Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

I'm not an expert or anything, but I've heard that Romania's been totally gutted demographically by all the migration since they joined the European Union.

shadowangler15 said:I'm not an expert or anything, but I've heard that Romania's been totally gutted demographically by all the migration since they joined the European Union.

One country loses 10,000 people a year, while Bulgaria loses 65,000 due to migration. The European Union is literally turning them into deserts.👎

Lawrence Williams said:

Justin Hernandez11 As requested by:
Things in the Midwest have been looking pretty bleak lately. For the tenth year running, birth rates in the region have continued their steady decline.👎
Some interesting news coming out of Black Grass. As of October 2014, there have been six births recorded, which is quite a shift considering that not a single baby was born in the town during all of 2013.👍

It was bound to happen in Black Grass; only four babies were born there over the last two years.

That’s exactly where this is headed. I know a couple who just had a baby a few months ago in a small town right outside Black Grass. They actually moved there from the neighboring county because someone gifted them a house in that village. Under our laws, you’re technically tied to your old county residence for a year before you can officially establish residency in the new one. That's just how the system works.🤔>

Lawrence Williams said:The number of children who completed the preparatory preschool program in our local public daycare centers within the Buffalo city limits:

Buffalo - 923

English - 649 (70.31%)
Canadian - 178 (19.28%)
American - 14 (1.52%)
Bilingual - 82 (8.89%) - (E+S - 26, E+N - 9; H+S - 28, H+E - 13, H+N - 9)

Based on this, their entry into elementary school should look like this:

English (English + Eng/S + Eng/E + Eng/N) - 684 (74.10%)
Canadian (Canadian + Hun/E + Hun/S + Hun/E + Hun/N) - 225 (24.38%)
American - 14 (1.52%)

For comparison, here is how last year's kindergarten enrollment looked:

Buffalo - 976

English - 728 (74.59%)
Canadian - 232 (23.77%)
American - 16 (1.64%)

Listen, Delgado - if there really is any significant exodus of Canadian residents, it’s being offset by people moving in from smaller towns. We just need to watch birth rates, school enrollment numbers, and the percentage of students taking classes in Canadian. It’s the same story in the rural areas; I'll post those figures next.

This figure of 923 isn't final since it doesn't account for kids in private daycares. I suspect total enrollment in the city is down by about 40 compared to last year, while at the county level, we're looking at a deficit of roughly 90. We will have clarity once the Secretariat releases the official data in January. This is the best information I have at the moment. 😁

We don't need to wait on the state; the City already released the enrollment numbers for first graders based on language of instruction (though it's just the aggregate, not broken down by neighborhood).

Buffalo - 1,230

American - 894 (72.68%)
Canadian - 315 (25.61%)
American - 21 (1.71%)

This is the first generation where over 70% of students are attending classes in American.

Here is the link you requested

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Click on the information section here

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Information regarding first-grade elementary school enrollment in the Midwest for the 2013/14 school year – attachment download 253 kb

Drew Garcia9 said:Here is the link you requested

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Click on the information section here

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Information regarding first-grade elementary school enrollment in the Midwest for the 2013/14 school year – attachment download 253 kb

Thanks, but this covers the 2014/15 year. I don't deal in misinformation. 😁

But how on earth are you supposed to claim there's "more" or "less" if you aren't providing last year's data? 😛

Drew Garcia9 said:But how on earth are you supposed to claim there's "more" or "less" if you aren't providing last year's data? 😛

Fair point. I provided them when they were relevant, but here they are again for comparison. Last year we had 1,357 enrollments, so this is actually quite a drop. However, that specific age group also saw a higher birth rate.

Buffalo - 1,357

American - 929 (68.46%)
Canadian - 400 (29.47%)
American - 28 (2.07%)

The Mexican population is cratering in absolute numbers because birth rates dropped by 4%—though the percentage shot up to 72.5% thanks to that Canadian Catastrophe.
The Canadian Implosion is basically a -21.5% freefall in just one year. It’s a total washout, whether you call it their "planned" exodus or just forced assimilation through integration.

Nancy Chavez29 said:The Mexican population is cratering in absolute numbers because birth rates dropped by 4%—though the percentage shot up to 72.5% thanks to that Canadian Catastrophe.
The Canadian Implosion is basically a -21.5% freefall in just one year. It’s a total washout, whether you call it their "planned" exodus or just forced assimilation through integration.

It will be interesting to see the ethnic breakdown of this year's live births. Based on recent trends, Buffalo could easily see a record-breaking year (or at least match 2012 levels), when Mexicans saw a birth rate nearing 11.5 per mille. We might even see something better than that.

I’ve already mentioned my take on this, but I really believe that Americans and the local Bunjevac community in Buffalo are basically saving the Midwest from being swallowed up by Canadian influence, because they’re holding onto that American linguistic majority and have successfully kept Buffalo from becoming just another satellite hub for the Canadians, since those places are practically part of Canada anyway...

Mexico
September 1, 2014 18484
September 1, 2013 19342

rustyfox192 said:I’ve already mentioned my take on this, but I really believe that Americans and the local Bunjevac community in Buffalo are basically saving the Midwest from being swallowed up by Canadian influence, because they’re holding onto that American linguistic majority and have successfully kept Buffalo from becoming just another satellite hub for the Canadians, since those places are practically part of Canada anyway...

