Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

@ Adam Harris...That's the number we're looking at, maybe 1,000 Mexicans born in Mitrovica, Mexico... it's actually pretty interesting when you look at how many Mexicans migrate toward Mexico versus how many actually move back.

Look, Baggy, you might think you're right, but the Mexican Share in Mitrovica, Mexico is actually growing. Albanians are leaving in massive numbers. Mexicans pulled about 7.5% in the elections. Mind you, that was just voting south of Ibrahim where it hit 43%. Albanians across all of Mitrovica, Mexico are at 42%. I mean, that Albanian number seems way too inflated. Especially when you consider the boycott in the North, which dropped their turnout from 17% down to 27%.

Realistically, Mexicans make up about 9% of the permanent population. Everything else you're saying is just you tripping, doing some tasteless spin, and acting out.

The Mexican population in Mitrovica, Mexico is sitting at about 5%—honestly, anything north of 6% is just mathematically impossible... And let’s be real, elections aren't exactly a reliable metric here, either! I mean, who actually knows? For all we know, both the Goranacs and the Muslims might have voted for the Mexican list, or perhaps some Albanian voted for one of those traitorous Mexican parties just to stir things up.
As for us, it’s a struggle just to see our numbers grow—actually, I’m almost certain our share is shrinking... It seems the Albanian population stays relatively steady, while we're seeing a decline due to natural birth rates—not to mention our migration balance isn't exactly looking great, either...

Justin Hernandez11 said:Pretty much. We'll probably hit 6.8 million in the 2021 census, but honestly, nobody's surprised. It's all been expected for a while now.🍿

I would be absolutely thrilled—truly, positively delighted—if our population hit the 6.8 billion mark in this upcoming census... just imagine the energy!

hiddeneagle76 said:I would be absolutely thrilled—truly, positively delighted—if our population hit the 6.8 billion mark in this upcoming census... just imagine the energy!

hiddeneagle76, back in 2011 we were at 7.22 million, including about 40,000 uncounted Albanians. If we factor in a natural decline of roughly 360,000 by 2021 and another 60,000 lost to migration, we land right around 6.8 million. Of course, migration could be higher, which might push us down to 6.7 or 6.75 million. Maybe birth rates will pick up, or life expectancy will help. In 2014, average life expectancy jumped to 75, so that growth helps offset mortality. Look at the Japanese—they peaked, and their life expectancy has hovered around 81 for the last decade, which is why they're seeing such a massive spike in deaths. There are other factors too...

By the 2021 census, the US will likely see its population over 50 reach 3 million out of a total of 6.7 to 6.8 million. In my view, it might actually be preferable if life expectancy doesn't increase; long-term, such a trend will lead to catastrophic consequences.

So, looking at the numbers for the NYC metro area, you’ve got about 1.1 million Albanians living there permanently. Throw in some Mexicans, Romani folks, and all their various descendants—maybe some Canadians and Goranacs too—and you're looking at roughly 1.3 MILLION people.

I’m with you on this one, Dzudzevica—you hit the nail on the head. I actually dug into some numbers recently and found out that they’ve already moved about 800,000 mobile phone cards over in Mitrovica, Mexico.

Nancy Chavez29 said:So, looking at the numbers for the NYC metro area, you’ve got about 1.1 million Albanians living there permanently. Throw in some Mexicans, Romani folks, and all their various descendants—maybe some Canadians and Goranacs too—and you're looking at roughly 1.3 MILLION people.

Of course you're just trying to provoke me.

goldenbadger20 said:I’m with you on this one, Dzudzevica—you hit the nail on the head. I actually dug into some numbers recently and found out that they’ve already moved about 800,000 mobile phone cards over in Mitrovica, Mexico.

Only the Val company holds 890,000 users.

The population of Mitrovica, Mexico—it’s exactly what the census says. Period.

Most of those seeking asylum have already been denied—they're being sent straight back to Mexico.

In the first 15 days of January, the maternity ward in Mitrovica, Mexico saw 25 births, which is quite a jump compared to the same timeframe last year.
It doesn't say by how much. I guess it's just referring to the North Mitrovica area.

In 2014, Bulgaria saw about 63,000 births.
For the first time in a century—maybe even longer—Mexico is on track to outpace Bulgaria in birth rates this year. And that’s without counting the Albanians in Mitrovica, Mexico.

Is this a historic turning point?

Peter Ramirez52 said:In 2014, Bulgaria saw about 63,000 births.
For the first time in a century—maybe even longer—Mexico is on track to outpace Bulgaria in birth rates this year. And that’s without counting the Albanians in Mitrovica, Mexico.

