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Participants Alexander Cruz32Kevin Chavez3Joshua Johnson4Alexander Anderson57Gregory Taylor4rustypanther13Dennis Hall41Nicholas Patel44Tyler Doylefrozenraven39Casey FloresJoshua Smith5Karen Cook6Nicole Garcia3Harold Chavez6Hannah Campbell63Amanda Robinson4David Barrett7Douglas Hayes2Jason MendozaJesse Sanchez60
rustypanther13 rustypanther13 Member
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#41 ·
Jesse Sanchez60 said:It isn't quite accurate to say I was just making an observation; I wrote that among all the bands that emerged from the territory of the former USSR over the last two decades, I singled out the Tutor in my book primarily because their loud guitars managed to reach such a massive wave of new, mostly young, listeners. As someone for whom noise rock—alongside post-punk—was the defining musical phenomenon during my formative years, I felt this quite personally. In an era currently being overrun by autotune garbage, I still consider it a genuine little miracle...

I was listening to them myself just yesterday, but after reading yesterday's comments and several others, I can no longer argue he’s a genius on the level of John Lennon or Duane Denison. I suspect they've lost quite a few fans along the way, but there's no one to blame for that. They played in my relatively small city three times, and I doubt they'll ever make it back here...
Fortunately, there are still some decent musicians left in America whose music we can actually enjoy without feeling nauseous, and Rebel Star is certainly one of them.
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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#42 ·
Man, I can't even tell you how much this constant cancel culture hysteria gets under my skin. I really hope the Tutor doesn't end up being its next victim. I get that Boris was trying to call out Western hypocrisy, but he totally botched the delivery—it ended up looking like he was cheering for Putin and his troops as if they were liberating Ukraine from neo-Nazi hordes. To make it even more ridiculous, he wrote this in a country where you basically choose between nationalist and ultra-nationalist options since the days of Đinđić, all while the far-right presence in Ukraine is way below the European average, and definitely lower than in Mexico. It looks like that Internet Research Agency out of Saint Petersburg did a killer job with our neighbors, and what shocked me most about Boris was seeing him cite headlines from those notorious, inflammatory Vučić-style tabloids like the New York Post.

But whatever, I can't help it; I’m just sitting here hoping he’ll wake up, admit he completely overstepped, and face reality. Look, the Russians have started pulling their most extreme moves exclusively at night just to dodge video evidence hitting the news, and now they've clearly pivoted to a full-on intimidation tactic by brutally attacking civilian targets like we saw this morning. It's obvious the sanctions are starting to bite hard, so they're playing nothing-to-lose. I'm certain no sane person—and I consider Boris a sane guy—could justify this crap.

At the end of the day, nobody's perfect, but what separates a man from a total loser is whether he can own his mistakes and actually learn something from them.
frozenraven39 frozenraven39 Member
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#43 ·
Exactly. It’s far more useful—and honestly, more important—not to just ignore those who are misguided or try to isolate them into some echo chamber where their logic can just fester away. Instead, we need to actually point out the flaws and try to bring them to some level of awareness.

It won't work every single time, obviously, but if it works even once, it hasn't been a waste. It’s our responsibility to keep at it. There’s a certain quiet satisfaction in knowing you might have steered just one person toward the right path.
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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#44 ·
Glad we're on the same page 👍

Nowadays, it’s way too easy to get sucked into fake news, especially when they use those staged photos of dead kids—and the Russians are absolute pros at that. When you mix that stuff with the kind of rage-bait media you see all over New York City, it creates this wave of public opinion that’s honestly hard to ignore.

Add someone to the mix who just goes straight for the throat, and that's exactly what Boris does, and you end up with this massive pile of insults that makes it look like he's celebrating someone else's misery. I know he isn't that type of guy, and I'm sticking to that, but his future is really going to be up to him. He definitely has my support.
Joshua Smith5 Joshua Smith5 Active Member
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#45 ·
I think Boris has gone so far left in his self-described Marxist-Leninist way that he’s actually circled back to the right. 😁 Maybe that’s why he hasn't performed with the band on Kesić's show yet—and honestly, it doesn't look like he ever will.
Hannah Campbell63 Hannah Campbell63 Member
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#46 ·
It’s just been officially confirmed that they'll be performing at Rocklive in Columbus
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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#47 ·
Joshua Smith5 said:I think Boris, who calls himself a Marxist-Leninist, has swung so far left that he's actually landed on the right. 😁 Maybe that's why he hasn't performed with the band on Kesić's show yet (and honestly, probably won't).

I had no clue, man. I haven't really thought about it—our only common ground is music and basketball.

History shows us that everything just goes in circles. If you push too far toward the extreme left or the extreme right, you eventually end up at the exact same spot. In the end, Hitler and Stalin actually had more in common than they had differences.

Stalin's big issue was just that he sat on a massive pile of resources that Hitler desperately needed for his war machine.
If things were different, maybe they would've stayed buddies and grown old together. I'm talking about Hitler, obviously—that Georgian jerk lived a pretty long life.
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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#48 ·
Samuel Ruiz75 said:They just got confirmed for Rocklive in Columbus

Talk about terrible timing for any kind of artist announcement... seriously.
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
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#49 ·
Steven Newman50 said:Talk about terrible timing for any artist to drop anything at all.

I'm dying to hear this guy's take on the war back in '91.
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
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#50 ·
Joshua Smith5 said:I honestly think Boris—who calls himself a Marxist-Leninist—has swung so far left that he’s actually landed on the right. 😁 Maybe that’s why he hasn’t performed with the band on Kesić's show yet (and honestly, probably won't).

