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Anyone still running Windows 7?

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Jacob Foster11 Jacob Foster11 Active Member
132 messages
joined Nov 2007
#3001 ·
A 32-bit OS theoretically can't address more than 4 GB of RAM. The math is pretty straightforward:
A 32-bit OS => addressing uses a 32-bit binary number => there are 2^32 different combinations of digits in a 32-bit binary number
2^32 = (2^2) * (2^10) * (2^10) * (2^10) = 4 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 = 4 GB
In short, 32-bit operating systems are ancient history.

(In reality, they can't even hit the full 4 GB, just like Jack said.)
Douglas Garcia52 Douglas Garcia52 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Sep 2010
#3002 ·
James Reed7 said:Heh... I mean, yeah, let it write for now. I was thinking about grabbing another 4 GB, but if he can't even make use of what's already there, why bother throwing money down the drain? Not worth it. This should hold me over for now, but in a year or two? Yeah, it'll definitely be tight.

you're just flushing cash away, man. 4GB is plenty.😉
James Reed7 James Reed7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3003 ·
Well, that would mean I’ve already gone ahead and dropped some cash on Windows 7... 😢 seeing as my plan was to ride with it for at least five years or so.

I stuck with Windows XP for seven whole years—though, naturally, I kept upgrading the hardware along the way—so even that old machine ended up with 4 GB of RAM (DDR 1), even though it started out with a measly 512 MB back in the day. It’s actually still kicking! My daughter uses it now, and honestly, it handles her stuff just fine.

I picked up Windows 7 thinking I wouldn't even come close to hitting that 4 GB ceiling. Man, what a headache. Oh well—I guess she can keep the current setup, and I'll just go ahead and grab the 64-bit version for myself. Talk about a curveball!
driftingnomad68 driftingnomad68 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2005
#3004 ·
Wait, what exactly did you pick up? Was it an OEM version or the one from Walmart? It’s gotta be just 32-bit, right? Are you absolutely sure there isn't an option to choose during the installation process?
James Reed7 James Reed7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3005 ·
Windows 7 Professional. Walmart edition. Honestly, I don't think I even have a say in the matter here. 🤔 Please, for the love of everything holy, don't make me go through the whole ordeal of trying to reinstall this thing all over again... 🤔
driftingnomad68 driftingnomad68 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2005
#3006 ·
Check what it says on the box about that, don't go reinstalling 😁
James Reed7 James Reed7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3007 ·
🤦

Man, you really came through for me there! You seriously saved me a ton of cash—and honestly, having both versions included is such a massive win. 👍

Edit: On second thought, I think I'm actually going to go ahead and do a clean reinstall after all. 😁
James Reed7 James Reed7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3008 ·
Do you think I’ll run into any activation headaches now, seeing as this 32-bit version has already been activated once before?

And honestly, if things get messy, I’ll just give Microsoft US a call. 👍 Thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction!
driftingnomad68 driftingnomad68 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2005
#3009 ·
They won't get back to you until Monday 😁 If I were you, I'd just hang tight for a bit 😬
I mean, I don't think it's going to be a huge deal, but personally? I wouldn't go through the hassle of reinstalling everything just because of that 😁
James Reed7 James Reed7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3010 ·
I’m actually planning to get this installed later tonight—it doesn't really matter if they don't officially roll it out until Monday, right? I should have about that 30-day grace period to get everything activated.
Plus, I’ll be ready to toss another 4 GB their way first thing Monday morning! It’s not like I absolutely *need* it right this second, but that’s just how I operate—I’ve always been the type to grab something just to have it sitting there, even if I end up never actually using it.
driftingmarlin70 driftingmarlin70 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jul 2010
#3011 ·
honestly, if i were you, i'd just grab a new rig and go with DDR3 RAM 🍿
Taylor Morales31 Taylor Morales31 Member
33 messages
joined May 2014
#3012 ·
Jacob Foster11 said:The math is pretty basic: a 32-bit OS can't theoretically address more than 4 GB of RAM. It’s simple logic:
A 32-bit OS => addressing is done using a 32-bit binary number => there are 2^32 different digit combinations in a 32-bit binary number
2^32 = (2^2) * (2^10) * (2^10) * (2^10) = 4 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 = 4 GB
Bottom line? 32-bit operating systems are ancient history.

