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Support for families dealing with cancer and other serious illnesses (Part II)

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Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#2421 ·
Jack Hill21 said:I need some advice regarding melanoma. My mom had surgery for melanoma on her leg plus lymph nodes about 16 years ago, and everything went fine. She did follow-ups for a few years, and then we all just moved past that whole nightmare. But two weeks ago, she felt a lump on her abdomen, and by the next day, a biopsy already showed melanoma cells. We went through the full diagnostic gauntlet—CT scans, bone scans, lungs, abdomen, tumor markers... eventually, they removed the lump, and yesterday it was sent off to pathology and to a lab in Chicago for analysis. Since Mom spent her entire career as a nurse and knows how to read between the lines, she didn't mince words when asking the oncologist what those scans actually showed. The guy gave her this short, blunt answer: "Nothing." He said the lump is being analyzed, and once that's done, she’ll be transferred to the Mayo Clinic. Everything seemed fine right up until the moment she left the hospital. While waiting for the tissue results, she hands me her discharge papers, and there it is in black and white: multiple lesions on the lungs, some lesions on the kidney, something on a bone... basically, a laundry list of various lesions and changes. 😢 What do we do now? Do we just sit tight for two weeks while waiting for the results? Or should we be pushing for something urgent? Any info would be appreciated...

Those lesions might be melanoma, or they might not.
Until you have the pathology report in hand, you're essentially flying blind.
Right now, those are just spots on an image. They could be anything from inflammation to standard degenerative changes in the bones or kidneys that come with age. Once the official diagnosis lands, then you can actually start questioning the imaging with any real weight behind it.
It’s rare for a doctor to brush something off as "nothing" unless they truly have a reason to believe it. Usually, if they suspect something, they’ll throw the whole terrifying truth right in your face immediately.
Just take it slow and try to stay calm.

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ruggedfox11 ruggedfox11 Active Member
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#2422 ·
We finally got the results from our follow-up CT scan after finishing chemo—though, to be honest, we managed to squeeze it in just ten days later because we were able to jump the queue through a connection:

The report is written completely differently than the last one—it feels a bit superficial, maybe even incomplete. That said, I think the most important takeaway is that everything remains stable and otherwise looks fine. There was a slight increase in the area around the pancreas, but I’m leaning toward—and really hoping—that it’s just an effect of the Decortin, which helped bring things back down previously.
I just hope they don't drag their feet on scheduling the radiation so we can finally get this whole illness under control once and for all.
Susan Ruiz76 Susan Ruiz76 Active Member
51 messages
joined Aug 2012
#2423 ·
A young woman—a single mother raising a sixteen-year-old—underwent breast surgery three years ago. This year alone, she’s had two procedures on her jaw and neck due to carcinoma. She has radiation scheduled for next week in Chicago, because here in Indianapolis, you can't get an appointment anytime soon. She feels absolutely terrible, and I honestly don't know how she's going to manage the train ride. She has no one to help her, and since she's on social assistance, paying someone for a ride isn't an option. I’m reaching out to anyone who might know: is she eligible for medical transport with an escort? Keep in mind, she isn't being admitted for an inpatient stay; she actually had to find her own lodging, which she managed to do thanks to the kindness of a wonderful woman.
Elizabeth Moore4 Elizabeth Moore4 Newcomer
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#2424 ·
I think she might be eligible for medical transport to the hospital, but since her primary care physician filled out that specific form, it’s probably best if she just checks in with them directly to be sure.
Jack Hill21 Jack Hill21 Newcomer
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#2425 ·
Angela Wright said:Lesions aren't necessarily melanoma.
Without pathology reports, you're essentially flying blind.
Right now, we're just looking at lesions that could stem from various inflammations or even degenerative changes in the bones and kidneys that naturally occur with age. Once the biopsy results come back, you'll be able to look at those scans with much more clarity.
Would any competent doctor really risk saying "it's nothing" without solid evidence? More often than not, they'll bluntly throw all their suspicions right in your face.
Just take it slow and stay calm.