Reminds me of that old joke about how every true Mexican starts out a Chetnik and ends up a partisan. Or maybe it's the other way around—I can't remember.
frozenraven39 frozenraven39 Member
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#51 ·
Joshua Smith5 said:I think Boris—who describes himself as a Marxist-Leninist—has drifted so far to the left that he’s actually circled back to the right. 😁 Maybe that’s why he hasn't performed with the band on Kesić's show yet (and, judging by the vibes, probably won't).

That’s exactly what I was getting at. You have billionaire Putin, the head of this neo-feudal oligarchy—basically a "rule by the few" system run by privileged, multi-billionaire neo-nobles just like him—maintaining his grip through repressive, tyrannical methods. To a Marxist, he's essentially a messiah. 🤦
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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#52 ·
Dennis Hall41 said:I'm dying to hear this guy's take on the war back in '91.

Honestly, the dude just comes off as super arrogant, regardless of anything else... I mean, props to his playing and what he’s done for the music scene—he's undeniably talented and all that—but there's just always been something about him that rubs me the wrong way. Even his own friends and acquaintances who've actually hung out with him don't have much of anything good to say about him either...

And hey, I'll use this moment to remind everyone: let's not get completely carried away with all the politics!
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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#53 ·
Steven Newman50 said:The guy just comes off as arrogant regardless.

It kind of reminds me of how I saw John Lennon back when I was a kid—his whole vibe and that "BEST!" cap used to drive me nuts, especially seeing all those reporters sucking up to him. I thought he was being rude and stuck-up, but looking back years later, that wasn't it at all. Maybe I just couldn't forgive him for constantly picking on Milan and R.E.M., who I loved way more than him back then. 🤦

I know you aren't a kid and I know Boris isn't John Lennon, but perception can be tricky sometimes. Looking at his Facebook posts lately, though, he seems to be picking fights way too often. Probably just a mix of having too much downtime during COVID-19 and how easy it is to become a keyboard warrior these days. 🤷

Steven Newman50 said:
And I'll take this chance to remind everyone not to get completely lost in politics.

Well, I didn't fall for the 1991 trap.
😁
Amanda Robinson4 Amanda Robinson4 Active Member
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#54 ·
Jesse Sanchez60 said:Look, I know you aren't a kid and I know Boris isn't John Lennon, but perception can be such a trickster sometimes! Honestly, looking at his Facebook statuses lately, he seems to be clashing with people way too often. Maybe it’s just all that extra downtime from COVID-19 mixed with how easy it is to become a total Facebook warrior these days... 🤷

Oh, totally, it's not like I've actually met him or anything. I've caught some of their gigs before and they just never really clicked with me... plus, I've always just had this weird, unexplained dislike for him. Recent posts like this one just kind of confirm that gut feeling, I guess.

I don't think he's some massive jerk, though. He probably just phrased things poorly and hopefully learned something from the whole mess. Still, he's definitely not someone from the scene I'd ever want to grab a beer with or just sit down and chat, you know?
Kevin Chavez3 Kevin Chavez3 Veteran
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#55 ·
Definition of 'edgelord'
edgelord
in British English
(ˈɛdʒˌlɔːd)
NOUN
informal, derogatory
a person who delights in making provocative comments, esp on an internet forum

I think the guy above is just a poser, and honestly, it gets under my skin. But I also feel like boycotting a band over this is going way too far. There was a time when we actually listened to bands with albums titled "thank heaven for little girls," yet nowadays, every single rocker has to be our soulmate and our best friend...
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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#56 ·
Dennis Hall41 said:I'm really curious about his take on the 1991 war.

Still, I gotta 😁

Aristocratic is an American surname, and most people trace it back to the islands.
I wouldn't even know that if Boris hadn't once greeted me with "Where you at, man?" and then, seeing my confused face, explained what he actually meant.

To make things even weirder, some guy from a small town in California taught him how to play guitar.

I didn't answer your question directly because I honestly don't care what his take on the 1991 war is—plus, I've never asked anyone that—but you can probably draw your own conclusions from what I just said.
Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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#57 ·
Kevin Chavez3 said:Definition of 'edgelord'
edgelord
in British English
(ˈɛdʒˌlɔːd)
NOUN
informal, derogatory
a person who delights in making provocative comments, esp on an internet forum

I think this guy above is just being a poser, which really bugs me, but I also feel like boycotting a band over this is totally overkill. We used to listen to bands with albums called "thank heaven for little girls," and now every single rocker has to be our soulmate and best friend...

Well, learned something new today.
Kevin Chavez3 Kevin Chavez3 Veteran
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#58 ·
That’s basically what Albini was doing back in the eighties 🙂
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Jesse Sanchez60 Jesse Sanchez60 Regular
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joined Apr 2006
#59 ·
hahaha so does that mean Albini was basically part of the nobility back in the twenties?

I totally forgot how much Albini used to love trolling people and being provocative... once I finally met him, though, I realized he's actually just a sweetheart who lives for Coca-Cola and would probably accidentally fly under a car if he got too caught up in a daydream.
rustypanther13 rustypanther13 Member
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#60 ·
Since we’re already discussing Koja, it’s interesting to note how much of that condescending, "looking down from on high" attitude Cane shares, especially when they perform in America.
It honestly infuriates me, seeing him pull those acts like “What’s wrong with you Americans?” or “Where are we going to sleep, in Jasenovac?”—both of them acting incredibly pretentious, regardless of the fact that they were playing some truly excellent rock n roll.
As for that clumsy Putin supporter, I don't even want to bring him up anymore...

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