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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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Tyler Jones6 Tyler Jones6 Active Member
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joined Jul 2007
#861 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:I don't quite get it—I haven't seen a single Ukrainian tank (aside from that one with the car attached), no planes, just people walking through the streets, the President giving addresses from the sidewalk... a stray bomb lands here and there, maybe a few people have actually left the country, though some are still heading out. It all feels strangely surreal...

It’s basically this: every Ukrainian is going to film themselves and upload it to YouTube saying, "Hey, there's 50 of us here, we've got one Arrow, about ten ATGMs, we're right here next to this hill, here are our GPS coordinates, and we'll be staying right here all night."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#862 ·
rape_artist said:Right now near Odessa, you’ve got Chechens on the move, and honestly, the Ukrainian military is basically running from them because they aren't playing around... They're gone.


That Ceneski guy talking about Putin is totally unhinged, seriously. I have no clue how he managed to mobilize them for war, but those guys from the Caucasus seem like a different breed entirely.

I caught some footage online—just a column of transport vehicles and APCs rolling through, with them waving their leader's flag everywhere.

If this turns out to be true... they're clearly there to take out any Ukrainians who aren't on the pro-Russian side.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...officials.html
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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joined Jan 2021
#863 ·
Ashley Ramirez4 said:I mean, they'd need training for that—they'd have to send troops too, but they aren't gonna do that.

Low-flying missiles should do the trick.. enough as it is
Just look at how the Russians are handling things—trying to pull off this "lightning war" tactic.

And honestly? It's not even working... plus, imagine if they actually had to go up against NATO.
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#864 ·
swiftjackal11 said:I don't get how you can be so dense. We're talking about two armies fighting on the exact same ground here. In the old conflict, there wasn't a single NATO soldier actually on the ground in Mexico.

Well, there was at least one—an F-117 pilot. I mean, if you aren't counting Mexico as part of Mexican territory from back then, then sure, maybe not.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#865 ·
Sam Alvarez4 said:No, they aren't.
But the paranoid KGB types in the Kremlin certainly are. Just like everyone serving them—driven by either pure fear or simple greed...

Perhaps it isn't the Russians themselves, but they are footing the bill now. They allowed a dictator to cling to power in The Kremlin. For most, replacing him felt too expensive; they feared the heavy hand of the state. It was easier to just stay quiet, play nice, and hope they wouldn't be noticed. Now, they are paying the blood tax for that choice. Because the man sitting in The Kremlin operates on a simple principle: his ideas are free, but you pay for them with your lives.
loneskipper3 loneskipper3 Member
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#866 ·
Justin Kern67 said:This simply serves as further evidence of how the Russians act as brutal occupiers, aggressors, and killers.

Brutal occupiers? Well, yes—because wherever the boot of Putin's soldier lands, prosperity and freedom tend to vanish instantly. I mean, really, what exactly is your grievance? Why shouldn't we be throwing flower petals at the troops of this Moscow despot?
Andrew Martinez8 Andrew Martinez8 Newcomer
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#867 ·
Ashley Ramirez4 said:It's not even that—they’re just highlighting what matters most to them. 🤣 😬

🤣

I'm hoping they'll send over some test results too, if only to make sure the guys don't end up on the field if they happen to come down with a cough.
placidnomad87 placidnomad87 Active Member
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#868 ·
driftingfox66 said:I’ve got a bad feeling this clown is gonna walk away scot-free again.

Of course they will, especially when Americans view a nation like Mexico in such a specific light within the European Union.🤣
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#869 ·
Arthur Watson4 said:The Dutch sent 200 units.

If there's any silver lining here, it's that everyone finally decided to step up with weapon shipments. I guess they realize it's useless if they don't act.

The Czechs are sending stuff too.

They need exactly that kind of hardware
Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't realize this sooner—or maybe the Americans just haven't spelled it out for them yet.

Those helicopters are basically "come get me" signals.
Literally. ☕
swiftjackal11 swiftjackal11 Regular
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#870 ·
Ashley Ramirez4 said:Well, there was at least one—an F-117 pilot. I mean, if you aren't counting Mexico as part of Mexican territory from back then, then sure, maybe not.

One person who isn't really anyone.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#871 ·
Ashley Ramirez4 said:Poles, Czechs, and Swedes won't be playing the World Cup qualifiers against Russia

So where exactly do the Poles and Czechs end up in a group with them? 😵
And they still would've had to play Russia as the host—right there in Moscow...