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I honestly have no idea why he would tell her that, especially since the discharge summary "graciously" details the suspicions regarding metastases in the lungs, the adrenal glands, and potential issues in the bone... we are waiting on the tissue samples, but most people who have seen the discharge summary tend to remain silent. 😢 I don't know what lies ahead. To be honest, I'm not even sure I want to know, nor how I am supposed to survive this all over again. This is simply unbelievable... we had only just begun to pull ourselves together after my nephew's passing, and here we are again. Thank you, Angela...
ruggedfox11 ruggedfox11 Active Member
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#2426 ·
I am reaching my breaking point
Since last Wednesday, we have been sitting around waiting for some oncologist to actually step up, take charge, and give him a scheduled date for radiation. This whole situation regarding Doli is just infuriating—it’s honestly enough to make you want to throw in the towel and walk away from the whole mess.
Terry Lopez18 Terry Lopez18 Member
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#2427 ·
Susan Ruiz76 said:There is a young woman—a single mother raising a sixteen-year-old—who had breast surgery three years ago, and this year she’s already undergone two procedures on her jaw and neck due to cancer. She has to travel to Chicago next week for radiation because she simply can't get an appointment in Indianapolis anytime soon. She feels absolutely terrible, and I honestly don't know how she's going to manage the train ride. She doesn't have anyone to help her, and since she relies on social assistance, she can't afford to pay someone to drive her. I wanted to ask anyone with experience: does she have any right to medical transport with an escort? Since she isn't being admitted for an inpatient stay and had to find her own lodging—which she managed to do thanks to a wonderful woman she met—does that change things?

Yes, the primary care physician has to file the request for medical transport. When my dad was undergoing radiation in Chicago, we actually had to practically beg and argue with our doctor just to get it approved. And keep in mind, my father had a malignant brain tumor; he couldn't even stand up, let alone handle the stress of traveling. He was completely overwhelmed. But yes, they definitely try to cut corners on these services.
silentbison17 silentbison17 Member
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#2428 ·
My mom had her follow-up today after surgery, and the PhD specialist arrived. From what I’ve read, things look okay.
Her liver panel came back clean, but the bone scan picked up something at the base of the right rib and in the teeth, so they recommended an X-ray of the 11th rib and a skull radiograph from two angles.

The doctor told her it might be nothing, but she needs to get them done before coming back for the next checkup. I’m biting my nails because I wasn't even there—her sister was—and she should have just asked him straight out... I mean, if they saw radiopharmaceutical uptake in those two spots... I don't want to be pessimistic, but still...
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#2429 ·
silentbison17 said:My mom had her follow-up appointment today after surgery. Based on what I’ve read, the PhD specialist's report looks promising.
Her liver panel came back clean, but the bone scan picked up some activity at the end of her right rib and in her teeth. Because of that, they recommended an X-ray of the 11th rib and a craniogram from two different angles.

The doctor told her it might be nothing, but he wants her to get the tests done before coming back for the next check-up. Honestly, I'm kicking myself because I wasn't there—her sister was. I should have just been direct and asked him point-blank... basically, if they saw radiopharmaceutical uptake in those two specific spots, what does that actually mean? I'm trying not to be a pessimist here, but...

It’s all going to be fine.

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silentbison17 silentbison17 Member
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#2430 ·
this piece of crap is still somewhere... they suspect another site at the Mayo Clinic... heading to the oncologist now... the doctor is certain it isn't a metastasis from the eye, he just can't believe it...

I don't even know what I'm hoping for anymore...
Jacob Williams7 Jacob Williams7 Newcomer
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#2431 ·
Angela Wright said:So, did Dad actually finish the biopsy and get the official word back, or is the doctor just playing the guessing game before moving forward?
Also, having two suspicious masses doesn't necessarily mean anything major. If they look sketchy, the best move is just to get them out ASAP—that way, we’re giving Dad the absolute best medical care possible.
If you catch melanoma before it spreads, a quick procedure usually does the trick. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that’s how it plays out for my dad, too. Just remember, until a pathologist runs a full PhD-level analysis on the tissue they remove, everything else is just guesswork and being extra cautious.
No need to get all worked up about it before it even happens.

By the way, just so we're clear—melanoma isn't exactly the same thing as cancer.
Basically, carcinomas come from mutated cells in an organ's lining, whereas melanoma starts in the skin's pigment cells—the melanocytes.
Look, even though we're talking about two different types of cancer here, they aren't the same thing. They behave totally differently as they progress, and the way doctors tackle them with treatment is worlds apart, too.
Check out this piece on how Nexavar might help manage multiple myeloma alongside melanoma. It’s an interesting look at how certain treatments, like Sorafenib from Bayer, are being studied for their potential impact on both conditions. It's definitely worth a read if you're following the latest research on how these therapies interact.