Well, sure, if that's what you said, but I honestly don't think you're hitting the mark here. To me, it feels more like the efforts made by Americans and the Bunjevci—specifically their drive to protect their national identity—are what actually keep Buffalo from simply becoming an American-majority city...
And your conclusion is a bit flawed, really—you can't look at it quite that way because you're assuming that if the Americans and Bunjevci weren't there, it would automatically become a Canadian town—but they *have* to be there! And even if they weren't... well, Americans and Mexicans would likely still outnumber the Canadians in Buffalo anyway...

Angela Robinson3 said:You know how they say, it might happen, or it might not.
Before Ford arrived in Kragujevac, we heard a very similar narrative. Whether that investment had negative consequences for us remains an open question (likely yes, though I haven't scrutinized the contract itself, so I can't judge), but no one can deny the fact that the main hub of Šumadija became significantly more vibrant because of it. Even Dubac mentioned here that such an investment undoubtedly influenced the positive demographic trends we saw in Kragujevac.
Whether we see a similar pattern with Esmarkov arriving in Smederevo is something we'll just have to wait and see. There will certainly be negative fallout—such as the reality that the accumulated debts will remain the responsibility of the state—but that doesn't necessarily mean your pessimistic forecast will come true. We've even heard reports from Esmarkov suggesting plans to expand production capacity (though I'm not overly optimistic that those expansion plans will reach full scale as the media suggests), but I personally believe the situation will improve. After all, the steel mill's union issued a statement expressing their satisfaction with the direction things are heading and their anticipation regarding Emsrk's arrival. Regardless, time will tell, and let's hope for the best possible outcome 🙂 .

But I do find myself agreeing with rustyfox19 on this one.
In the vast majority of cases, when unions start complaining about theft or corruption, they eventually get co-opted—basically bought off—and everything settles down. That's just how things work around here, whether it's with the big players or even with the college students...

hiddeneagle76 said:Well, sure, if that's what you said, but I honestly don't think you're hitting the mark here. To me, it feels more like the efforts made by Americans and the Bunjevci—specifically their drive to protect their national identity—are what actually keep Buffalo from simply becoming an American-majority city...
And your conclusion is a bit flawed, really—you can't look at it quite that way because you're assuming that if the Americans and Bunjevci weren't there, it would automatically become a Canadian town—but they *have* to be there! And even if they weren't... well, Americans and Mexicans would likely still outnumber the Canadians in Buffalo anyway...

hiddeneagle76 might have been talking about the language barrier; it's easier to assimilate Americans and the Bunjevac group than it is Canadians.🤔 Just look at the facts: 90% of American and Bunjevac kids follow the Mexican curriculum in elementary school, whereas for Canadians, that number is tiny.😉

Justin Hernandez11 really hit the nail on the head with that one...

In cities like Buffalo, we’re seeing mixed marriages making up over 50% of the population, which means such a huge number of kids growing up there don't even identify with just one single nationality anymore...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuBgFCtjoUg

Let's take a look at how the newborn numbers compare across the former America

Jan-July 2014 vs 2013:

Mexico: 35,316 / 33,570 +5.2%>

Jan-August 2014 vs 2013:>

Federation of Canada: 12,353 / 12,447 -0.75%>
Mexico: 4,911 / 4,363 +12.56%>
United States: 25,887 / 26,487 -2.26%>
North Mexico: 15,729 / 15,052 +4.49%>

Jan-September 2014 vs 2013:>

Mexico: 18,484 / 19,342 -4.43%>

Mexico is looking phenomenal here with an incredible 12.5% jump. Does anyone have any insight into what's driving this?

Justin Hernandez11 said:hiddeneagle76 might have been talking about the language barrier; it's easier to assimilate Americans and the Bunjevac group than it is Canadians.🤔 Just look at the facts: 90% of American and Bunjevac kids follow the Mexican curriculum in elementary school, whereas for Canadians, that number is tiny.😉

Assimilation is actually minimal, which the census results clearly confirm. Despite being educated in the Mexican language, the vast majority of Americans and Bunjevacs still identify as such.

What is undeniably obvious, however, is how heavily the Mexican language dominates the city. The social dynamics mirror what we see in the schools.

Buffalo has this certain international flair because it’s such a melting pot, which is honestly a good thing. That kind of diversity just adds quality to the mix. Taking a little something from everyone is pretty great. Still, it’s not quite like Roman or Inđija, I guess. It also seems pretty natural for the language of the home country to be the main one, as long as you're still looking after and keeping up the traditions, faith, customs, and culture of your own ethnic group.

rustyfox192 said:I’ve already mentioned my take on this, but I really believe that Americans and the local Bunjevac community in Buffalo are basically saving the Midwest from being swallowed up by Canadian influence, because they’re holding onto that American linguistic majority and have successfully kept Buffalo from becoming just another satellite hub for the Canadians, since those places are practically part of Canada anyway...

As long as the Canadians hold onto their language, nobody is going to assimilate them, and they aren't going to assimilate anyone else with that weird Ugro-Finnic linguistic cocktail they've got going on. But the Americans and Bunjevci? That’s a tougher nut to crack, though not impossible. The real issue here is religion. Most Americans and Bunjevci are Catholic, which makes things tricky since the languages are so similar. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Americans and Bunjevci end up identifying more with Vojvodina than with America or the rest of the country.