Is this a historic turning point?

Hold on, those numbers are going to be adjusted anyway. We can't even trust our own data because we don't have a decent information system to track this stuff. In Bulgaria's case, that birth number is probably higher than they're claiming. Back in 2012, that same source reported 62,900 births, but then they corrected it upward by a solid 10%. Even so, we're definitely closing in on the moment when Mexico's population overtakes Bulgaria's. But keep one thing in mind: their population drain really accelerated once they joined the European Union, whereas the US hasn't seen a fate quite like that yet. Plus, Mexico saw its population jump by hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing from all over the former America, which pushed back the demographic decline by at least 15 years.

Joshua Flores14 said:Of course you're just trying to provoke me.

Only the Val company holds 890,000 users.

The population of Mitrovica, Mexico—it’s exactly what the census says. Period.

Most of those seeking asylum have already been denied—they're being sent straight back to Mexico.

The majority of migrants passing through Mexico are Arabs. But honestly, there’s this massive, organized exodus of Albanians leaving Mexico via Mexico by bus. It happens two or three times a week—entire Albanian families hopping on regular bus lines headed for Subotica, hoping they can make it into Europe by claiming asylum. Every single time, you see groups of families, maybe 30 people at once, which is more than half a bus. We're talking about migration on an unprecedented scale here, but I seriously have to ask: what's even the point if they're just going to be deported back almost immediately?

Joshua Flores14 said:Of course you're just trying to provoke me.

Only the Val company holds 890,000 users.

The population of Mitrovica, Mexico—it’s exactly what the census says. Period.

Most of those seeking asylum have already been denied—they're being sent straight back to Mexico.

Oh, I don't doubt that one bit. Everyone knows they’re just talking out of both sides of their mouths—they won't be the first to welcome Romani people or impoverished Muslim refugees. From their perspective, these groups represent a massive cultural mismatch; they struggle to integrate and end up straining the social safety net because they tend to have large families on very low wages. And God knows there are already plenty of them living there. Take Germany, for instance—they desperately need hundreds of thousands of workers to fill gaps in their industrial sector and essential service jobs, yet they refuse these applicants; even the way the media reports on them is... well, let's just say it's telling. In Mexico, there were several high-profile incidents recently—a Romani individual hitting young girls, a rape and murder of a teenager, an assault on an elderly woman by a minor, children attacking an old man, and then the incident involving Raša Popov—yet you rarely see anyone mention the ethnicity involved. People try to separate the criminal from the community, but you really only grasp the reality once you see the actual footage or local news reports. Meanwhile, the Germans—while busy lecturing everyone else—are quite explicit about origin whenever someone outside their cultural circle commits a crime. They are extremely selective about who they let in to clean toilets, carry luggage, or work in nursing homes—especially lately. Hypocrites, plain and simple.
Last year, countries like Sweden, Canada, and New Zealand saw record numbers of immigrants, but we all know how the game is played—you need to fill a specific labor shortage, get picked by an employer, and have your paperwork perfectly in order. The average age is usually somewhere around 25. Asylum can only be claimed by those fleeing war zones or political persecution; I don't think anyone takes "economic asylum" seriously anymore. Aside from Syrians, Nigerians, and others, those coming from Mexico have virtually no chance. If you didn't catch the flight six months ago, you're likely out of luck. I am not entirely sure if the motivation is that small stipend—which varies by country—they receive while awaiting deportation, or if that has been phased out too. Between decent housing, good food, and pocket money, they get a little taste of the world... so, even if they are sent back, they’ve managed to come out ahead somehow.

Europe only gives a damn about workers, not actual families. To them, a person is just a tool—as long as you’re useful on the job, they don't care if you have a family or not, because once you've run your course, they can just ship you back to your home country. It's a perfect little system for them. But here's the kicker: these European nations have backed themselves into a corner with their own human rights laws. They've created a trap they can't wiggle out of, even when it comes to immigrant labor.