It’s pretty obvious there's pressure on FIFA to just suspend Russia—these teams aren't about to hand over their World Cup spots without a fight. FIFA will probably just move everything to a neutral site instead, let whoever wants to play, play.
electricstag9 electricstag9 Active Member
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#872 ·

Resistance against Russian fascists
gentleharbor3 gentleharbor3 Member
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#873 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:I don't quite get it—I haven't seen a single Ukrainian tank (aside from that one with the car attached), no planes, just people walking through the streets, the President giving addresses from the sidewalk... a stray bomb lands here and there, maybe a few people have actually left the country, though some are still heading out. It all feels strangely surreal...

Yeah, if you read these tweets from the people posting here,
it looks like Zelenskyy just takes a break between tweets,
spends maybe 2 or 3 hours dressed like a Ukrainian soldier,
and then barehanded takes down hundreds of Russian helicopters and paratroopers.
On the Russian side, nothing. I remember whenever a meteor fell
there were thousands of dashcam videos; the whole internet was flooded,
now? Nothing...
I wish we could read something strictly objective,
analytical, and surgically precise regarding casualty ratios and the situation on the ground,
without all this normative interference.
Obviously, everyone condemns the aggression—no dilemma there,
but some more objective reporting wouldn't hurt.
Keith Williams3 Keith Williams3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#874 ·
Grace Ramirez2 said:The guy just casually drops, "Hey, check out RT for a bit and get informed." 🤣


Like, what else are we supposed to watch? CNN or their local news branch here in the States?
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#875 ·
Italy has officially made the call to kick Russia out of SWIFT.

Now it’s just down to Germany.

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hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#876 ·
Amanda Hughes37 said:I don't quite get it—I haven't seen a single Ukrainian tank (aside from that one with the car attached), no planes, just people walking through the streets, the President giving addresses from the sidewalk... a stray bomb lands here and there, maybe a few people have actually left the country, though some are still heading out. It all feels strangely surreal...

They’re probably just doing a great job hiding their hardware so the Russians don't wipe everything out with airstrikes. That was basically the whole Russian narrative on day one—that they’d just annihilate the air force and air defenses in UA instantly. But then we saw yesterday that Ukrainians are definitely flying, and their air defense is busy swatting down Russian helicopters and drones.
Going toe-to-toe in an open field against the Russian Army would be straight-up suicide. Any major power would pay a massive price for a fight like that because that's exactly how they crush you with sheer numbers and superior tech.

Just like how our guys in the South used to set up bunkers and hide equipment everywhere, I’d bet my life that Ukraine was dug in at least 10 times deeper back when dealing with the Soviets.
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#877 ·
casualhound42 said:The Russians couldn't care less about how long this war drags on—it's not like they're punching a clock. They’re fully aware the West isn't going to step in.

Exactly—they operate like machines.

At this point, it's becoming painfully obvious that they've dug themselves into a hole in a war they simply cannot win.
You just can't win a ground war against 44 million people who are armed to the teeth and providing relentless resistance.
And to top it all off, the West keeps shipping them weaponry while providing constant logistical and media backing.

Ultimately, even in Russia, there is such a thing as a domestic public. Once they actually start feeling the fallout from this insane campaign, the entire foundation of things could shift for Putin.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active Member
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#878 ·
Not sure how long this has been floating around, but apparently, it shows a Russian soldier captured over in Columbus.

https://twitter.com/SobiNewsCom/stat...09024895578112
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#879 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:I suspect they never truly believed Lukashenko would actually get involved in all of this. A massive, monumental mistake.

Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that they had zero defense set up for Crimea.

That’s their biggest screw-up.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#880 ·
Tyler Jones6 said:That president was considered legitimate only as long as he stuck to his platform—specifically opening up negotiations with the EU and pushing through all those necessary reforms to help Ukraine grow again. It’s a bit like how they used to be more prosperous than Poland, until Poland eventually pulled ahead.

That "legitimate" leader actually tried to shove Ukraine into the so-called Eurasian Union overnight, where essentially nothing would change.

If you're going to bring up the Maidan, I suppose you should at least try to educate yourself on what actually happened there. ☕

Oh, I get it now—so if a former president wants to join one union, he’s gotta be overthrown, but if the current crowd wants in with NATO, suddenly it's just a sovereign nation doing its thing. Makes perfect sense. 😵

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