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Had surgery this past Friday, and now we’re stuck waiting about twenty days for the pathology report. Honestly, I don't get why it takes this long. They can't even tell if it's metastasized yet. Plus, they aren't scheduled to operate on the one on my forehead until July. So, there's no way to know if we're dealing with an early stage or if things have already progressed. I'm just praying to God it hasn't...
silentbison17 silentbison17 Member
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#2432 ·
Jacob Williams7 said:He had surgery on Friday, and now we’re stuck waiting about twenty days for the pathology report. Honestly, I don't get why it takes this long. We still don't know if it's metastasized or not. And they aren't even touching the one on his forehead until July. So, there's no way to tell if this is still early stage or if things have progressed. Just praying to God it hasn't...

Fingers crossed. My mom had to wait at least 15 days for hers too, PhD.

The only question is... does the PhD need to confirm if it's a primary or secondary tumor?
Jacob Williams7 Jacob Williams7 Newcomer
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#2433 ·
Alright, the results finally came in:
Diagnosis: Malignant melanoma (superficial spreading type) T1aNxMx
The biopsy took a skin sample measuring 2x0.9x1 cm, featuring a slightly limited, unevenly pigmented lesion about 0.6 cm wide. Histologically, they found clusters and nests of atypical melanocytes sitting in the basal layers of the epidermis and the papillary dermis, but they haven't hit the reticular dermis yet. The melanocytes clearly show signs of what’s called pagetoid spread through several layers of the epidermis. No mitosis was found in the dermal part of the tumor. The maximum thickness of the tumor is 0.34 mm. There's no sign of lymphovascular invasion, microsatellitosis, or regression in the sections examined. At the base of the tumor, there are dense mononuclear infiltrates and pigmentophages, while the surface epidermis remains non-ulcerated. The tumor-infiltrating lymphocytes are dense. The tumor doesn't reach the excision margins marked by the tissue dye—it's 6 mm from the nearest lateral margin and 9 mm from the base. Based on histology and immunohistochemistry (HMB45, melan-A, LCA), this is a superficial spreading melanoma T1aNxMx, Clark II, Breslow
Is there any hope?
Michelle Lewis67 Michelle Lewis67 Newcomer
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#2434 ·
Hey everyone,
I haven't had a chance to catch up on everything here—just don't have the time right now—but does anyone have experience dealing with multiple myeloma?
My dad was diagnosed four months ago. He's finished chemo and is getting ready for a transplant, so I’d love to hear from anyone who has actually been through this.
Thanks in advance for any insight you can share.
stormyfalcon68 stormyfalcon68 Member
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#2435 ·
ruggedfox11 How’s everyone doing?
Did you guys manage to make it in for your radiation sessions yet?
Ashley Robinson3 Ashley Robinson3 Newcomer
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#2436 ·
Hi everyone, I’m reaching out regarding my mother-in-law. Over 10 years ago, she was diagnosed with papillary transitional cell carcinoma of the bladder. Right after the diagnosis, she started BCG therapy, which kept her doing well for years. However, about five or six years ago, there was a recurrence. Since then, she’s dealt with several relapses and surgeries. The last one was about 1.5 years ago, where they had to remove her bladder, ovaries, fallopian tubes, appendix, and uterus—plus she already lost one kidney during a previous procedure. Since then, she’s just been going in for blood and urine checks. Her doctor told us to reach out if any issues popped up, though at 80 years old, things are tricky. For the last month or two, things have taken a turn for the worse. She’s lost her appetite, fallen into a depression, and has been refusing to see the doctor. It got to the point where my husband had to practically force her to go to the ER because she was completely incapacitated. They found a shadow on one of her lungs. They gave her an IV, and after that, she actually perked up a bit and started eating again, but now she’s refusing a bronchoscopy. Being a healthcare worker herself, she’s convinced it’s a metastasis. She insists she’s far too weak for any kind of treatment and doesn't want to exhaust herself further. My husband can't seem to convince her otherwise. Honestly, I somewhat understand where she's coming from; I know things are pretty bad, and I wonder if chemo would just drain what little energy she has left. Is there even a point? But then again, if you don't try, how can you ever know?
I’m not really sure what to ask. Maybe someone has some experience or an opinion? Should we support her decision, or should we keep trying to push her toward the bronchoscopy? My take is that we should respect her wishes. She’s lived a long life, the disease is progressing slowly, and I doubt any aggressive treatment would actually improve her quality of life. I’m trying not to get too tangled up in the middle of it all, though. I’m leaving the heavy negotiating to my husband; I just want to be his support system.
ruggedfox11 ruggedfox11 Active Member
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#2437 ·
stormyfalcon68, we actually took a little trip out of town for a vacation recently. We have radiation scheduled for July 12th, and the CT simulation is set for this Friday. Our oncologist has been mentioning the possibility of intrathecal chemotherapy—injecting it directly into the spinal fluid—and we also met with the neurosurgeon today. He’s actually leaning away from surgery in favor of radiation; his take is that since there aren't signs of micrometastases, and because these two spots are diametrically opposed, an operation would be incredibly invasive and difficult.