(And let's be real, they can't even utilize the full 4 GB, just like Jack pointed out.)


Exactly. And honestly, I don't feel like I'm missing anything by sticking to 32-bit, since 99% of software is still 32-bit anyway, right? 👍
Karen Ward2 Karen Ward2 Member
34 messages
joined Mar 2009
#3013 ·
driftingmarlin70 said:If I were in your shoes, I'd just grab a new PC and go with DDR3 RAM🍿

I’d aim for at least 16GB, too. It’s always better to have that extra headroom ready just in case you need it.
Jacob Foster11 Jacob Foster11 Active Member
132 messages
joined Nov 2007
#3014 ·
Taylor Morales31 said:Even on 32-bit, you still get the translation and the 8-bit support. I don't feel like I'm missing anything on 32-bit since 99% of software is 32-bit anyway, right? 👍

It's obvious you've never actually worked with Adobe Premiere or AVCHD. 😉
Taylor Morales31 Taylor Morales31 Member
33 messages
joined May 2014
#3015 ·
So you're claiming that Photoshop and Office still run on 32-bit architecture, but if that's the case, how can you call it the "past"? Are they actually abandoning 32-bit support already, or are you suggesting that just because of those two specific programs, I should jump ship and install a 64-bit OS right now? What, am I supposed to just move everything over so that 99% of my essential software ends up sitting in the Windows x86 folder? Is that really where we're headed?

Look, everyone’s an expert on something. 👍
Jacob Foster11 Jacob Foster11 Active Member
132 messages
joined Nov 2007
#3016 ·
It isn't about whether it's 32-bit or not. The reality is that for certain tasks, 4 GB is simply insufficient. For instance, say you buy a high-end HD camcorder to film family events. You want to edit those clips, organize them, or maybe add a transition effect. Good luck with that. 👍

Maybe it's less obvious today. But in a few years, 4 GB definitely won't be enough for most people.
James Reed7 James Reed7 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3017 ·
Look, I’m not saying everyone needs to jump ship and install 64-bit Windows this very second—it’s not an emergency! But for me? It’s all about looking down the road and making sure my setup stays relevant for years to come. Let's be real: in maybe five years, that 4 GB RAM limit is going to feel incredibly cramped.

If I were stuck with a ceiling that low, it would basically feel like I just spent a fortune on hardware that I'll be forced to toss in the trash in no time at all.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
170 messages
joined May 2014
#3018 ·
So, I’m running this wild version of Windows 7 Professional, right? And I was wondering, how do I actually set a higher default zoom level without having to mash that plus key every single time I open something? Honestly, everything felt so much more intuitive back when I was using Windows XP. I don't know, man, I think I was just way more satisfied with things back then.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
211 messages
joined Apr 2007
#3019 ·
The other day I went ahead and installed Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit, but now half my friends are breathing down my neck telling me I should have gone with the 64-bit version instead. They’re acting like this 32-bit setup isn't even real Windows 7—just calling it garbage and saying everything about it is broken.

Dammit, what am I supposed to do here? I’ve only got 2 GB of RAM. Should I just bite the bullet and install the 64-bit version, or stick with what I have? I'm thinking about doing the reinstall now while my C drive is still mostly empty and before I go ahead and clutter it up with all the software I actually need. Honestly, I don't run any "heavyweight" programs, so the 32-bit version seems perfectly fine for my needs right now.

Can you even run 64-bit on 2 GB of RAM? I see the minimum requirement is listed at 2 GB, whereas the 32-bit version can limp along on just 1 GB, but I don't know. That whole "minimum configuration" thing always feels like it's cutting it way too close for comfort.🤷
driftingmarlin70 driftingmarlin70 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jul 2010
#3020 ·
honestly, if you've got 2 GB on 64-bit, you're golden. ignore the haters, they don't know what they're talking about...☕

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