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Arthur Anderson49 Arthur Anderson49 Active Member
127 messages
joined Nov 2007
#61 ·
casualotter21 said:Well, it's a little too late for that now, man.

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Constantine said:I'm just totally over those shallow movies like Underworld that try to hook teenagers by leaning so hard on sex and action.

Oh, wow, yeahโ€”nothing worse than sex and action, right? Give me a break! It makes me cringe, especially the sex scenes.

Constantine said:Secondly: where are the days when the leads were guys like Schwarzenegger, Mel Gibson, Kurt Russell, and Stallone? Real maฤizam is what you get with Conan!

Hey, who knows? I find women pretty attractive too! I don't even know how to label it. Is it just being "girly"? I know it isn't feminism.

Constantine said:Thirdly: it's just pure stupidity how they wear that tight leather in the second installment, whereas look at Blade. His outfit is flawless: everything fits perfectly from his silver discs to his katana.

Wow, talk about picking a "high-quality" movie for comparison... Seriously, is there any movie or franchise more ridiculous than Blade? Honestly, the only things worth watching in that whole thing are Snipes and his coat. (Look, I've seen them all, and I'll probably watch a fourth if they ever make one, but hey, you gotta know what's actually good!)

Constantine said:Women didn't have any rights back then (Middle Ages, the Inquisition, and stuff like that). They were just mistresses or housewives.

Sure, take Joan of Arc, Countess Bathory, or Elizabeth I... (Those are just the first three that popped into my head, and they definitely left a trail of blood behind them!)
boldhound32 boldhound32 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2006
#62 ·
So, I just finished watching the second installment. I found the initial concept from the first movieโ€”the idea of vampires and werewolves existing as two warring clansโ€”to be quite intriguing, especially once they started hinting at their shared origins and suggesting that vampires aren't actually the heavy hitters compared to the lycans. However, the subsequent plot developments, particularly in this sequel, didn't quite meet my expectations. I suppose I'm just a huge fan of the fantasy genre, specifically vampire lore, so I was hoping for a much more detailed look into their ancient societies. Instead, it feels like everything just stays stuck at the level of the first film. Even the special effects weren't an improvement; the werewolf transformations and movements felt lackluster. There was also a lack of world-buildingโ€”no grand cities, palaces, or sprawling halls to show the decadence these vampires enjoyed through the centuries or even in the modern day; we just got one single ruined fortress. When the second part kicked off with that scene set back in 1202, featuring vampires as a group of riders in really cool armor, I thought we might see more glimpses into that era, but not really. Everything just drifts right back to that same urban atmosphere. Honestly, the fight scenes feel repetitive, almost like they've been recycling the same choreography since >. It also seemed a bit odd to me that Selene doesn't carry a sword; there were so many skirmishes where she was just firing bursts for several seconds straight at unarmed werewolves, when a single swing of a blade would have probably sufficed. I think the werewolf combat would have been much more effective if they had modeled it after the fights in the > animation, making their movements feel faster and more fluid.
I mean, sure, Selene looks pretty badass in that leather outfit, but I guess for someone constantly engaged in combat, such tight clothing might actually get in the way.
Even though this is a modest > hybrid, I find that the first part actually feels better and more engaging than the second. It almost feels as if they filmed the sequel simply because they had some leftover budget from the first production.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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joined Feb 2003
#63 ·
Underworld is airing on ABC this Saturday. How thrilling. First they ran Van Helsing, and now this. Apparently, some people just can't get enough of Kate Beckinsale.
Jose Chase2 Jose Chase2 Active Member
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#64 ·
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Douglas Cooper Douglas Cooper Member
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joined Nov 2006
#65 ·
What an absolute dumpster fire of a movie!!!! They completely butchered their own sacred loreโ€”the whole Vampire thing is just trashed now. A total disgrace.
Michael Long5 Michael Long5 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2006
#66 ·
Ah...
There was a time when a single monster and one grizzled sidekick were more than enough to carry a movie...

Nowadays, they just cram every vampire that ever existed into a single film.... EVER EXISTED???? ๐Ÿ˜‚ They throw in Igor and his boss, some racing bird, a Tasmanian devil, even all those Playboy centerfolds from the winter season of '70-'71... you name it.

I suppose these new generations have a permanent high tolerance for monsters, so they can digest two Frankensteins, a pack of werewolves, and a Dr. Mr. Grrrr... Hyda on steroids all within a single hour.
Iโ€™m not saying the concept itself isn't inherently flawed, but... weโ€™re going to end up with nothing left of actual monsters.๐Ÿ˜ฒ
And what happens then???
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Arthur Anderson49 Arthur Anderson49 Active Member
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joined Nov 2007
#67 ·
Michael Long5 said:but... we'll end up without any monsters ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
So what happens then???
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Oh, come on; you've always got the US Congress.
Jose Chase2 Jose Chase2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#68 ·
Arthur Anderson49 said:Well, look at thatโ€”there's always the US Congress.

That's not scary, just nasty ๐Ÿคฎ
driftingmason7 driftingmason7 Active Member
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joined Sep 2006
#69 ·
So, I noticed this flick finally made its way onto TV, which means even the folks who skipped it during the theatrical run have likely caught a glimpse by now. Iโ€™m curious to hear what your collective thoughts are on the film; as for my own take, I found myself quite enjoying how they
managed to weave werewolves and vampires into a single narrative threadโ€”it's a surprisingly cohesive setup. Any glaring plot holes seem to be effectively patched over with some pretty impressive special effects. I suspect the old-school purists might start grumbling if there happened to be a similar story out there somewhere, claiming it's nothing more than a derivative rip-off, but since I can't say for certain if such a precedent exists, I'll just say I give it a ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ steady three out of five, plus
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crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#70 ·
dane18 crimsonmoose3 said:So, I saw it was on TV, which means even the people who missed it the first time have finally caught up. I'm curious to hear what you all thought of the movie. As for my own take, I actually liked how they...
They threw werewolves and vampires into the same story. Itโ€™s actually a pretty solid flick; they managed to plug all the plot holes with some decent special effects. I'm sure the old-school crowd will start complaining that itโ€™s a rip-off if there was some similar cult classic out there before, but since I can't think of anything quite like it, I'll give it a pass... ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ A solid three plus...

I haven't seen anything quite like this, even if they are lifting material from Vampire: The Masquerade... though the opening bears a striking resemblance to The Matrix.

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