Anyway, I’ve put together a list of questions for the oncologist. These are the ones I have so far, but if you think I’ve missed anything crucial or if you have any other helpful suggestions, please let me know:

- How long will the radiation sessions last (total dosage vs. daily dose)?
- What are the side effects, and how should we manage or mitigate them? Also, how long do they typically last, and should we expect them immediately or can they be delayed?
- What is the primary goal of the radiation? Is it meant to stop the growth, shrink the tumors, or completely kill the targets?
- How will we know if the radiation is actually working?
- Is edema (swelling) an inevitable part of the process, or can it be avoided entirely?
- Will vision improve or return to normal? And once the treatment is done, does necrotic tissue remain in the brain, or does the body naturally clear it out?
- Are there specific dietary restrictions during radiation, or any rules regarding sun exposure?
- Regarding chemo through the spinal fluid after radiation—is that a definitive plan or just an option?
- What is the follow-up schedule, and how often will check-ups occur?
- When can we realistically expect to see results?
- Are there any ongoing clinical trials specifically targeting micrometastases?
- What about immunotherapy—specifically Keytruda?
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#2438 ·
Jacob Williams7 said:The results just came in:
Diagnosis: Malignant melanoma (superficial spreading type) T1aNxMx
A skin sample measuring 2x0.9x1 cm was received, featuring a slightly limited, unevenly pigmented lesion up to 0.6 cm in diameter. Histologically, the growth consists of nests and clusters of atypical melanocytes located within the basal layers of the epidermis and the papillary dermis, but they haven't reached the reticular dermis. The melanocytes clearly show signs of what’s called pagetoid spread through several layers of the epidermis. No mitosis was found in the dermal component of the tumor. The maximum thickness of the tumor is 0.34 mm. There is no evidence of lymphovascular invasion, microsatellitosis, or regression in the sections examined. Dense mononuclear infiltrates and pigmentophages were found at the base of the tumor, while the surface epidermis remains non-ulcerated. The tumor-infiltrating lymphocytes are dense. The described tumor does not reach the excision margins marked by the tissue dye; it is 6 mm from the nearest lateral margin and 9 mm from the base. Histological and immunohistochemical (HMB45, melan-A, LCA) findings are consistent with superficial spreading melanoma T1aNxMx, Clark II, Breslow.
Is there any hope?

I'd say yes, because we're looking at an early stage here with no visible signs of lymph node involvement or distant metastasis.

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Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#2439 ·
Ashley Robinson3 said:Hi everyone, I'm reaching out regarding my mother-in-law. Over 10 years ago, she was diagnosed with transitional cell carcinoma of the bladder. Right after the diagnosis, she started BCG therapy, which kept her doing well for years. However, about five or six years ago, she had a recurrence. Since then, she’s dealt with several relapses and surgeries; the most recent one was 18 months ago, where they had to remove her bladder, ovaries, fallopian tubes, appendix, and uterus—not to mention they already had to remove one kidney during a previous procedure. Since then, she’s just been going in for blood and urine checks, and the doctor told us to just reach out if anything changed, especially considering she's 80 now. For the last couple of months, things have taken a turn for the worse. She's lost her appetite, fallen into a depression, and is refusing to see any doctors until my husband finally had to force her to go to the ER because she was completely incapacitated. At the hospital, they found a shadow on one of her lungs. They gave her an IV, which seemed to perk her up enough for her to start eating again, but now she’s refusing a bronchoscopy. Being a healthcare worker herself, she’s convinced it’s a metastasis. She insists she’s far too weak for any kind of treatment and doesn't want to spend her remaining energy being exhausted by more medical intervention. My husband can't convince her otherwise, and honestly, I get where she's coming from. I know things are grim, and I worry that chemo would just drain what little strength she has left. It makes you wonder if there would even be any benefit. Then again, if you don't try, you'll never know.
I'm not even sure what I'm asking here—maybe looking for some shared experiences or advice. Should we respect her wishes, or should we keep pushing her to undergo the bronchoscopy? Personally, I think we should support her choice. She’s lived a full life, and since the disease progresses slowly at this stage, I doubt aggressive treatment would actually improve her quality of life. I'm trying not to overstep too much and am letting my husband handle the direct negotiations with her, while I focus on just being his support system.

