor inspectors are completely useless; nobody can hold them accountable. Thank God I finished my degree and landed a job in my field because I’m doing great now. That’s why I’m such a fierce advocate against exploitation—I’ve seen firsthand that people will never be paid what they're worth. It’s the same story whether it's Walmart, Target, or Kroger.

goldengull3 said:You're required to have at least one day off per week. Otherwise, you're violating Labor Law. You might want to look into the regulations before you start typing away.

Look, let's not throw legal jargon around like we're experts. Speaking from my own experience, you don't get a full day off every week—maybe every other week if you're lucky. If you even try to complain, they just hand you your severance package and tell you to leave. Do some actual research before lecturing us on the law. Anyone can claim anything on paper.

Jeremy Flores10 said:I used to work at Magmin. From sunrise to sunset. Back when they weren't even making us work Sundays yet. Fižulić was the Secretary at the time. In a single twelve-month stretch, I clocked 120 hours of overtime. And you want to know what the payout looked like?$0.00.I lost my mind and demanded to know what kind of sick way this was, and they had the nerve to tell me everyone with overtime would get compensatory time off. You know how many days off I actually received? Zero. Absolutely nothing. And I was working for $733 per month! Not to mention

That just proves the issue isn't about working on Sundays. The real task is simply ensuring that existing Labor Law is actually enforced—making sure overtime is paid out and that premiums for night shifts, Sundays, and holidays are strictly honored.

Once that happens, that kind of labor becomes an expensive liability for the employer. They’ll start being much more selective about who they schedule on a Sunday.

The second issue lies with the workers themselves. Anywhere else in the West, something like this would trigger a general strike, complete with front-page headlines, TV news reports, and all the media circus orchestrated by marketing agencies hired by the unions. But here, there is no sense of collective identity among employees, no unified front against the employer.

If you had stood up for yourself and been fired, there is no chance all the Magmin stores would have shut down the next day. In other countries, that is exactly how workers handle these situations.

Furthermore, you all could have gathered on a non-working day—say, Labor Day—to demonstrate in front of the department headed by Fižulić. The press would have been tripping over themselves to grab the story; it would have been front-page news. And the Prime Minister would have been forced to call them in for an immediate meeting.

You know what the absolute worst part about working on Sundays is? Everyone else is out living their lives, enjoying trips and parties, while you’re stuck grinding away in some damn convenience store!

Jeremy Flores10 said:You know what the absolute worst part about working on Sundays is? Everyone else is out living their lives—trips, parties, everything. Meanwhile, you’re stuck rotting in some damn convenience store.

I personally didn't see the ocean once during the summer months, despite the fact that I was living in San Diego. I worked in hospitality.

And don't even get me started on the servers, the chefs, and the rest of the crew who can't even spend New Year's Eve with their own families.

At the end of the day, it's quite simple: it's a career choice.

If you aren't prepared for that lifestyle, then don't enter the service industry. It isn't just an isolated incident, either—I know people who specifically pursue hospitality degrees only to realize, far too late, that they actually wanted to spend their summers relaxing.

Exploiting workers is a mess, but the solution is regulation, not bans. We need laws that ensure employers pay overtime or premium rates for weekend shifts... rather than just banning work altogether.

People have the desire and the need to shop on weekends, and retailers have the desire and need to trade then too. We should bridge those two sides and make sure everyone has the right to either shop or sell...

And as for the worker... look, if an employee doesn't want to work the way a private business needs them to, they should consider a career change or start their own business to set their own schedule. I'm not saying exploitation is moral... it's just that I don't go into someone else's house and tell them when to use the restroom or what color carpet to pick. If I'm unhappy that the company I work for operates on Sunday and occasionally expects me to be there, I’ll find a different profession or a different job, just like Ronald Castillo5 says. A private entrepreneur must have the right to set their business hours; nobody should be able to take that away. The law should just guarantee that the worker also gets: two days off per week, or higher pay if they work those specific shifts.

Think about someone carrying a mortgage... would they rather work on a Sunday or lose their job entirely because of a ban on Sunday work?

There has to be a choice. A ban is just removing choice. Bans are usually pushed by people who aren't capable of actually fixing the current situation. It's much easier to just issue a ban than to actually step inside a house and write some house rules...

The law was selective, foolish, and just plain silly...

Take my wife, for example. She works in healthcare... honestly, you all shouldn't get sick on Sundays just so she can have a day off, especially during holidays like New Year's or Christmas.

Once you enter that field, you know what to expect... you might get Wednesday off instead of Sunday, or something like that. In the USA, we have federal holidays, and for medical staff, those don't necessarily mean they get the day off, but they get those extra days to use throughout the year. Sometimes you might miss out on working a holiday, but you still end up getting an extra day off eventually...

Worker = Just Over Brok

JOB stands for Just Over Broke.

Why does everyone in America strive to be their own boss or an entrepreneur? It's so they can decide how and what gets done. If we choose to work for someone else... why complain? We can open our own shop and decide not to work on Sundays if we want... but once we see the competition pulling in a 35% weekly profit specifically on a Sunday... well, then we'll have to calculate how long we'll actually stay in business.