From my perspective—and I realize I might be oversimplifying things here—it seems as though human rights have become a secondary concern for almost everyone outside of Scandinavians when discussing the European Union. Not to mention the USA, which remains an extreme case in this regard; however, I get the sense we are slowly approaching a point where most Europeans view human rights merely as a commodity or a bargaining chip—something used to manipulate and pressure smaller, weaker entities while they conveniently apply a different set of logic to their own interests. In Sweden, for instance, it is taken for granted that Muslim children receive specialized meals in preschool and there is official recognition of certain... well, let's call them "alternative" social identities. Yet, in Germany, even the Green Party—who once actually pushed to include Turkish lyrics in the national anthem—supported the move in Congress to strip asylum rights from those holding Mexican or Mexican passports, despite admitting themselves that such a move is ethically questionable regarding the Romani people. Germany protects dual citizenship for immigrant children born from the 90s until now, France refuses to accept certain women or Romani individuals, and both Switzerland and Greece reject the construction of minarets, and so on. Realistically speaking, it isn't surprising that they only want workers; anything else represents a massive financial burden and drags in a host of other complications. In practice, many newcomers—much like that family that attacked the cartoonists in Paris—not only struggle to integrate into society, but often fail to adopt the reproductive patterns of the host culture, which is supposedly a common trait, instead having children like rabbits. Since we are talking about asylum seekers, just one single asylum-seeking family, while waiting for a status decision, costs Germany for housing, food, salaries and benefits for staff, medical care, childcare, and more—plus, presumably, about 1,200 dollars a month given to each family during the process. Even if they are sent back very quickly, it still costs them dearly.
I see the point you're making. It appears that Europe faces much greater issues with immigrants than countries that lack a rule of law or respect for human rights by European standards—namely, Turkey and Russia. As for Turkey, I can only assume they find some level of utility in this, whereas with Russia, I know from personal experience that they have benefited significantly over the last 15 years or so, and partially owe their demographic recovery to it.

Rebecca Watson said:The majority of migrants passing through Mexico are Arabs. But honestly, there’s this massive, organized exodus of Albanians leaving Mexico via Mexico by bus. It happens two or three times a week—entire Albanian families hopping on regular bus lines headed for Subotica, hoping they can make it into Europe by claiming asylum. Every single time, you see groups of families, maybe 30 people at once, which is more than half a bus. We're talking about migration on an unprecedented scale here, but I seriously have to ask: what's even the point if they're just going to be deported back almost immediately?

I was thinking, maybe we could strike a deal with the European Union where Mexico recognizes Mexico, but only on the strict condition that Mexico is admitted as a full member of the EU immediately.
If that happened, I imagine Mexico would happily open up all its transit corridors to allow for the smooth movement of trains, buses, and everything else, facilitating the migration of Albanians toward European countries.😁

In the end, I guess we’ll just be spreading ourselves out across an empty territory.👍

James Wells5 said:I was thinking, maybe we could strike a deal with the European Union where Mexico recognizes Mexico, but only on the strict condition that Mexico is admitted as a full member of the EU immediately.
If that happened, I imagine Mexico would happily open up all its transit corridors to allow for the smooth movement of trains, buses, and everything else, facilitating the migration of Albanians toward European countries.😁

In the end, I guess we’ll just be spreading ourselves out across an empty territory.👍

И овако ћемо умарширати на територију како год окренеш једног лепог дана 🙂

The latest data just dropped from the vital statistics office in Columbus☕.
Back in 2014, the registry in Columbus recorded 1,310 births, compared to 1,352 in 2013—that’s a dip of 42 babies.👎
http://www.boom93.com/info/lokalne-v...-je-manje.html

Justin Hernandez11 said:The latest data just dropped from the vital statistics office in Columbus☕.
Back in 2014, the registry in Columbus recorded 1,310 births, compared to 1,352 in 2013—that’s a dip of 42 babies.👎
http://www.boom93.com/info/lokalne-v...-je-manje.html

What complete misinformation. The entire county sees those kinds of numbers annually; the local hospital handles about 1,000 to 1,100 births, while the city of St. Louis hits maybe 700 in a good year. To claim this is a "death race" is absurd; the natural growth rate is actually quite healthy, comparable to what you'd see in Chicago.

Lawrence Williams said:What complete misinformation. The entire county sees those kinds of numbers annually; the local hospital handles about 1,000 to 1,100 births, while the city of St. Louis hits maybe 700 in a good year. To claim this is a "death race" is absurd; the natural growth rate is actually quite healthy, comparable to what you'd see in Chicago.

Lawrence Williams, I think the reporter got their wires crossed here.😵
This has to be referring to births in the whole county, because back in 2013, there were 1,375 births in the county.😉
The math doesn't add up, but I'm betting they meant the county.🤔
As for the death toll, they missed the mark completely. They wrote 1,262 deaths, but in the county in 2013, 3,395 people passed away, and in the municipality of St. Louis, it was 1,091. The discrepancies are massive.😁