I completely agree with you. If it is cancer, she is a conscious adult with every right to bodily autonomy, regardless of what anyone else thinks. Her wishes and her decisions deserve to be respected.

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Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#2440 ·
ruggedfox11 said:stormyfalcon68, we were actually out of town for a bit on vacation. Our radiation treatment is scheduled for July 12th, and we have the CT simulation this Friday. The oncologist brought up the possibility of intrathecal chemo, but we met with the neurosurgeon today and he’s leaning against surgery. He’d rather go the radiation route since he doesn't believe there are micrometastases, especially given that these two spots are on opposite sides—it would be an incredibly difficult operation to pull off.

Anyway, I’ve put together a list of questions for my oncologist. These are just a few of them—if you guys have any other helpful ones or if I missed anything important, please let me know:

How long is the radiation treatment going to last? Specifically, what’s the total dose we're looking at, and how much are they hitting me with each day?

It’s handled on an individual basis, but they strictly follow the established protocols. They'll give you the exact details.
ruggedfox11 said:Side effects—how to handle them, how to dull the edge, and how long they actually stick around. Do they hit you like a freight train immediately, or can they lie in wait?

Aside from fatigue and a sunburn-like sensation, there aren't many significant side effects to watch out for. When it comes to brain radiation, you might see an increase in edema, which can lead to hair loss or headaches, but once the therapy is under control, those usually settle down. Crucially, you cannot put ANYTHING on the treated area. That means absolutely no soaps, no shower gels, no body lotions, and definitely stay away from baby powder. You should wash it using nothing but lukewarm water and pat it dry very gently. If you do end up with burns, look up a recipe for gentian violet solution and just lightly dab the area.
ruggedfox11 said:What’s the actual point of the shelling? Is it just to halt the spread, scale things back, or completely wipe out the target?
How can you actually tell if radiation is working?
Does it actually have to happen, or can we just skip it entirely?
Will the visible fever actually improve or return to normal? And regarding the dead tissue in the brain—is that just going to sit there, or will the body eventually clear it out on its own?

The goal of radiation therapy is pretty straightforward: first and foremost, you want to stop the disease from spreading, and in the absolute best-case scenario, you’re looking to wipe the tumor out entirely.
Once they finish the radiation treatment, they’ll run a follow-up MRI to get a clear picture of how everything looks now.
It’ll show up in some way or another, in one form or another—it just doesn't hit everyone with the same intensity.
Whether or not you get that function back really boils down to one thing: did the tumor strike that specific center directly, or was the area just caught in the crossfire because of pressure from surrounding tissue?
Dead tissue—necrosis—is permanent. Once it's gone, it's gone. There's no coming back from that.
ruggedfox11 said:What about diet during radiation or sun exposure?
-Chemo via intrathecal administration after radiation—is that an option?
-How often should follow-ups happen, and after how long?
-When will we actually see results?
-Any clinical trials for micro-treatments?
-Immunotherapy—specifically Keytruda

For dietary advice, check out Cancer Help UK. They’ve broken everything down perfectly there.
As for the sun, don't go from being cautious to just being reckless. If you want to hit the beach, stick to the early morning or wait until dusk.

Regarding chemo through the spinal fluid, you absolutely need to bring that up as an option and have a serious talk with the doctors about the risks versus the benefits.

You might start seeing some results after just a few sessions, but the real clarity comes after the full course of therapy is finished and you get that follow-up MRI, which usually happens a few months after the last radiation session. This stuff has a long-lasting effect.

Check the link I posted recently for info on clinical trials.

Same goes for immunotherapy; talk it over with the doctor and look into what people are saying on international forums to get a sense of the experience.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Your husband is a hell of a fighter, and so are you. You both deserve so much credit!

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